UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #9

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Thanks! I see now ... More harmless than I thought.
 
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Ive often wondered that as well, sort of laying low until the initial heat was off
You know something, I think we all on here have learned so much on how to commit murder and hide the evidence that we are all going to be on police radar in future disappearances !? Lol
 
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I for my part don't remember "wasn't going to have a life for a bit". I remember (maybe wrongly?), Claudia wrote: it isn't easy (or very similar). I stumbled upon this, because I thought at the time: Who wouldn't know, that 12 morning shifts aren't easy. Why should she have mentioned that? - If the sms was fake, then these words were unmasking, IMO. - Now there is another text suddenly and I'm wondering.

ETA: Why should she have mentioned that to her best friend and ex-room mate JK?
The article from the Daily Mirror states this

“The last text she sent was saying she had a row of 12 early start shifts and how she wasn’t going to have a life for a bit.“

But that just looks like JK’s Interpretation of the supposed text.

I am sure I have seen other versions though.
 
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If Claudia sent that text, she could have been lying. Avoiding the Nags Head crowd for some reason.
It’s unusual to work so many days in a row, but not unless it was to cover holidays or sickness.
Had she said this kind of thing before? To other people, as an excuse not to see them ?
In my experience, secretive people keep friends in sort of compartments. They probably aren’t even aware of each other.
It makes being duplicitous much easier.
 
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im back...very tired but will try to make sense....a ha

ive been through what ive missed

there. was , I think, some bigger stuff going on around the nags at that time....drugs activity probably.


the last thing you want in that situation is for the police to focus on the area, looking for a missing woman.

so I think Claudius death was either unplanned or people underestimated how quickly shed be missed.

Claudius big problem was how unpredictable she was when shed been drinking, so they either had to get her physically away from her house or kill her so that she wouldn't be able to unintentionally spill the beans when next drunk.

its possible that she took too much funny stuff somewhere by accident...ac perhaps....or its possible that they thought the 11 or. 12 day working stint jk said she described in her message would give them enough time to get the distance they needed...,hadn't reck0ned on her visiting her mother, perhaps, or maybe they could have covered that....not sure. where sc reporting her missing fits in...maybe a change of plan.

I think that one day well have a newspaper article with the headline....death or disappearance of Claudia Lawrence linked to drugs gang activity

I dont know if well ever know the final person responsible for her death or whether it was an accident....but im sure there's a group that know the answer.

so thats my theory...till the next one
 
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If Claudia sent that text, she could have been lying. Avoiding the Nags Head crowd for some reason.
It’s unusual to work so many days in a row, but not unless it was to cover holidays or sickness.
Had she said this kind of thing before? To other people, as an excuse not to see them ?
In my experience, secretive people keep friends in sort of compartments. They probably aren’t even aware of each other.
It makes being duplicitous much easier.
I don't believe the wording of the text is as important.
The question is this:
"Why would Claudia send such a text to JK if she was meeting Suzy in the Nags and behind the bar serving her with her pint of Cider would be JK"

lie revealed

So Claudia is unlikely to have sent the text.
And
To be clear, whoever sent the text to JK doesn't absolve JK from suspicion either IMO.
 
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im back...very tired but will try to make sense....a ha

ive been through what ive missed

there. was , I think, some bigger stuff going on around the nags at that time....drugs activity probably.


the last thing you want in that situation is for the police to focus on the area, looking for a missing woman.

so I think Claudius death was either unplanned or people underestimated how quickly shed be missed.

Claudius big problem was how unpredictable she was when shed been drinking, so they either had to get her physically away from her house or kill her so that she wouldn't be able to unintentionally spill the beans when next drunk.

its possible that she took too much funny stuff somewhere by accident...ac perhaps....or its possible that they thought the 11 or. 12 day working stint jk said she described in her message would give them enough time to get the distance they needed...,hadn't reck0ned on her visiting her mother, perhaps, or maybe they could have covered that....not sure. where sc reporting her missing fits in...maybe a change of plan.

I think that one day well have a newspaper article with the headline....death or disappearance of Claudia Lawrence linked to drugs gang activity

I dont know if well ever know the final person responsible for her death or whether it was an accident....but im sure there's a group that know the answer.

so thats my theory...till the next one
Much of that theory very plausible @cortina
I'm sure your right that all of the activity wasn't about Claudia and she was somewhere else, albeit unsafe.
The bit that isn't quite correct is about her being missed so quickly.

she was not missed for 40 hours and until Suzy decided to report to her Dad.

