UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #13

[MidsummersDay]

Thanks. Not sure I quite understand it but it seems a bit of a long shot. Who's to say any perp/third party even has/does SM?

(Essentially group profiling and then matching to social media outlets.).


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[guruagain]

A few years back, we had a trash company that when they collected, there was a driver, and two men in the back walking who positioned the bins onto the lift. I remember watching them take things out of the bins, sometimes they wanted to keep. Just wondered if you are a driver or a sorter at the station, are you always looking for things tossed away that might have value? If they spied a phone, might they not grab it? If they were asked about it a few days later, maybe you just say you never saw anything. Just a thought.

But then you have to keep quiet about it for 15 weeks, watching the family go mad with worry, watching the appeals, seeing the constant local news stories, seeing posters of Corrie around all the local towns and still not come forward knowing you did actually take the phone, a big piece of evidence, from the recycling depot. Tough for most people to do but not all I suppose.

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

Yes, combined with geo spatial data they hypothetically could reverse identify individuals likely linked to a specific location (burial site, kidnap hosted area etc).

(Essentially group profiling and then matching to social media outlets.).


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[lusijay]

Originally Posted by emmamartha
Someone said about the puppy and the purchase price, looking at the pic of the puppy it could either be a French bulldog puppy or a staffy type pup...I'm not sure how old the puppy is but if it was a French bulldog you're looking at between £1,500 - £3,000 which might explain why he was skint.
Staffordshire bull terriers on the other hand can go for £100 non Kc reg to £700 for kc registered.
The point is he may have been broke but if he's saved up to buy this puppy and is devoted to her then to me as a dog owner it makes it less likely that he's just going to abandon her. "


The puppy is 7 months old, puppies are bought usually at 3 months old. So I would bet he has had it for 4 months. It is a cross with a French bulldog, potentially with a Staffy, who knows. As you say, £3000 can be paid for french bulldogs, and on average £300 for staffs (they don't hold much value as drug users often breed them and sell there for £50 in the pub). It think he is crossed with a pug, it's very common for a breeder to do this as the pug gene is so similar, so if they end up with the pups looking more like the second parent dog, it doesn't really matter and won't decrease their value.

I work with a dog rescue, and own a staff and a pug among others, and you wouldn't normally see black puppies from the two being crossed, as black staffs are less sort after so they tend not to breed from them. (I don't know why, mine is beautiful!)

 

[Greater Than]

If there is no source for the wine claim, I'm going to remove some posts.

We don't want to go down the "distressing" video road again.

 

[Shiressleuth]

If there is no source for the wine claim, I'm going to remove some posts.

We don't want to go down the "distressing" video road again.

There is a source previously linked that confirmed he drank alcohol in his car so it had to be beer, wine or spirits. So are we allowed to say he drank beer in his car being as that is the weakest of the three? I'm not being funny but we are only saying what N has already confirmed and are speculating only on the type of alcohol ATM.

 

[earthspirit]

This sounds like a young man who takes risks. Maybe too many risks.

i even ask myself why i am bothering to be interested in this case? if it wasnt for his mums beautiful pained face, i dont think i would be giving this the energy i am. if it hadnt been for the raf connection and the potential for this to be terrorist connected, i doubt that it would have had the public interest. just think of all the other missing young men in this country - strange circumstances - probably attacked by rivals drug dealer other petty criminals - one punch can kill - and life is fragile.

 

[Shiressleuth]

A few years back, we had a trash company that when they collected, there was a driver, and two men in the back walking who positioned the bins onto the lift. I remember watching them take things out of the bins, sometimes they wanted to keep. Just wondered if you are a driver or a sorter at the station, are you always looking for things tossed away that might have value? If they spied a phone, might they not grab it? If they were asked about it a few days later, maybe you just say you never saw anything. Just a thought.

My household waste recycling tip is like that. The guys working there reclaim anything useful like garden chairs, bits n bobs and if anyone wants to buy it off them they can. Perk of the job.

