GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #1

[Alyce]

So one point seems to have been explained.

This 2.45pm sighting of Helen by the three dog walkers was something that IS told the police. So clearly this never happened as she was, it seems, already dead by then.
That also explains how he had more time to dispose of Helen and Boris. I was thinking that if Helen was meant to be out and about at 2.45pm then she might not have got home until after 3pm, which would leave a very short time before other occupants returned to the house at say 5pm ish.


ETA It possibly also explains why these * alleged * dog walkers all saw Helen walking round Green Drift and the other side roads.
If IS had said she was seen, by dog walkers, on the Heath with Boris , it would have been fairly easy for the police to ask the local walkers to corroborate this. I think, IS saying it was in the side road area, would have been harder to find anyone to confirm this info.

 

[Alyce]

Ah! maybe it had Helen's dna in it, and if the cleaner changed the sheets it would be obvious Helen wasn't there because they would remain untouched. But that assumes the cleaner hadn't washed the sheets since Helen's last visit, which is unlikely.

Yes, that makes sense. He wanted it to look as though she had been there, even if only briefly, before going somewhere else.
That might also explain the clothes in the laundry basket and the wet clothes. This would be more indication that Helen had been at the cottage.

Unfortunately for him, he clearly doesnt know how cleaners work and had obviously never taken notice of how Helen put laundry into the basket.

 

[Alyce]

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[COLOR=#141414][FONT="][h=3]Stewart 'asked cleaner not to change couple's bedding'[/h]The prosecution tells the court two days after Helen’s death, cleaners visited their £1.5m home.
Mr Trimmer tells the jury Stewart twice told the cleaner not to change the bedding in their room.
He said: “The cleaner at the address in Broadstairs was used to Helen being a creature of routine.
“She was told to clean as normal but not to change the bedding in their bedroom, She was told that twice.
“She saw women’s clothes dumped on the washing basket, and not folded, which was unusual as Helen would always fold them.
“She also saw clothes were hung across chairs to dry and this was odd because Helen always used the dryer.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-live-9595054?service=responsive

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So he also told the cleaner at Royston not to change the bedding ?
That I dont understand.
Surely, after suffocating Helen, he would have changed the bedding himself, just to be absolutely sure there was nothing that could indicate murder.

 

[Tortoise]

So he also told the cleaner at Royston not to change the bedding ?
That I dont understand.
Surely, after suffocating Helen, he would have changed the bedding himself, just to be absolutely sure there was nothing that could indicate murder.

I think it was only the Broadstairs cleaner.

 

[Tortoise]

He must have made a few trips there then, if he was doing washing and stuff to make it look like Helen was there. I wonder if the cleaner thought it odd that Stewart was telling her how to do her job, and not Helen.

 

[Tortoise]

Evil. Callous. Not one feeling for Helen, or Boris.

Someone doesn't suddenly become like this at the age of 55/56. IMO.

 

[Tortoise]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]Stewart is arrested on suspicion of murder[/h]Stewart was arrested on suspicion of murder at 7.02am on Monday July 11, 2016.The arrest was recorded on a police bodycam, jurors have been told. When they arrive he’s not dressed and is in a dressing gown. He comes downstairs and is arrested and cautioned. His reply was: “Bloody hell why?” He then sits down and says: “I don’t understand, what’s happened? Have you found her? Where is she?” He then says: “I don’t know why the garage door is open”. The prosecution said Stewart knows at this stage where Helen is.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-day-one-murder-trial-12427078

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[Tortoise]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]Stewart 'faked confusion' when arrested in his dressing gown[/h]When Stewart was arrested, in his dressing gown, he told officers “Bloody Hell why?”
He added: “Well I don’t understand, what’s happened? Have you found her? Where is she?
“I don’t know why’s the garage door open.”
Trimmer said: “He knows that’s where she is, the crown say he well knew the significance of the garage.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-live-9595054?service=responsive

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[Tortoise]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]Stewart is questioned twice by police[/h]Stewart is taken to Stevenage Police Station and asks police on the way if they have found Helen. During interview he sometimes sat mute, did not even say ‘no comment’. He was then released on bail. Further searches ended in police finding Helen’s body and the body of her pet dog, in the underground cesspit. Stewart is arrested again and interviewed, but again chose to make no comment at all about the finding of the body or any of the circumstances before it.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-day-one-murder-trial-12427078

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[Alyce]

I think it was only the Broadstairs cleaner.

Yes, makes sense. I think it's just the reporters, or rather, the Court sanctioned info, who are getting muddled, as they talk about the £1.5 million property, which has to be Royston.

 

[Tortoise]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]Wifi router is removed from Broadstairs address and found at Royston house[/h]On April 21 a police officer went to Broadstairs during the course of the missing person’s inquiry. He examined a wifi router. This examination confirmed that Helen’s phone connected to the wifi device - so the prosecution suggest this is evidence he had Helen’s phone on him when he visited Broadstairs. A police officer went back to Broadstairs after this on a separate occasion, but discovered the router was no longer there. The router was later found packed up at the Royston address. The prosecution say the defendant realised this was an error and there was a danger police could see that Helen’s phone had connected to the router [so therefore took it from the Broadstairs address].

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-day-one-murder-trial-12427078

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[Tortoise]

Yes, makes sense. I think it's just the reporters, or rather, the Court sanctioned info, who are getting muddled, as they talk about the £1.5 million property, which has to be Royston.