This for me is the bit that is suspicious. A prolific communicator who spoke to her parents at least once daily and didn't on 19th?
No texts from her to friends for a whole working day?
The no show at the pub that night to meet Suzy?

Friends know something??????

Equally and to support your theory in drug activity-The almost immediate police response for an adult missing person-You may get this for a child but not for a 35 year old who was a party girl.
Police response is likely to be because eof their knowledge of drug and gang activity in her area..
 
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A time in the future.

It's 2021

National media headlines

"Today 2 people related to one another have been charged for the murder of Claudia Lawrence.

it is understood that one is in their 6os and the other in their 30s.
In addition 3 other males have been arrested and charged with perverting the course of justice"
It is understood that they all knew Claudia and lived locally to her.

IMO of course....
 
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If Claudia sent that text, she could have been lying. Avoiding the Nags Head crowd for some reason.
It’s unusual to work so many days in a row, but not unless it was to cover holidays or sickness.
Had she said this kind of thing before? To other people, as an excuse not to see them ?
In my experience, secretive people keep friends in sort of compartments. They probably aren’t even aware of each other.
It makes being duplicitous much easier.
Exactly...I need a break from you ... but don’t take offence okay ?
 
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im back...very tired but will try to make sense....a ha

ive been through what ive missed

there. was , I think, some bigger stuff going on around the nags at that time....drugs activity probably.


the last thing you want in that situation is for the police to focus on the area, looking for a missing woman.

so I think Claudius death was either unplanned or people underestimated how quickly shed be missed.

Claudius big problem was how unpredictable she was when shed been drinking, so they either had to get her physically away from her house or kill her so that she wouldn't be able to unintentionally spill the beans when next drunk.

its possible that she took too much funny stuff somewhere by accident...ac perhaps....or its possible that they thought the 11 or. 12 day working stint jk said she described in her message would give them enough time to get the distance they needed...,hadn't reck0ned on her visiting her mother, perhaps, or maybe they could have covered that....not sure. where sc reporting her missing fits in...maybe a change of plan.

I think that one day well have a newspaper article with the headline....death or disappearance of Claudia Lawrence linked to drugs gang activity

I dont know if well ever know the final person responsible for her death or whether it was an accident....but im sure there's a group that know the answer.

so thats my theory...till the next one
The headlines I would like to see and pray for :
Closure for CL family
Funeral to take place at the Church .
The judge, when passing sentence, is expected to bear in mind the cooperation and remorse shown by the accused !
 
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ive always felt it very strange that the police jumped into the disappearance of an adult woman so quickly....the drug activity would explain it.

oh, I see, re sc...still dont know how it fits in, though.

pope John....you seem convinced that a. future accused will feel remorse...so you are saying you know who the perp was.

are you also saying they'd be accused of murder or covering up an accidental death

if the accused in the future also made money out of drugs, I hope they regret that too....ive seen one or two lives out of the vast number lost in this way
 
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ive always felt it very strange that the police jumped into the disappearance of an adult woman so quickly....the drug activity would explain it.

oh, I see, re sc...still dont know how it fits in, though.

pope John....you seem convinced that a. future accused will feel remorse...so you are saying you know who the perp was.

are you also saying they'd be accused of murder or covering up an accidental death

if the accused in the future also made money out of drugs, I hope they regret that too....ive seen one or two lives out of the vast number lost in this way
pm me !
 
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The headlines I would like to see and pray for :
Closure for CL family
Funeral to take place at the Church .
The judge, when passing sentence, is expected to bear in mind the cooperation and remorse shown by the accused !
Cooperation, would that be the 11 years of lies and the 11 years of torment for Claudia's family and friends
 
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I don't believe the wording of the text is as important.
The question is this:
"Why would Claudia send such a text to JK if she was meeting Suzy in the Nags and behind the bar serving her with her pint of Cider would be JK"

lie revealed

So Claudia is unlikely to have sent the text.
And
To be clear, whoever sent the text to JK doesn't absolve JK from suspicion either IMO.
12 days on the trot, earlies. No fun for me. Ok we know that Friday was booked off or was off like the prior Friday ,could have changed? Early shift until late afternoon so what’s the late shift? Does uni have one in canteen? No fun for me or if posted by another, no more fun for you.
 
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