UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #6

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What date was this bus captured?
July 2017, coming out of Fourth Avenue from the west, destination "University - Campus East", which is another strange coincidence because the BBC write-up on the 10th anniversary of the poor girls disappearance which aroused my interest in the case, states that she worked at Goodricke College, which is on the east campus, although the map they gave for her route to work gives her destination as around the students union hall. I need to find some time to have a look at this route on virtual reality and see if there's any difference.
 
I understand her car was in the garage for repair .. was this the first day since her car was in the garage for repair that she was walking to work
I don't really want to contradict other people who probably know a lot more than I do about this case but I have checked YOU TUBE videos and other written material and all I can come up with is that she was without her car for "a few days". Of course I may be wrong.
 
I don't really want to contradict other people who probably know a lot more than I do about this case but I have checked YOU TUBE videos and other written material and all I can come up with is that she was without her car for "a few days". Of course I may be wrong.
You’re not wrong remembering reading this I read that too but it’s wrong I believe.She was without her car for 2/3 weeks
 
I'm not sure the Costcutter cctv covered the road, just the pavement area.

I’m sure the police operate these lamppost cameras that have been in operation for many years sole purpose of which to catch untaxed cars and I’m guessing this is how and why police have even been able to search more than 1000 cars![/QUOTE]

Possibly but I was answering the question asked by @keep-it-real .
 
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July 2017, coming out of Fourth Avenue from the west, destination "University - Campus East", which is another strange coincidence because the BBC write-up on the 10th anniversary of the poor girls disappearance which aroused my interest in the case, states that she worked at Goodricke College, which is on the east campus, although the map they gave for her route to work gives her destination as around the students union hall. I need to find some time to have a look at this route on virtual reality and see if there's any difference.

University of York - Wikipedia
If you look on Wiki, Campus East didn't officially open until Oct 2009. Goodricke was an old college located in a different part of the university campus (what is now known as Campus West) but was moved to Campus East in Oct 2009. In fact this led to speculation about potential burial sites because of the extensive ground works taking place on campus, and at least 3 of the arrested POIs being connected to the university.

It can be confusing looking at aerial google maps of the university as the layout has changed considerably since 2009. It is best to look for Roger Kirk Cafe when plotting her route to work, as this hasn't moved .
 
University of York - Wikipedia
If you look on Wiki, Campus East didn't officially open until Oct 2009. Goodricke was an old college located in a different part of the university campus (what is now known as Campus West) but was moved to Campus East in Oct 2009. In fact this led to speculation about potential burial sites because of the extensive ground works taking place on campus, and at least 3 of the arrested POIs being connected to the university.

It can be confusing looking at aerial google maps of the university as the layout has changed considerably since 2009. It is best to look for Roger Kirk Cafe when plotting her route to work, as this hasn't moved .
Thank you. It is so confusing using new maps on old cases. This has cleared up any confusion. Certainly appreciated.
 
Can I ask you what time is it where you are now ?
Whay are the chances of a bus passing at the exact time she cams out tho... and if it didnt stop directly ourside her house, surelt she would have still been seen tho, no?

I'm in the UK, it's 2.48am and bed is calling![/QUOTE]
The earliest buses on that route were after 06:00 @MummyRatcliffe[/QUOTE]
Thanks @MajorLang so even less likely that she could have left via her front door without being seen, right?
 
Can I ask you what time is it where you are now ?
Whay are the chances of a bus passing at the exact time she cams out tho... and if it didnt stop directly ourside her house, surelt she would have still been seen tho, no?

I'm in the UK, it's 2.48am and bed is calling![/QUOTE]
The earliest buses on that route were after 06:00 @MummyRatcliffe[/QUOTE]
Thanks @MajorLang so even less likely that she could have left via her front door without being seen, right?
 
I am confused about the seen backpack.i believe the person told NH people about it.
If this happened on 19 th Cl name would not have occurred to anyone because she was not missed till the following day.
Yes it was someone who came into Nags and told one if bar staff so not reported directly to police
Isn’t this the same cctv showing her posting something ?
N o that's the Melrosegate post office cctv
 
Apart from the couple seen by an unknown witness near the University and the sighting of the still missing rucksack also by an unknown witness I've yet to see any evidence that claudia ever left her home and set off for work that morning, no cctv, no witnesses, nothing, despite all the other mysterious people on the cctv released by the police, no trace of het
 
Yes important.The NH people told of this MAN telling them ( or showing them ?)about the backpack !They told him (NH ) to contact police .
Apparently he did because the camera ( in the last tv programme) focused on a patch of grass where supposedly the backpack was seen .
I didn't know about NH in connection with the unknown backpack, which resembled Claudia's. There was an anonymous call to police re the backpack - how does that fit together? :confused::confused:
 
We need to bear in mind that when the police show a clip for example the clip of the ‘dark’ person hesitating from stepping in the full glare of the lamppost all they would be asking is :is this you ?Do you know this person?
For all we know they could have yet another clip of the same person carrying someone on his shoulder further down the road!
Oh how I wish this was the case ?!
bbm
If LE would then say, the person is dead and we can't interview him anymore, it wouldn't help the case probably, unfortunately.
 
I didn't know about NH in connection with the unknown backpack, which resembled Claudia's. There was an anonymous call to police re the backpack - how does that fit together? :confused::confused:
Police were at Nags Head for a substantial period of time after she went missing and one of regulars mentioned the reporting
 
Thank you
Im puzzled by David Oxer hes holding my attention at the moment. In the 10th Anniversary program of Claudias disappearance 'Missing or Murdered' details he now recalls some 10 years after Claudia's disappearance are aired.
On occassion he used to give Claudia lifts to work. I think that Claudia would have chatted about her car trouble at work after all if it was her usual mode of transport it would cause some inconvenience to her routine and it would only be considerate for her to say look my cars got engine trouble it has to go into the garage for repair so I'll be walking to work so may or may not be a little late.
I havent been able to find statement details from David Oxer so Im asking did he have a conversation like this with her.. did he offer her a lift which she declined. Did he advise her he would have given her a lift but for some reason he wouldnt be able to that day?
Quite frankly if I knew a female work colleague was going to walk to work at that time of the morning at that time of the year and I was travelling to the same workplace too I would definately try and persaude her to accept my offer of a lift.
It just doesnt sit right with me that of all the days he drives to work he says on that day he decides to take a different route!! WHY??
What are the details of route he did take?
Because even if Claudia had not accepted an offer of a lift from him if he had taken his usual route its likely at some point he could have seen her on her journey.
I would like to know if there are cctv camera's or other University staff travelling to work that saw him on his route to work that day and confirm he did take a different route.
Whichever scenario picking Claudia up or taking a different route he may still be able to arrive at work on time without causing suspicion.
I wonder if he had breaks that morning.. how long those breaks were . .and how far from the canteen was the dump site of the backpack.
Is it known what vehicle he usually drives and if he has access to any other vehicles.
It has crossed my mind that after his conversation with Claudia about her lack of sleep and her explanation for this he may have been a bit unhappy with her and so didnt offer her a lift and deliberately took a different route so if she was going to have another sleepless night with this man she could jolly well walk to work.
There is also the possibilty that there was no conversation about a sleepless night with a man and his disclosure all these years later is a red herring.. (It wouldnt be the first time a person has produced a story about a fictious man to take the heat off an uncomfortable line of questioning)
Is it possible given his reference to the banter that goes on in the kitchen it was all being done one way.. maybe he was doing all the bantering surmising the reason why she looked in his words so rough
 
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