UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #8

[MajorLang]

her friends seem to play it both ways....ok not all her friends have to have the same opinion.....but one minute it seems to be that she's trying to sleep with anything that moves and in the next, someones saying that she wasn't like that at all....there may have been any number of boyfriends, but I don't believe in. the one that was remembered a year later...its one of the first things you'd mention if you knew someone who'd gone missing in suspicious circumstances.

I don't understand why the police got involved so quickly....arent people always complaining that they are rather slow in cases with adults of sound mind.

ill admit I don't know anything about cctv, but for the past few days I've thought there was something odd about the light man....I couldn't put my finger on it, but I think I have now.

we live on a road that runs parallel to the main road, leading to the station. and shops and pedestrians prefer to use our road...so a fair few number of people passing by.

ive watched from an upstairs window...so no one would look at me...and when someone is passing alone, they don't keep looking straight ahead...they always turn their head to at least one side...if only slightly...and that's. just passing this house.

the only exceptions I've noticed are when people are hurrying or in bad weather, when they. bend their heads.

probably just. people who live round here...but that man seems determined to keep his eyes fixed straight ahead.

yes, I know,....paranoid

@cortina
Let me answer your last observation first.
Light person and dark person were working together.
I will explain.
They were both in evening and morning cctv footage-Huge coincidence I don't think so.
Dark alleymans stuttering pause-Not to avoid light person as he halted after they will have seen one another. He paused so as not to catch up with and walk with him.

The first part of your observation. Her "friends" I agree. They blow hot and cold and I would say the reason they dumb down her promiscuity is because they are equally so and all 3 have probably had more Pr**** than the Nags Head dartboard.
SC AND JK didn't knock her door on 19th evening because either one of both will have been thinking she was being knocked up?
JK and SC are culpable IMO.
To answer your other point-The reason police responded so quickly was because they were already Survealancing the Nags Head due to it being a cocaine trading point.
My theory is that Claudia was an undercover cops girlfriend and the cop could well have breached undercover guidelines and perhaps he was another dart in the CL Dartboard?

 

[MajorLang]

her friends seem to play it both ways....ok not all her friends have to have the same opinion.....but one minute it seems to be that she's trying to sleep with anything that moves and in the next, someones saying that she wasn't like that at all....there may have been any number of boyfriends, but I don't believe in. the one that was remembered a year later...its one of the first things you'd mention if you knew someone who'd gone missing in suspicious circumstances.

I don't understand why the police got involved so quickly....arent people always complaining that they are rather slow in cases with adults of sound mind.

ill admit I don't know anything about cctv, but for the past few days I've thought there was something odd about the light man....I couldn't put my finger on it, but I think I have now.

we live on a road that runs parallel to the main road, leading to the station. and shops and pedestrians prefer to use our road...so a fair few number of people passing by.

ive watched from an upstairs window...so no one would look at me...and when someone is passing alone, they don't keep looking straight ahead...they always turn their head to at least one side...if only slightly...and that's. just passing this house.

the only exceptions I've noticed are when people are hurrying or in bad weather, when they. bend their heads.

probably just. people who live round here...but that man seems determined to keep his eyes fixed straight ahead.

yes, I know,....paranoid

@cortina
Let me answer your last observation first.
Light person and dark person were working together.
I will explain.
They were both in evening and morning cctv footage-Huge coincidence I don't think so.
Dark alleymans stuttering pause-Not to avoid light person as he halted after they will have seen one another. He paused so as not to catch up with and walk with him.

The first part of your observation. Her "friends" I agree. They blow hot and cold and I would say the reason they dumb down her promiscuity is because they are equally so and all 3 have probably had more Pr**** than the Nags Head dartboard.
SC AND JK didn't knock her door on 19th evening because either one of both will have been thinking she was being knocked up?
JK and SC are culpable IMO.

hello, major lang

I think were coming from a similar place....I don't know if jk sent it, but I don't think cl did

the thing I find really revealing about jk is her description of her dream about cl....it seems to push us to thinking it was something to do with her complicated love life and then denies its doing that.


my job is to do with analysing language and how its used and id say she's playing on a casual readers opinion that it was her l0ve life...and some would say she deserved what she got....its an attempt to deflect us.

sorry....hand hurts

hello, major lang

I think were coming from a similar place....I don't know if jk sent it, but I don't think cl did

the thing I find really revealing about jk is her description of her dream about cl....it seems to push us to thinking it was something to do with her complicated love life and then denies its doing that.


my job is to do with analysing language and how its used and id say she's playing on a casual readers opinion that it was her l0ve life...and some would say she deserved what she got....its an attempt to deflect us.

sorry....hand hurts

JK I believe uses outrageous and teasing phrases because she is tantalising Law Enforcement and is also keeping others close to the fire.
She has a mouth the size of the river Ouse and a brain the size of a pea.
She is the Moll of a gypsy traveller.