 

[Greater Than]

There is a source previously linked that confirmed he drank alcohol in his car so it had to be beer, wine or spirits. So are we allowed to say he drank beer in his car being as that is the weakest of the three? I'm not being funny but we are only saying what N has already confirmed and are speculating only on the type of alcohol ATM.

Him drinking in his parked car while on the phone with his brother is definitely confirmed.

I just want to avoid speculations of the type of alcohol evolving into fact, like the vodka claim.

Vodka was only speculation and several threads later it began to be stated as fact.

 

[earthspirit]

I was thinking last night that there is a strong possibility he is still alive. Based on the fact not one positive sighting, no body found, no leads, no new info etc. Maybe someone is keeping in captive.

I mean if he was murdered lets say, surely with all this heat on Corrie something would have been found by now. Its not exactly easy to get rid of a body is it. Unless you are a professional assassin.

All routes have been searched with a fine tooth comb. Not a thing found.

It just screams to me his still alive. Being held by someone.


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have you even looked at the maps of this area? there are loads of places to conceal a body - remember holly and jessica in a single track lane down into a deep ditch - the area is full of those! there are lots of abandoned buildings on farm land and common land - there are vast expanses of trees - there are thick densely filled areas of vegetation - there are military buildings left over from the cold war time - there are abandoned farm buildings and industrial sites - there are miles of nature reserves - there are many water ways some quarries or stone works - you say hard to dispose of a body? although a decomposing body will have a strong odour - this only last for a short period of time - in open farmland with muck manure silage pig and all the other countryside smells, nobody might sense anything if they are not physically walking in that area. you also get dead deer sheep and other wild animals which taint the air. lots of roads for driving on but not many people walking out along those country roads in september and later - had this been in summer when its hot there might have been something to detect.

 

[earthspirit]

Do you mean on their way back to base?


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no i do not know how anyone was getting home - i was under the impression two taxis went to the base and corrie missed a lift in either of them as his friends made a "mistake" thinking he was with the other crowd. strange mistake but hey ho its all we are being told right now

 

[Shiressleuth]

Yea post to post, brother, not radius extremity to radius extremity.

??????

 

[suzyjackson]

New article today with a video of part of the This Morning interview

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25516...help-find-him-three-months-after-he-vanished/

 

[Northern Light]

Quoting both of you just for clarity's sake.

My concern re. The financial issue is that, just like the puppy, it's been given as a reason, repeatedly, as to why

- why he ought to have have waited for 1 week til payday.... if he was planning on going missing.
- and interpreted as a reason( in some quarters) as to why he wouldn't be able to go AWOL full stop. ( the untouched bank accounts are thrown in too.)

All this is just as specious /“nebulous” as anything we might say on WS.
( I'm putting the side-issue about having no £ but still going out drinking aside for a moment. )

Why wait a week IF you are living beyond your means/poss have debts/DD's at start of month ( as per French's post) – it doesn't necessarily make a lot of difference.
You could still go missing IF you were skint IF you had other funds/ financial support from x person(s) unknown
Plenty of missing persons go missing both with very little planning and presume some do with the assistance of a supporter
(Not seen enough “evidence” in the constantly evolving info. yet to convince me that he couldn't have walked off/been assisted to leave.)
And you may not have planned to go missing for this long either so again your financial considerations would be different.

My thoughts too, but not excluded another couple of options.

 

[Shiressleuth]

no i do not know how anyone was getting home - i was under the impression two taxis went to the base and corrie missed a lift in either of them as his friends made a "mistake" thinking he was with the other crowd. strange mistake but hey ho its all we are being told right now

Spirit, I sense your frustration as we are now talking about cig butts, wine bottle tops etc amid the lack of any real evidence and the restrictions on what can be mentioned. I'm with you though on sticking with it despite the frustrations. Something will come up with so many eyes on this now, experts and amateurs all.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Him drinking in his parked car while on the phone with his brother is definitely confirmed.

I just want to avoid speculations of the type of alcohol evolving into fact, like the vodka claim.

Vodka was only speculation and several threads later it began to be stated as fact.

Completely understand. Repeat things enough times and suddenly its fact. If its in MSM it must be true. Luckily we are able to filter and analyse to try and make sense of it all. Thanks for your help.

