UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #17

[Pricklykitty]

Quoting the above Daily mail link the police say the cig butt found in her car could be that of her killer !
Now one has to assume it ( dna) did not match any of the four ?

It actually says
Detectives believe DNA evidence from a cigarette in Claudia's car may help catch her killer
Thats not the same thing.
In moo dna on the butt could link someone to claudia who has denied knowing her, being in her car etc But since the car was in the garage at the time she disappeared, it would be difficult to prove the person in the car was also the killer weeks later. I think police made a bit of a deal about that as they hoped it would bring someone forward who had previously either not come forward or denied their connection to claudia.

 

[Popejohn3]

It actually says
Detectives believe DNA evidence from a cigarette in Claudia's car may help catch her killer
Thats not the same thing.
In moo dna on the butt could link someone to claudia who has denied knowing her, being in her car etc But since the car was in the garage at the time she disappeared, it would be difficult to prove the person in the car was also the killer weeks later. I think police made a bit of a deal about that as they hoped it would bring someone forward who had previously either not come forward or denied their connection to claudia.

Yes that’s a fair assessment!
My guess would be that dna belongs to the mystery boyfriend and not necessarily the killer

 

[Popejohn3]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/search-claudia-lawrence-intensifies-amid-5833225.amp

Any update on the scruffy man with a spade ?

 

[Blonderabbit]

Just running back over the thread, looking at DR & SR . For anyone who’s joined in the last two years/or simply wants a refresh - take a look at this UK - UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

 

[Popejohn3]

Just running back over the thread, looking at DR & SR . For anyone who’s joined in the last two years/or simply wants a refresh - take a look at this UK - UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

Sorry but when I click on it takes you back months on WS

 

[Blonderabbit]

Sorry but when I click on it takes you back months on WS

Yes it’s supposed to, here are a number of Sleuths - looking at what’s going on at 9.01pm, , the likely motivations behind CLs dissapearance, and who’s involved

 

[Woodburnbay]

Just running back over the thread, looking at DR & SR . For anyone who’s joined in the last two years/or simply wants a refresh - take a look at this UK - UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

Thanks @Blonderabbit This post from back then is very interesting. The mention of the Address Eboraccum Way, is that of a well known partner or PR-Non other than JK:

Please see attached screenshot-Source WS.

 

[Blonderabbit]

Are the working together and he doesn't want to be seen with him together. Is one going to her front door and the other hanging back?

I don’t think so, rather my opinion is Alleywayman knows Sandy Mac and doesn’t want to be seen by him as he could be a potential witness, I feel it’s premeditated so at that point alleywayman is checking the coast is clear, happens to see Sandy Mac in the process. If you look at the build of DR & SR - DR isn’t particularly light on his feet or athletic where as SR is - the way he pauses with his feet together and his gait indicates. It can only be SR in my opinion

 

[Blonderabbit]

Yes great minds my friend!

 

[Blonderabbit]

Take a look at posts by Samuel66 - well thought through, researched posts.

 

[Pricklykitty]

Thanks @Blonderabbit This post from back then is very interesting. The mention of the Address Eboraccum Way, is that of a well known partner or PR-Non other than JK:

Please see attached screenshot-Source WS.

As well as Eboracum way coming up so does Carter Ave.
Im going to go ahead and assume I can't link to companies house or electoral information so I'll try to explain, but do have the info if it turns out I can share it.

Back on thread 2 there is an address given for DR as Hempland ave. Also registered at this address is a mrs G*** R***, born sep 1966. According to companies house this GR runs a property business from Hempland ave.
In researching DR I looked into his business YO1 UPVC Solutions, which shows his business partner is a mrs G*** J*** R***, born sep 1966. This mrs GJR is registered as living at Carter Ave.

It seems like mrs GR sometimes uses her middle name for official purposes and sometimes doesn't. There are more personal connections between GRR and DR but probably not that relevant so I'll leave that for people to research if interested.

Anyway just thought I'd mention another coincidence to samuel66 post.

 

[Popejohn3]

You see this is one of the main points I put out over the years ! If we are so interested in drug running / money laundering one can easily understand that POSSIBLEY some of the 100 + police officers ( initial days ) were more interested in their own day to day line of work !
Hence no comment no comment !

 

[Blonderabbit]

Cr

As well as Eboracum way coming up so does Carter Ave.
Im going to go ahead and assume I can't link to companies house or electoral information so I'll try to explain, but do have the info if it turns out I can share it.

Back on thread 2 there is an address given for DR as Hempland ave. Also registered at this address is a mrs G*** R***, born sep 1966. According to companies house this GR runs a property business from Hempland ave.
In researching DR I looked into his business YO1 UPVC Solutions, which shows his business partner is a mrs G*** J*** R***, born sep 1966. This mrs GJR is registered as living at Carter Ave.

It seems like mrs GR sometimes uses her middle name for official purposes and sometimes doesn't. There are more personal connections between GRR and DR but probably not that relevant so I'll leave that for people to research if interested.

Anyway just thought I'd mention another coincidence to samuel66 post.
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Cracking post Pk!

 

[Blonderabbit]

Pk have you looked at DR's address on google earth for the suv? in 2009 be nice to have a paper trail to that vehicle

 

[Pricklykitty]

Pk have you looked at DR's address on google earth for the suv? in 2009 be nice to have a paper trail to that vehicle

I have. No records for 2009, in 2008 there is this blue car at the hempland address

18 Hempland Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/yQXmXohosdJanTf76

Nothing at Carter Ave till later years. A little red van similar to one discussed on this forum previously does appear there in 2015....

29 Carter Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/Qz23iphtZxR2zaHPA

The links take you to the nearest points for good viewing of the changing vehicles (and doors!) Of the relevant addresses over the years, rather than the poi door numbers

 

[Woodburnbay]

I have. No records for 2009, in 2008 there is this blue car at the hempland address
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18 Hempland Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/yQXmXohosdJanTf76

Nothing at Carter Ave till later years. A little red van similar to one discussed on this forum previously does appear there in 2015....
View attachment 367187
29 Carter Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/Qz23iphtZxR2zaHPA

The links take you to the nearest points for good viewing of the changing vehicles (and doors!) Of the relevant addresses over the years, rather than the poi door numbers

I believe that the White van at Hempland is used by DR for his Double Glazing business.

 

[Blonderabbit]

I have. No records for 2009, in 2008 there is this blue car at the hempland address
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18 Hempland Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/yQXmXohosdJanTf76

Nothing at Carter Ave till later years. A little red van similar to one discussed on this forum previously does appear there in 2015....
View attachment 367187
29 Carter Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/Qz23iphtZxR2zaHPA

The links take you to the nearest points for good viewing of the changing vehicles (and doors!) Of the relevant addresses over the years, rather than the poi door numbers

I had a look at his current business address - google can be a bit hit and miss so I'm wondering if it's an adjacent property as the one it lands on could make a very nice home address

 

[Blonderabbit]

I believe that the White van at Hempland is used by DR for his Double Glazing business.

I believe that the White van at Hempland is used by DR for his Double Glazing business.

it seems google earth has blocked access to poi 's properties.

 

[Pricklykitty]

it seems google earth has blocked access to poi 's properties.

It is very hit and miss around some of their properties, though not all.

 

[Blonderabbit]

The car in front of the suv - does anyone know what make and model of car it is? And who may own it? Does it appear anywhere else in Claudias disappearance ?