Do we know how much the Broadstairs property is worth? (feel like a Daily Mail reporter asking that!)

 

[Tortoise]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]Victim was not prescribed sleeping drug which was found in her body[/h]On her iPad Helen had been searching for ‘falling asleep in the afternoon and ‘can’t stop falling asleep’.
The defendant was prescribed Zopliclone, a sedating drug used in the short term treatment of insomnia, on January 26, 2016. Zoplicone was found in the chest cavity fluid, liver and muscle tissue of Helen Bailey, but Helen herself had not been prescribed this drug. Zoplicone was detected “at increasing concentrations” in the hair segments of Helen Bailey corresponding to the time period of early February 2016 to early March 2016 - and early March 2016 to early April 2016.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-day-one-murder-trial-12427078

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[Alyce]

Do we know how much the Broadstairs property is worth? (feel like a Daily Mail reporter asking that!)

LOL re DM .... I will have a look round.

 

[Alyce]

[FONT="]15:51[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#141414][FONT="][h=3]Wifi router is removed from Broadstairs address and found at Royston house[/h]On April 21 a police officer went to Broadstairs during the course of the missing person’s inquiry. He examined a wifi router. This examination confirmed that Helen’s phone connected to the wifi device - so the prosecution suggest this is evidence he had Helen’s phone on him when he visited Broadstairs. A police officer went back to Broadstairs after this on a separate occasion, but discovered the router was no longer there. The router was later found packed up at the Royston address. The prosecution say the defendant realised this was an error and there was a danger police could see that Helen’s phone had connected to the router [so therefore took it from the Broadstairs address].

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-day-one-murder-trial-12427078

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Mistake either way though. So he renews her Arsenal ticket because she would be upset if he didnt do so, but takes the router away - wouldnt she also have been upset if she had come back to the cottage to spend some time there ( after being allegedly somewhere else ! )

 

[cottonweaver]

If I wrote what I think of this man - I'd be Timed Out.

Posters - thanks for all the comprehensive updates.
Agree with all of you- I hadn't thought it was going to be pre-med to this extent ( the sleeping meds) , although last year we presumed he must have some psychopathic traits based on the key facts.

Cannot imagine the anger that her family/close friends must be feeling.( he made Helen's last weeks on earth so anxious- where she is doubting her own sanity etc - "doesn't recognise her own hand" as in T's post below)

As a few of you noted, shades of the Sadie Hartley murder again, a clinical perpetrator who really thinks s/he is awfully clever. Devious as hell - sure, but made a lot of mistakes.

 

[Tortoise]

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[FONT=&quot][h=3]Helen was 'worried about becoming forgetful'[/h]Helen Bailey told her brother that she was ‘worried about becoming forgetful’ after an incident in March 2016, the court was told. In the incident she had walked off the beach and left Boris behind - and she had been stumbling about and was not sure why. John Bailey [Helen’s brother] said he attributed this to stress at the time. Helen’s mother, Eileen Bailey, said Helen was worried her memory was playing tricks on her. She said Helen confided in her about being worried about her state of mind. She said Helen said: “Mum, I don’t even recognise my own hand.” when sitting at her computer. Eileen Bailey attributed this to over-work and exhaustion at the time.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-day-one-murder-trial-12427078

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[Tortoise]

If I wrote what I think of this man - I'd be Timed Out.

Posters - thanks for all the comprehensive updates.
Agree with all of you- I hadn't thought it was going to be pre-med to this extent ( the sleeping meds) , although last year we presumed he must have some psychopathic traits based on the key facts.

Cannot imagine the anger that her family/close friends must be feeling.

As a few of you notes, shades of the Sadie Hartley murder again, a clinical perpetrator who really thinks s/he is awfully clever. Devious as hell - sure, but made a lot of mistakes.

Hey cotton! Lovely to see you :seeya:

 

[Alyce]

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[COLOR=#141414][FONT="][h=3]Helen was 'worried about becoming forgetful'[/h]Helen Bailey told her brother that she was ‘worried about becoming forgetful’ after an incident in March 2016, the court was told. In the incident she had walked off the beach and left Boris behind - and she had been stumbling about and was not sure why. John Bailey [Helen’s brother] said he attributed this to stress at the time. Helen’s mother, Eileen Bailey, said Helen was worried her memory was playing tricks on her. She said Helen confided in her about being worried about her state of mind. She said Helen said: “Mum, I don’t even recognise my own hand.” when sitting at her computer. Eileen Bailey attributed this to over-work and exhaustion at the time.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-day-one-murder-trial-12427078

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That just made me cry. To do that to someone who you pretend to love and care about. Poor Helen, spending her last months in a horrible fog and fearing that she was losing her mind. I hope he rots.

 

[Nellie Nelson]

Hi all.

It's always preferable to have a websleuther reporting from court as well as the press, but the reporting of the opening statement has been great so far.

My only minor exception/quibble to this has been less clarity about distinguishing between the two houses [Royston and Broadstairs] than I would like. Hopefully later write ups will make which cleaner said what about which house much clearer.

Oh and what a grade A Barsteward Ian Stewart turned out to be.

That said there may be some high comedy to come. Can't wait to hear about the [fantasy] dynamic duo 'Joe and Nick'.