UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #19

[Blonderabbit]

You assume JK has a conscience. If she had she wouldn't be living opposite Claudia's house with PR. That in itself is a message to the community.

Sorry I missed your question re motive - well initially I thought it was likely some kind of financial indiscretion - so perhaps she had been let into some kind of confidence and then demonstrated that she couldn’t be trusted when drunk. However and this is something I can only offer as my opinion as I cannot support it with any evidence - My view currently is its drug related.

 

[Blonderabbit]

You assume JK has a conscience. If she had she wouldn't be living opposite Claudia's house with PR. That in itself is a message to the community.

Sorry I missed your question re motive - well initially I thought it was likely some kind of financial indiscretion - so perhaps she had been let into some kind of confidence and then demonstrated that she couldn’t be trusted when drunk. However and this is something I can only offer as my opinion as I cannot support it with any evidence - My view currently is its drug related.

 

[Ergs]

48 has a strange layout in comparison to 46. How the roof space is shared or overlaps concerns me.

It’s called a flying free hold. Must have been difficult for cl to get a mortgage on that property - talking from experience. Was the loft space separated between the properties - again from experience ……. I feel this property is very important

 

[Blonderabbit]

Sorry guys but I am going to be devil's advocate here. I have looked at the stills and footage numerous times, with the best resolution on my laptop. If we cannot satisfactorily identify a make of car, I don't see how we can be sure we are seeing a body. Once you have decided it is a body your brain takes over and that is all you see. For me it is still too obscure and blurry to define what it is, could be just a reflection.

I agree with you however, how about being open minded and thinking it maybe a body but it may not and then look to prove it is or isn’t. The front car is difficult - though the Ranger is clear - the body is alongside the ranger - I cannot see how a wall would reflect such a reflection

 

[Blonderabbit]

I’ve tweaked the nine frame cctv video a bit (rotated and brightened slightly) and posted it to youtube:

ETA: if you’re into “ghost” reflections - look above the car in front.

Can I ask what you see in this?

 

[tulip182]

It’s called a flying free hold. Must have been difficult for cl to get a mortgage on that property - talking from experience. Was the loft space separated between the properties - again from experience ……. I feel this property is very important

Sometimes with terraced houses the loft space is shared by several properties. I noted this when viewing a terraced house of a similar age. I discovered when looking at planning permissions that a property further down the same road had got permission to close theirs off.
I wonder if it was the same on Heworth Road. I assume (and hope) this was investigated at the time though.

 

[Popejohn3]

You assume JK has a conscience. If she had she wouldn't be living opposite Claudia's house with PR. That in itself is a message to the community.

Yes probably saying ‘I’ve done nothing wrong why should I hide ‘

 

[leuraman]

I agree with you however, how about being open minded and thinking it maybe a body but it may not and then look to prove it is or isn’t. The front car is difficult - though the Ranger is clear - the body is alongside the ranger - I cannot see how a wall would reflect such a reflection

I'm open to being convinced, just not convinced yet. Still doing what I can to add to the pool of knowledge. Keep up the good work.

 

[Prince Parade]

You assume JK has a conscience. If she had she wouldn't be living opposite Claudia's house with PR. That in itself is a message to the community.

I like your thinking here. Although if they had moved away would that in itself be some admission of guilt which is why they have stayed put? A double bluff as they say. I'm not sure I assume JK has a conscience, but the speech patterns which Blonderabbit refers to coupled with my intuition regarding a certain coldness behind eyes indicates something.
I think there is something she is not letting on and whether she has a conscience or not I believe any closely guarded secret is slowly taking its toll.
I mean, I know we cannot make assumptions on looks alone but if you met any of CL so called close friends would you believe them to be trustworthy?

 

[Prince Parade]

A High SUV pulling up within feet of my window - would certainly cause me to look out - unless I was aware/in on it and knew why it was there. Not even double glazing would stop me. Just saying.

You might look out, but would you keep watch?

