GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #8

[Cherwell]

Probably evidence of how happy she was.

If he tries to use Helen's own words in his defence that would be sick beyond all imagination.

 

[snoopydog]

Unless it's evidence from the diaries of JS


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[Tortoise]

If he tries to use Helen's own words in his defence that would be sick beyond all imagination.

I think it must be prosecution evidence. Something that someone noticed and brought to their attention. Defence have had long enough to have prepared before today surely.

 

[Alyce]

What can it be, what can it be?? Something IS said that can be refuted...Hmm

I was thinking, last night, about ISs appeal to Helen. All that stuff about my heart doesn't even exist.
And I wondered if he had lifted those lines from somewhere. Maybe one of Helen's teen fiction books.
But , even if he did, that would hardly be evidence to support the case against him - would just show that he's cr*p at writing and showing emotions.

 

[Tortoise]

Hows the old poll doing...

Ooh, 34 - Nil

Now there's a surprise!

 

[Squamous]

I've read the book and referred back to it a lot. There isn't a great deal that isn't in her blog, and nothing that would be worth bringing into court as fact imo. It's mostly about Helen, nothing particularly damning or revelatory in relation to IS.

 

[Cherwell]

I think it must be prosecution evidence. Something that someone noticed and brought to their attention. Defence have had long enough to have prepared before today surely.

Oooh, oooh ..... wasn't somebody from here going to email the prosecution about some points?

 

[ColourPurple]

A fictional piece of writing that was on the bookshelf of IS, where the plot is eerily similar to his fantastical tale?

Ooh that would be good. Was there anything obvious on the bookshelf in the background on that pic of Helen in her study?

 

[Alyce]

The only thing I can think of, off the top of my head ( before I go and search thru the book again ) is that in ISs evidence he says Helen ( accompanied by IS ) went to the cottage for the first time, after JSs death, in Feb or March 2012.
I would have to recheck the exact date he quoted, but it he said it was a year or so since JSs death.

Whereas in the book, Helen says they went down there in November 2011.

But again, I can't see the huge relevance of that.

 

[Tortoise]

Oooh, oooh ..... wasn't somebody from here going to email the prosecution about some points?

Yes. COTTON! where are you?!

Did you only mention the weather reports?

 

[MissTwiddle]

Thank you for the updates, and yet another twist in the tale.


I haven't read Helen's books but have just loaded her bikini book up in google books to use the search function, I found this ...

I do hope these words come back to haunt him.

 

[Moll]

I was thinking, last night, about ISs appeal to Helen. All that stuff about my heart doesn't even exist.
And I wondered if he had lifted those lines from somewhere. Maybe one of Helen's teen fiction books.
But , even if he did, that would hardly be evidence to support the case against him - would just show that he's cr*p at writing and showing emotions.

I agree it's hardly evidence against him on a murder charge, but the peculiarity of IS's writing even when some people thought he'd managed to produce something beautiful has always reminded me of teaching non-native-English speakers. Some were not very good but would suddenly produce perfectly literate-sounding yet clunky stuff that didn't fit with the rest of their work at all and was clearly lifted - in recent years, cut and pasted from online sources. Sometimes it was so badly done that there would be a pious Christian reference in an essay by a Muslim. IS's notes and messages are a bit like that.

 

[Mozza]

I reckon it's a book IS has been reading perhaps something like How to get rid of your lover! The reason it's going to take time for the prosecution to get papers together is because they will all have to read it to see if he has followed it to the letter. Haha! Could be way off beam here ����

 

[Tortoise]

Something to do with Diane's ring being recycled?

 

[TheRisenBishop]

A fictional piece of writing that was on the bookshelf of IS, where the plot is eerily similar to his fantastical tale?

Here's my two penneth. Choose any one from the following three:

"Die Verwandlung" ("The Metamorphosis"), Der Process (The Trial), and Das Schloss (The Castle). All of these by Franz Kafka a writer of novels and short stories who is widely regarded as one of the major figures of 20th century literature. His work, which fuses elements of realism and the fantastic, typically features isolated protagonists faced by bizarre or surrealistic predicaments and incomprehensible absurdity.

Tell me it ain't so WS'ers!

 

[neteditor]

On the subject of how long a jury can take to give a verdict... Peter Tobin's jury were back in ten minutes. They barely had time to get to the jury room and back.

 

[Alyce]

Forward Slash
Mark Edwards (Author), Louise Voss (Author)


Voss and Edwards' latest story follows Amy, who is confused by a seemingly innocuous email received from her sister Becky who tells her she is going off travelling and not to try to find her.
Amy is concerned that this is totally out of character for Becky and she sets about trying to get to the bottom of it, without the help of the police, who aren't remotely interested, but with the assistance of Becky's concerned and, Amy realises, rather hunky neighbour Gary.
Running parallel to Amy's personal investigation is the story of Detective Inspector Declan Adams who is investigating a possible murder, after the discovery of a body in a cesspit on a remote, abandoned farm. Naturally, the two tales converge as the pace of both investigations quickens and Amy finds herself in very grave danger at the hands of a twisted serial killer.

This fourth novel from Voss and Edwards felt a little sluggish to begin with, however the pace begins to speed up and the reader is soon caught up in Amy's frustrating hunt for her missing sister. The narrative from the killer's perspective is suitably dark and often gruesome and gives the impression that he really is cold-blooded and ruthless in his twisted quest. There are a few shady characters suggested as potential suspects


The blurb reads
He's posted on your wall. He's following you on Twitter. He knows where you are right now....

When Amy receives an email from her older sister, Becky, announcing that she's off travelling and 'don't try to find me', she is worried. Becky would never do such a thing on a whim.

Amy - who is recovering from an abusive relationship that has left her terrified of love - soon finds that Becky had started using online dating sites. Aided by Becky's neighbour, Gary, Amy sets about tracking down the men her sister had dated, following a trail that leads her into the darkly seductive world of Internet hook-ups. But Amy is unaware that a sadistic killer is watching - a killer who's been using the Internet to stalk, torture and kill.

Now he's got something very special planned for Amy, and she is about to find out that romance really is dead.

 

[cottonweaver]

AAArrrg. Just come back , assuming there would be loads of updates on Cambridge news and instead, just as Duchy predicted, they have shut up shop for the afternoon again. The book. :tantrum:

Anyway my first reaction is this is Helen's book and this is IS's doing. I do hope not but it's par for the course, he's been filching from that book from the get-go.
Just checked my emails next and had one from Stuart T's iphone at 7.30am - saying thanks for the information. ( Very polite of him really, didn't expect any response at all. )

 

[cottonweaver]

Yes. COTTON! where are you?!

Did you only mention the weather reports?

catching up with posts
- no I put it all in.

ETA I'd forgotten about sending it til this delay.

This new evidence: if it is Defence evidence surely it means the pros have a copy of the points they will raise by this afternoon.? Pros can't fly blind with their new points?

 

[Belgarion]

AAArrrg. Just come back , assuming there would be loads of updates on Cambridge news and instead, just as Duchy predicted, they have shut up shop for the afternoon again. The book. :tantrum:

Anyway my first reaction is this is Helen's book and this is IS's doing. I do hope not but it's par for the course, he's been filching from that book from the get-go.
Just checked my emails next and had one from Stuart T's iphone at 7.30am - saying thanks for the information. ( Very polite of him really, didn't expect any response at all. )

Perhaps it’s an extract from the recently published book, The Illusive File by Nick De'Ath and Joe Crapper