UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #17

[Blonderabbit]

Drugs - there’s no obvious sign of Claudia involved in dealing. In fact has any of the four been arrested for drug related offences, EVErR? Even the rouges gallery has not as far as I’m aware has any convictions for drug related offences. So where does the dealing idea come from? It’s not to say it wasn’t going on. Most pubs have dealers - nags was probably no exception. Claudia killed over a drugs related matter? Whilst I don’t think so, it all seems pre planned to me.

 

[Woodburnbay]

Nooo I completely disagree. The main evidence against the 4 is to do with their mobile phones and how they moved within the “golden hours” Claudias phone was only basic but it did have Bluetooth and I think in a very crude way it could be seen on other more advanced handsets - linking via Bluetooth.. back in 2009 Bluetooth had a limited range - perhaps 10feet. How do you explain your phone linking h to a phone of a person who hasn’t turned up to work? Or linking to your phone as it’s turned off?

I have not seen any comments in MSM or from police where they refer to them having any main evidence against the 4 re their mobile phones-Please can you share this @Blonderabbit for the benefit of me and others.

Are you asking me to explain a phone linking to a phone of a person who hasn't turned up for work?-Im not technically qualified to do this and did not raise this either.

 

[Woodburnbay]

if your theory is. correct, it would have taken the best police protection in the world to make them spill the beans

I agree and that is why they remain silent

 

[Woodburnbay]

I dont really. buy the idea of the. Haworth lot protecting Claudia...theyd. have had. to have had good forewarning that something was going to. happen and, as they were. known as her friends, I don't think they'd have been told.

I only. know York as a tourist, but does anyone know if there would be rival drug dealing in a comb and Hew worth...just wondering. if. Claudia was. fraternising with the enemy

She clearly said something on the pre weekend night when she was last reported to fraternise with her friends in the Nags Head.
Was she seeing someone new who was from across the county lines?

 

[Woodburnbay]

Drugs - there’s no obvious sign of Claudia involved in dealing. In fact has any of the four been arrested for drug related offences, EVErR? Even the rouges gallery has not as far as I’m aware has any convictions for drug related offences. So where does the dealing idea come from? It’s not to say it wasn’t going on. Most pubs have dealers - nags was probably no exception. Claudia killed over a drugs related matter? Whilst I don’t think so, it all seems pre planned to me.

Many people involved in drugs have NEVER been caught to this day even though LE know who they are.

 

[cortina]

I agree and that is why they remain silent

I honestly dont know who was responsible for her. death...the motivation...but whatever the reason, this is why they're remaining. silent...I suspect either because they fear retribution if they spill the beans or because they were directly involved..but I dont think we know which

 

[cortina]

Drugs - there’s no obvious sign of Claudia involved in dealing. In fact has any of the four been arrested for drug related offences, EVErR? Even the rouges gallery has not as far as I’m aware has any convictions for drug related offences. So where does the dealing idea come from? It’s not to say it wasn’t going on. Most pubs have dealers - nags was probably no exception. Claudia killed over a drugs related matter? Whilst I don’t think so, it all seems pre planned to me.

I dont. think any poster has specifically said anyone was dealing in drugs, but. we do know that a good deal of dealing was going. on in this area, of York, which is one of the main supply points in Britain so, in view of the apparent sophistication of. this crime, I think its fair for one theory to be that drug dealing. was involved...either on a personal level..ie. Claudia had. a romantic engagement with a dealer...or on the level. that relates to. drug dealing itself....theyre just 2 theories that have been explored

 

[Blonderabbit]

I have not seen any comments in MSM or from police where they refer to them having any main evidence against the 4 re their mobile phones-Please can you share this @Blonderabbit for the benefit of me and others.

Are you asking me to explain a phone linking to a phone of a person who hasn't turned up for work?-Im not technically qualified to do this and did not raise this either.

I’m not asking you to explain anything, I think once again you have misunderstood my post. It is in MSM - I suggest you do your own research.