 

[Popejohn3]

@cortina
Let me answer your last observation first.
Light person and dark person were working together.
I will explain.
They were both in evening and morning cctv footage-Huge coincidence I don't think so.
Dark alleymans stuttering pause-Not to avoid light person as he halted after they will have seen one another. He paused so as not to catch up with and walk with him.

The first part of your observation. Her "friends" I agree. They blow hot and cold and I would say the reason they dumb down her promiscuity is because they are equally so and all 3 have probably had more Pr**** than the Nags Head dartboard.
SC AND JK didn't knock her door on 19th evening because either one of both will have been thinking she was being knocked up?
JK and SC are culpable IMO.
To answer your other point-The reason police responded so quickly was because they were already Survealancing the Nags Head due to it being a cocaine trading point.
My theory is that Claudia was an undercover cops girlfriend and the cop could well have breached undercover guidelines and perhaps he was another dart in the CL Dartboard?

And can I assume the police know the identity of this undercover cop?

 

[Popejohn3]

@Popejohn3 Your wrong. What if the mystery boyfriend was the reason for her murder but not her murderer?

Yep could easily be so !
By the same token you’d be acknowledging the existence of mystery boy-friend and this person would be able to shed light on who harmed her ? !

 

[Popejohn3]

Majorlang is being straightforward and to the point and throwing the challenge to some of her close friends .
Surly they cannot just simply read the thread without some kind of a response?
I said it before and say it again :Mud Sticks !
So come on use your pressure washer before it sticks !
Unless of course...

 

[MajorLang]

Yep could easily be so !
By the same token you’d be acknowledging the existence of mystery boy-friend and this person would be able to shed light on who harmed her ? !

@Popejohn3 Again your wrong
What if Ckaudia was killed after leaving RH mystery boyfriend and he didn't know that he was luring her into a trap?
Also
Do we know that only Claudia disappeared at that time-If she was seeing someone did he or she also get caught in the "crossfire"?

 

[MajorLang]

Majorlang is being straightforward and to the point and throwing the challenge to some of her close friends .
Surly they cannot just simply read the thread without some kind of a response?
I said it before and say it again :Mud Sticks !
So come on use your pressure washer before it sticks !
Unless of course...

@Popejohn3 Your Playing with me now. Washing drives is not my game but we both know who you are referring to

 

[Deadbeat]

@cortina
Her "friends" I agree. They blow hot and cold and I would say the reason they dumb down her promiscuity is because they are equally so and all 3 have probably had more Pr**** than the Nags Head dartboard.

Sorry, but couldn’t help but laugh at this!

 

[Deadbeat]

Reading ‘Gone’ and come across this.
The page that talks about a female jogger being approached by a van man shortly beforevCL’s disappearance. I mean this really could be nothing, he may have been going to ask for directions. This is my first time hearing about this though. The book is obviously a number of years old now though and this lead may have been exhausted?

 

[MajorLang]

And can I assume the police know the identity of this undercover cop?

@Popejohn3 Unable for anyone to answer this question than the "handler"
Depends on who was being investigated. If it didn't also involve LE corruption then the Chief Constable of Yorkshire would be aware but if it included corruption then it would be kept from most and even those most sênior.

 

[MajorLang]

Reading ‘Gone’ and come across this.
The page that talks about a female jogger being approached by a van man shortly beforevCL’s disappearance. I mean this really could be nothing, he may have been going to ask for directions. This is my first time hearing about this though. The book is obviously a number of years old now though and this lead may have been exhausted?

@Deadbeat You ha e to remember that there were likely to be many crimes occurring at the same time as Claudia went missing and also that Neil Rook the author was also the puppet of Martin Dales who was connected to Suzy Cooper by Suzie's brother (Archer-Her maiden name) connections were through the Synod.
Not many people know this.