 

[cottonweaver]

Someone said about the puppy and the purchase price, looking at the pic of the puppy it could either be a French bulldog puppy or a staffy type pup...I'm not sure how old the puppy is but if it was a French bulldog you're looking at between £1,500 - £3,000 which might explain why he was skint.
Staffordshire bull terriers on the other hand can go for £100 non Kc reg to £700 for kc registered.
The point is he may have been broke but if he's saved up to buy this puppy and is devoted to her then to me as a dog owner it makes it less likely that he's just going to abandon her.


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sources say it's a cross breed - only reason that I added that point earlier.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-38267086
multiple sources say the same.

I'm going to go with the sources unless peeps can provide an alt source - otherwise rumours grow legs and create more confusion. ( When I'm speculating I'll make it clear just as others add JMO etc. )

 

[cottonweaver]

But then you have to keep quiet about it for 15 weeks, watching the family go mad with worry, watching the appeals, seeing the constant local news stories, seeing posters of Corrie around all the local towns and still not come forward knowing you did actually take the phone, a big piece of evidence, from the recycling depot. Tough for most people to do but not all I suppose.

Agree plus sometimes this much publicity can be a bad thing. And not just in relation to handing on a phone you may have taken/fenced...
The more publicity and self-doubt about leaving it so long can then reinforce that reluctance to come forward.
Imagine the vilification from 80+K FB members, some of them local!

 

[Jean-Claud]

I was unsure whether she got the car as a gift or she got it because she has better credit and he was paying her to pay for it every month...

He might have been reckless; £19K a year base rate plus the fact he'd been on 2Sqn for 2-3 years would mean he'd likely qualified for extra parachute pay is a lot of cash to get through.

Not jump qualified.

 

[earthspirit]

Right !!!
The bin lorry, the phone, the bins and the pings?

well lets all start at the beginning of this.

corrie is in the bin area sometime before 3.30am and the phone travels a similar route to the bin lorry around an hour later.

forget the bins and someone dumping or stealing it - leave the bin man out of the equation.

so then we have corrie in the bin area with a phone for around an hour. nobody sees him in there so he is either in a building or in a car. what could he have been doing? well there is nobody saying he was doing a drunken version of the highland fling and he wasnt singing with other drunks? taking a leak doesnt take an hour. so what could he have been doing? drinking in one of the apartments? then leaves in a car? sitting in a car drinking smoking or doing something else? with the lights turned off? all quite possible. forget the bin lorry remember!

he then sets off on a route that takes him in the vicinity of the cell tower at barton mills. thats lots of places between bse and bm. so how about he is getting friendly or is friends with the people in the car? they then give a slow drive lift to bm area? could this be usaf people on their way home? could it be people who decide late at night to go to the dogging sites ( just for a laugh like the young lads do round here? - our local papers often make an issue of it) this is all plausible so far yes?

there is also a known? drinking party house around bm? i do not have the source for this but its quite a well known place to locals apparently. so, should the enquiry maybe focus on these sort of things?

corrie has either then had an accident stumbling and staggering over countryside trying to get the few miles back to honington or he has got into some sort of fight at the places ive mentioned.

i am just so fed up reading about the pings and bins and dumps when really it seems much simpler to understand in my mind?

oh just one last thing, the speed of said car seems quite slow? i know the roads and surely 40mph is a more realistic speed to be driving? i once got stopped by a police patrol car - first time on a country road in surrey - i was doing about 28mph in the pitch dark no satnav no map - just knowing to look for particular signs. they just wanted to check i had not been drinking and said that people doing less than 30 on these sort of roads, was either very old and half blind and shouldnt be on the road or that they had been drinking and were keeping well under the limit thinking this would not attract attention.

WHY was the vehicle corries phone travelling in going so slowly? think carefully about this!

OH AND CAN WE PLEASE HAVE CLARITY ON PHONE? please expain one more time for the duffers among us - if was on all the time all of the things they have said it did could have happened? it was not switched off and then on again? it just said goodbye bse and hello bm? this is as complicated as any reply needs to be. otherwise i will just keep on asking questions about it