 

[cortina]

I dont. think any poster has specifically said anyone was dealing in drugs, but. we do know that a good deal of dealing was going. on in this area, of York, which is one of the main supply points in Britain so, in view of the apparent sophistication of. this crime, I think its fair for one theory to be that drug dealing. was involved...either on a personal level..ie. Claudia had. a romantic engagement with a dealer...or on the level. that relates to. drug dealing itself....theyre just 2 theories that have been explored

we also know from interviews with Claudius. sister that she was somewhat naive and had a penchant. for bad boys

 

[Blonderabbit]

we also know from interviews with Claudius. sister that she was somewhat naive and had a penchant. for bad boys

From what I have read and various interviews etc, She seemed to be a good time girl, a star that shone brightly for a short time. She liked a drink and a good time, she naively was loose with info in drink and then when sobering hugely regretted what she remembered saying. Knowing what she was like, in my opinion it was reckless to burden her with indiscretions - which perhaps led to her demise. If so those responsible should be ashamed ! (This is only my opinion)

 

[cortina]

From what I have read and various interviews etc, She seemed to be a good time girl, a star that shone brightly for a short time. She liked a drink and a good time, she naively was loose with info in drink and then when sobering hugely regretted what she remembered saying. Knowing what she was like, in my opinion it was reckless to burden her with indiscretions - which perhaps led to her demise. If so those responsible should be ashamed ! (This is only my opinion)

this sounds like one of the strongest possible. motives to me....it would be like a. child hearing or seeing or being involved in something...she may have found a new friend or boyfriend. and someone was afraid shed blurt. something out, or shed already said something or had an argument with. someone and threatened to tell everyone

 

[Woodburnbay]

I’m not asking you to explain anything, I think once again you have misunderstood my post. It is in MSM - I suggest you do your own research.

I have done mountains of my own research @Blonderabbit and none that shows police were aware of the arrested because of phone activity.
I was asking you to explain your source as it may be helpful for others.
Do you have a source that you could share as im sure we would all like to be aware of this?

What you are saying is actually new evidence and does not appear to have been aired thus far.

However if it is just speculation then say so as that is equally fine.

You did ask me for an explanation as follows:

"How do you explain your phone linking h to a phone of a person who hasn’t turned up to work? Or linking to your phone as it’s turned off?" SIC

 

[cortina]

I know the cynical among us...probably including me...will say that the police can fix anything they want.....but if the police sent a load of dross to the cps, rather than just rejecting it, would they hold the police to account or publicise it...im not talking about. a reasonable. file. that stopped. just short of being strong enough to make it to court.

I dont know if the potential. defendants solicitor could make a fuss, but if their clients were afraid of a drugs gang, they might not wish to

 

[Woodburnbay]

I know the cynical among us...probably including me...will say that the police can fix anything they want.....but if the police sent a load of dross to the cps, rather than just rejecting it, would they hold the police to account or publicise it...im not talking about. a reasonable. file. that stopped. just short of being strong enough to make it to court.

I dont know if the potential. defendants solicitor could make a fuss, but if their clients were afraid of a drugs gang, they might not wish to

Its possible that it wasn't the CPS who rejected the prosecution but the police may have been told that there were bigger things at stake.

 

[cortina]

Its possible that it wasn't the CPS who rejected the prosecution but the police may have been told that there were bigger things at stake.

thanks

 

[cortina]

I thought id. read somewhere that the cps had turned the case down, but I might not be remembering properly or it. might. not be true

 

[Thelastleg]

I thought id. read somewhere that the cps had turned the case down, but I might not be remembering properly or it. might. not be true

Yes you did read that. However even though it was reported on MSM there is no guarantee it was the truth.

 

[Blonderabbit]

I have done mountains of my own research @Blonderabbit and none that shows police were aware of the arrested because of phone activity.
I was asking you to explain your source as it may be helpful for others.
Do you have a source that you could share as im sure we would all like to be aware of this?

What you are saying is actually new evidence and does not appear to have been aired thus far.

However if it is just speculation then say so as that is equally fine.

You did ask me for an explanation as follows:

"How do you explain your phone linking h to a phone of a person who hasn’t turned up to work? Or linking to your phone as it’s turned off?" SIC

I am not asking you personally. I am illustrating if you were a suspected perp and in the hot seat - how would “you” (if you were the perp) explain Claudia phone connecting to your phone? Given it’s range is only 10feetish.

Yeah I’d guess you’d say no comment (in my opinion) it’s a tough one then, no body, no scene, no clear motive - she may not even be dead - yes we all know she most likely is, however -it’s a dead end. Unless someone comes forward and owns up - I don’t think it will ever be solved. What I do know is - it’s apparent that there are people who do know enough to get the ball rolling on social media. Will they be brave enough? Who knows!

 

[cortina]

Yes you did read that. However even though it was reported on MSM there is no guarantee it was the truth.

thanks

 

[Popejohn3]

Is Blonderabbit divulging something he’s known for a long time , now for the first time !?
Because that is how I read it some work colleague’s phone connected to Claudia’s that night or morning !?