UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #19

  • #501
The bus passed the other side at 19.52 and 20.52 (843) Scarborough to Leeds. The bus passed near Claudia's house at 20.12, 20.32 and 21.32 (843) Leeds to Scarborough. It looks like the bus was late or the bus CCTV time was inaccurate.

What time did the 840 Leeds-Whitby pass back then?
 
  • #502
Sleuthing on individuals who have not been officially named as a POI/suspect is absolutely not allowed.

Thread is closed for review.
 
  • #503
ADMIN NOTE:

This discussion was only reopened after Peter Lawrence died so that members could express their sentiments in that regard.

Unfortunately, once again the discussion has devolved into bickering and non-productive debating, naming and sleuthing of individuals who have not been named by LE to be a POI or suspect, and other violations of TOS.

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The Media, Maps & Timeline *NO DISCUSSION* thread will remain open for any new MSM.

The discussion thread will remain closed until there is new MSM or information from LE.
 
  • #504
We will reopen this thread but if it evolves into the bickering like before we will have to close it
 
  • #505
We will reopen this thread but if it evolves into the bickering like before we will have to close it
Thanks very much Tricia
 
  • #506
Thank you Tricia and Sillybilly!
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March 2 2025
''A woman has claimed her abusive ex-partner might have been involved in the disappearance of missing York chef Claudia Lawrence.

The man, whose identity is unknown, supposedly admitted knowing what happened to the 34-year-old who vanished without a trace from her home in the Heworth area of York on March 18, 2009. ''

''Lucy told the podcast she made the shocking revelation after being shown the CCTV by her niece.

'I had a look at it and I thought "Oh my God that's him walking",' she said.

'That's how he walked. It's like a proper step. Whereas I like shuffle a bit more, he's got a slight stoop. That's how he would stop exactly. He's got grey hair as well.''
 
  • #507
We will reopen this thread but if it evolves into the bickering like before we will have to close it
Thanks Tricia
 
  • #508
Thank you Tricia and Sillybilly!
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March 2 2025
''A woman has claimed her abusive ex-partner might have been involved in the disappearance of missing York chef Claudia Lawrence.

The man, whose identity is unknown, supposedly admitted knowing what happened to the 34-year-old who vanished without a trace from her home in the Heworth area of York on March 18, 2009. ''

''Lucy told the podcast she made the shocking revelation after being shown the CCTV by her niece.

'I had a look at it and I thought "Oh my God that's him walking",' she said.

'That's how he walked. It's like a proper step. Whereas I like shuffle a bit more, he's got a slight stoop. That's how he would stop exactly. He's got grey hair as well.''
 
  • #509
Thank you Tricia and Sillybilly!
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March 2 2025
''A woman has claimed her abusive ex-partner might have been involved in the disappearance of missing York chef Claudia Lawrence.

The man, whose identity is unknown, supposedly admitted knowing what happened to the 34-year-old who vanished without a trace from her home in the Heworth area of York on March 18, 2009. ''

''Lucy told the podcast she made the shocking revelation after being shown the CCTV by her niece.

'I had a look at it and I thought "Oh my God that's him walking",' she said.

'That's how he walked. It's like a proper step. Whereas I like shuffle a bit more, he's got a slight stoop. That's how he would stop exactly. He's got grey hair as well.''
Having read this, I'm struggling to the find the correct Podcast the Daily Mail references. There is one from 2024. What am I missing?
 
  • #510
LE forensicated CL's house and reportedly found nothing. At some point she obviously must have left the house. Due to the fact that she no longer responded to text messages after 9pm and that it is reported she was normally quick to do so my belief is that she was abducted around 9pm on that evening. But in which direction did she leave her house? As there is a main road at the front of her house and she wasn't seen to leave it by this way my guess is she left by the rear exit. From there? As she was unspotted by the CCTV coverage of the side road it would appear she didn't leave by this route. So did she head to the pub? Apparently she wasn't seen there that evening so presumably not. My guess is that she was abducted out the back of her house across the alleyway into another property and whatever happened occurred there or more likely she was then taken out the front of the other property to some other place where whatever occurred happened. I would be interested to know what would be the potential for her being spotted in terms of CCTV coverage and traffic if she was indeed further abducted out the front of this potential other property?
 
  • #511
Having read this, I'm struggling to the find the correct Podcast the Daily Mail references. There is one from 2024. What am I missing?
'Ep. 9
Monday, February 24, 2025
Could a tip off from a listener bring the police back to Claudia’s home? Tom and Joan investigate a new potential witness.'
 