 

[Popejohn3]

@Popejohn3 Again your wrong
What if Ckaudia was killed after leaving RH mystery boyfriend and he didn't know that he was luring her into a trap?
Also
Do we know that only Claudia disappeared at that time-If she was seeing someone did he or she also get caught in the "crossfire"?

Yes possible

@Popejohn3 Again your wrong
What if Ckaudia was killed after leaving RH mystery boyfriend and he didn't know that he was luring her into a trap?
Also
Do we know that only Claudia disappeared at that time-If she was seeing someone did he or she also get caught in the "crossfire"?

Yes it is possible yet an other person has disappeared but I would like to think the police would have made the connection by now

 

[Popejohn3]

@Deadbeat You ha e to remember that there were likely to be many crimes occurring at the same time as Claudia went missing and also that Neil Rook the author was also the puppet of Martin Dales who was connected to Suzy Cooper by Suzie's brother (Archer-Her maiden name) connections were through the Synod.
Not many people know this.

Was Suzy Cooper ever married !?

 

[Popejohn3]

@Popejohn3 Your Playing with me now. Washing drives is not my game but we both know who you are referring to

I’m not playing surly you’d be pleased if one or more people you mention come here to put the record straight ?

 

[Yozzer]

ML: The first part of your observation. Her "friends" I agree. They blow hot and cold and I would say the reason they dumb down her promiscuity is because they are equally so and all 3 have probably had more Pr**** than the Nags Head dartboard.

Sorry, but couldn’t help but laugh at this!

@MajorLang has always had a way with words. This part had a touch of Mills and Boon, I thought.

 

[Inspector Evans]

@cortina welcome.
As a new member I want to hear more from you. We have discussed this before but you are very astute here.
My theory is JK sent it to herself.I have to say but don't want to IMO Its unlikely that Claudia sent it for any other reason than to avoid JK and so in both scenarios JK is a big suspect but someone is protecting her.
She has never been arrested but IMO is a female Huntley.

It's a credible theory, plenty of times you see the abductor/murderer send a text to family to buy more time with body disposal and stall the investigation starting, there was one on the Murder on CCTV tv show the other night.

I presume the last text "Claudia" ever sent on that evening has been analysed compared to her other texts to her Mum and others she regularly texted to see if it was in her usual style e.g. sometimes people don't use captials or full stops so interested if there were any discrepancies.

Certainly odd she didn't reply to that Cyprus text that came in around 9pm. Even if she was too tired in the evening, next morning seemed an obvious time. Unless she didn't get the chance by that point.

 

[MajorLang]

It's a credible theory, plenty of times you see the abductor/murderer send a text to family to buy more time with body disposal and stall the investigation starting, there was one on the Murder on CCTV tv show the other night.

I presume the last text "Claudia" ever sent on that evening has been analysed compared to her other texts to her Mum and others she regularly texted to see if it was in her usual style e.g. sometimes people don't use captials or full stops so interested if there were any discrepancies.

Certainly odd she didn't reply to that Cyprus text that came in around 9pm. Even if she was too tired in the evening, next morning seemed an obvious time. Unless she didn't get the chance by that point.

@Inspector Evans There was a discrepancy in the text to JK. Claudia usually finished texts with "x" but not this one.???

 

[MajorLang]

Was Suzy Cooper ever married !?

When she lived in Warwickshire and before moving to York UNI to study, she was in an abusive relationship-Her maiden name is Archer but strangely she kept her married name of Cooper.
You move away from an abusive relationship yet keep your married name????????
Lots to this case that aren't simple but very strange.

 

[Popejohn3]

When she lived in Warwickshire and before moving to York UNI to study, she was in an abusive relationship-Her maiden name is Archer but strangely she kept her married name of Cooper.
You move away from an abusive relationship yet keep your married name????????
Lots to this case that aren't simple but very strange.

Strange indeed ... she referred to herself and Claudia as spinster sisters !
You seem to know the whole story ...how does it end ?

 

[MajorLang]

Strange indeed ... she referred to herself and Claudia as spinster sisters !
You seem to know the whole story ...how does it end ?

@Popejohn3 Well she was a spinster when she met Claudia.
I don't know the whole story and it hasn't ended yet.