 

[Prince Parade]

Sorry I missed your question re motive - well initially I thought it was likely some kind of financial indiscretion - so perhaps she had been let into some kind of confidence and then demonstrated that she couldn’t be trusted when drunk. However and this is something I can only offer as my opinion as I cannot support it with any evidence - My view currently is its drug related.

Blonderabbit, interesting. What is your theory from start to finish of what happened to CL?

 

[Ergs]

You might look out, but would you keep watch?

Very true ….. but high risk

 

[shadwell]

Can I ask what you see in this?

The car looks weird to me - seems to change shape as it passes. Trailer on the back or DIY pickup conversion?

I am also now seeing your hi-vis trouser figure, but also what might be a reflection or shadow of a figure above the car - though I admit it could equally be a combination of a bedroom window and muck on the bus windscreen.

 

[Miss Elizabeth]

Sorry I missed your question re motive - well initially I thought it was likely some kind of financial indiscretion - so perhaps she had been let into some kind of confidence and then demonstrated that she couldn’t be trusted when drunk. However and this is something I can only offer as my opinion as I cannot support it with any evidence - My view currently is its drug related.

I agree with you - drug related. Many years ago I posted a rather long dissertation, after much consideration, on why I thought this, based on police activity at NH, money, drunkenness, indiscretion - various things. However this was shot down fairly quickly.

Nothing has changed my mind in the intervening years really. There's much skullduggery, as I also believe one or more people involved in Claudia's disappearance post regularly in this thread.

IMO
~E

Edited for clarity.

 

[BryterLayter]

48 has a strange layout in comparison to 46. How the roof space is shared or overlaps concerns me.

They searched 2 doors down so must have done next door Neighbour of missing chef Claudia Lawrence hits out at police search

 

[Woodburnbay]

I was all into your theory... esp when I saw the address had a DARK GREY DOOR back in AUG 2008 and had become a BLUE door in OCT 2009. It would be a great way of getting rid of any DNA that hit the door (by replacing the door). I also saw a PILE OF LEAVES that may be giving you dead-body-vibes. Nice spot though. Not dismissed it... I mean you could hide a body in those leaves 50/50.
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But would you have leaves in March ??? I doubt it.

 

[Woodburnbay]

Yes he i

Found this Planning Application from Transcore (Peter Ruane) regarding land at back of Nags Head. It was approved but don't know if building has started.

s trying to buy up the whole area for some reason.

 

[Woodburnbay]

… whereas to my eye what you are describing is positioned as shown below - or would be were it not in a place obscured by the nearside wing of the Ranger.

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As JK said in the media "I hope that she was gone before she hit the ground" She definitely knows something so please no one offer CL friends any further defence.

 

[Woodburnbay]

This look

This is all I can see when looking at the stills. It must be my mind playing tricks.

s like one person lying in wait and another stooped down outside of CL doorway.

 

[susie sixpence]

You think the origins which correlate with the motive stem from Friday 13th at the NH? Was this the last day CL was in the NH and was also drunk? What do you beleive the motive is?

I think its best to try and think simply when looking at all this. Of course my aforementioned theory could be wrong, but with alleyway man initially surveying the area/house then confirming to the perpetrators CL was at home i highly suspect the perpetrators agreed to go to her house at 9pm and overpower her. The SUV had been used as its a large vehicle with a flatbed and would easily move her body (apologies for being so graphic).

At 9pm on a midweek dark March evening most people are at home watching tv etc. As you say Blonderabbit any noise outside would of been a put down to regular activity at the pub a few doors down. The perpetrators would be brazen enough to carry this out, afterall they have been brazen enough in police interviews.
Is there any other footage which could trace where the SUV went?

I agree with you re JK and to a degree SC. Aside from the speech patterns my intuition tells me their eyes say it all especially JK. My gut says there is a lack of sincerity a certain coldness, a void. I think they know more than what they let on, and if they do what a heavy burden to carry. Also telling is how much they've aged - all the stress and worry perhaps?

Ooh another 'new member' nice to see that we are attracting some different people, if you 'beleive' that.