  • #512
'Ep. 9
Monday, February 24, 2025
Could a tip off from a listener bring the police back to Claudia’s home? Tom and Joan investigate a new potential witness.'
Thank you. I couldn't find it.
 
  • #513
Thank you Tricia and Sillybilly!
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March 2 2025
''A woman has claimed her abusive ex-partner might have been involved in the disappearance of missing York chef Claudia Lawrence.

The man, whose identity is unknown, supposedly admitted knowing what happened to the 34-year-old who vanished without a trace from her home in the Heworth area of York on March 18, 2009. ''

''Lucy told the podcast she made the shocking revelation after being shown the CCTV by her niece.

'I had a look at it and I thought "Oh my God that's him walking",' she said.

'That's how he walked. It's like a proper step. Whereas I like shuffle a bit more, he's got a slight stoop. That's how he would stop exactly. He's got grey hair as well.''
wow thanks for the update. I am highly skeptical of that ID from the CCTV, but you never know for sure.
 
  • #514
Is the general feeling still that the police basically know who did it? But that they are unable to get enough to charge anyone?

From what I have followed with this case for a few years now that basically seems to be the most popular thoery I have seen get pushed.

Also I have been to York a few times in general seems to be what the local theory is.
 
  • #515
I’ve just read a lot of previous threads on this case and refreshed my memory..
what you have said would seem to be true. Or very likely. I’d guess that anyone who could give the police what they need is scared to do so.
 
  • #516
Is the general feeling still that the police basically know who did it? But that they are unable to get enough to charge anyone?

From what I have followed with this case for a few years now that basically seems to be the most popular theory I have seen get pushed.

Also I have been to York a few times in general seems to be what the local theory is.
Not sure whether they know who did it but I think they are confident there are plenty of people who have relevant information but either are too scared to impart it or are associated with the events in some way.
 
  • #517
'Ep. 9
Monday, February 24, 2025
Could a tip off from a listener bring the police back to Claudia’s home? Tom and Joan investigate a new potential witness.'
Thanks, didn't know there was a new episode out. Listened to the rest last year. I found episode 5 which centres mainly around her father quite disturbing. There's a lot of stuff in that episode and references to other things they decided not to include because they couldn't verify them. Not sure what others think but I felt there was a strong undercurrent to that particular episode where they were pushing it as far as they could and hinting at something without saying it. It covered a lot of ground and areas but I still felt there was something else they were hinting at. Certainly Claudia's friend's response when simply asked what Peter was like was very odd.
 
  • #518
Thanks, didn't know there was a new episode out. Listened to the rest last year. I found episode 5 which centres mainly around her father quite disturbing. There's a lot of stuff in that episode and references to other things they decided not to include because they couldn't verify them. Not sure what others think but I felt there was a strong undercurrent to that particular episode where they were pushing it as far as they could and hinting at something without saying it. It covered a lot of ground and areas but I still felt there was something else they were hinting at. Certainly Claudia's friend's response when simply asked what Peter was like was very odd.
That is the only episode I listened to and I decided after that, not to listen to further episodes. The claims made against PL by JL were untrue and could easily have been verified as untrue by the 'journalist'.
 
  • #519
I think we are going round in circles .
All these things get brought out again and again because the police never seem to come back to the informant denying or confirming what they’ve done with the info !
Give you one personal example : police interviewed me 3 years after CL disappeared.
Then about 3 weeks later I ring one of the officers re update and get told
my info is still relevant .
And I think I’m luckier than most … got some sort of a response .
I’ve come to the conclusion that it is a hopeless case until someone stands up saying they’ve killed her or partner repeating what they actually know and not hearsay !
 
  • #520
I think we are going round in circles .
All these things get brought out again and again because the police never seem to come back to the informant denying or confirming what they’ve done with the info !
Give you one personal example : police interviewed me 3 years after CL disappeared.
Then about 3 weeks later I ring one of the officers re update and get told
my info is still relevant .
And I think I’m luckier than most … got some sort of a response .
I’ve come to the conclusion that it is a hopeless case until someone stands up saying they’ve killed her or partner repeating what they actually know and not hearsay !
Sorry missed a bit
I meant to say I ring one of the officers re update and get told ‘that line of enquiry is now closed ‘
Then years later ( encouraged by a WS member) I recontact cold case with more or less the same information and subsequently get told yes my info is still relevant!
 

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