GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #9

[LBB]

There are quite a few but we also know she is no longer pregnant now. She is past what would have been her due date if she was 19 weeks in Feb/March but no details of if she gave birth or the pregnancy was terminated.




http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-stepbrother-6621107

How do we know she was 19 weeks at the time?

 

[Tortoise]

As I understand it, fibromyalgia is not a condition which gives constant pain but one in which the sufferer experiences regular "flare ups".

Matthews tells the court he has suffered from health issues.
He said: “I’ve always been in pain. When I sneeze I can collapse from the pain.
“I have a chemical imbalance in my brain or nerves which are sending the wrong signals to my brain. I feel a hot burning pain which stops you doing simple tasks.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

 

[Clio]

Shauna says it during her interview after being told what Nathan's done.

"We have our own little girl and I'm carrying his unborn children"

Just adding link

[video=youtube;qWCwj2K8WZU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWCwj2K8WZU&app=desktop[/video]

 

[ColourPurple]

Not directed at you ColourPurple but I HATE HATE HATE the Daily mail and most newspapers in genera, vile sensationalist headlines!

Psycho boyfriend - the 2 lovers -

A man this week was jailed for having sex with a 13 year old and 'journalists' saw fit to say "he bedded the teenager repeatedly over a 2 year period" - bedded? Try abused! :/

Don't get me started on the Daily Mail lol.

 

[Scorpio5]

Forgive the rookie question but in my head strangling or suffocation by using your hands should always be classed as murder because the killer decides not to stop the pressure.

Is there a legal definition of why it can be manslaughter?

 

[ColourPurple]

How do we know she was 19 weeks at the time?

I'd read 18 or 19 weeks but not sure where the link to that is so I guess better just to state she was pregnant at the time.

 

[Clio]

Is the ultimatum he mentioned supposed to have happened when he bought all the cleaning stuff or at a much earlier time? In his interview when they asked him how he explained the cleaning purchases to SH, he said he didnt remember but he'd have made up a lie about it. If he'd bought them in response to her giving an ultimatum he wouldn't need to lie about why he'd purchased them.

Quite. It doesn't add up.

 

[ColourPurple]

Just adding link

[video=youtube;qWCwj2K8WZU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWCwj2K8WZU&app=desktop[/video]

I wonder if she's asking where she was found in her house because she knows that isn't true. Remember she'd been moved from their house and was found in a shed. Not sure why the police are saying her body was found at SH's house.

 

[iclaudia]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

I imagine if pushed on the subject he will say as I have said, that the pain is not constant. I'm not saying that anything he says is true or reasonable; but that the people I know who have fibromyalgia are not in a state of constant pain.

 

[YidArmyRach]

Quite. It doesn't add up.

Quite a theme in this case.

 

[mrazda71]

The repeated purchase of clingfilm is going to be hard to explain , but will SH take the stand or will they have to make do with cross examinnig NM?

They didn't "repeatedly buy clingfilm" did they? I thought they bought 3 rolls in one shopping trip (easily explained by a 3 for 2 offer) and bought more bags and tape on a subsequent trip?

 

[ColourPurple]

They didn't "repeatedly buy clingfilm" did they? I thought they bought 3 rolls in one shopping trip (easily explained by a 3 for 2 offer) and bought more bags and tape on a subsequent trip?

I thought that originally too but after the 2nd trip where they bought more rubble bags and tape there was a 3rd trip the same day to another shop where they bought more clingfilm and tape.

February 21: The couple go to Asda in Bedminster and buy black bags, rubble sacks, rubber gloves, bleach and three rolls of cling film. They purchase £20 of electricity from a local shop.


February 22: They buy black rubble sacks, tape and a sponge from a 99p store and a Wilko at the Broadmead shopping centre in Bristol city centre, then tape and cling film at Sainsbury's in Brislington.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...enager-annoyed-rude-mother.html#ixzz3pmEmXd6a

 

[Clio]

They didn't "repeatedly buy clingfilm" did they? I thought they bought 3 rolls in one shopping trip (easily explained by a 3 for 2 offer) and bought more bags and tape on a subsequent trip?

Saturday, February 21
Matthews and Hoare go to Asda supermarket in Bedminster and buy groceries along with black bags, rubble sacks, rubber gloves, bleach and three rolls of cling film.
They then get £20 of electricity.

Sunday, February 22:
The couple make more purchases of black rubble sacks, tape and a sponge in the 99pm store and at Wilkinsons in Broadmead.
They head to Sainsbury in Brislington and get some tape and more cling film.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Becky-...nager-8217-s/story-27953184-detail/story.html

 

[Bethan]

They didn't "repeatedly buy clingfilm" did they? I thought they bought 3 rolls in one shopping trip (easily explained by a 3 for 2 offer) and bought more bags and tape on a subsequent trip?

I am sure I remember this being discussed earlier, and that they bought more cling film on a subsequent shopping trip.
Sorry I don't have a link for that info.

Clio, thank you.
You have provided the links.

 

[Alyce]

I'd read 18 or 19 weeks but not sure where the link to that is so I guess better just to state she was pregnant at the time.

I've edited my earlier comment to that effect

 

[KatieLH]

Wow, I'm ill off work so I've only just really woken up (at 2pm! oops) and I'm very surprised that NM is on the stand...wasn't really expecting this at all. So far his admissions are what I would expect them to be, though. Also I don't believe that RW misunderstood his threats at all, or that they were only meant to be jokes.

 

[Clio]

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 12m12 minutes ago
Court restarting at 2, @DarrenLittleSky will be tweeting with me

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 5m5 minutes ago
Court is back after the lunch break, Matthews is back in the witness box, hunched over the microphone once again #beckywatts

 

[Clio]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 5m5 minutes ago
Talking about the day of February 19 - the day he killed #beckywatts

Darren Little Verified account  ‏@DarrenLittleSky · 4m4 minutes ago
Court resumes with Nathan Matthews being asked about the day #beckywatts disappeared

Jon Kay Verified account  ‏@jonkay01 · 2m2 minutes ago
Nathan Matthews resumes his evidence. He's now being asked about the day when it's alleged he murdered his step-sister Becky Watts.

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 4m4 minutes ago
Talking about the day of February 19 - the day he killed #beckywatts


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 5m5 minutes ago
Court is back after the lunch break, Matthews is back in the witness box, hunched over the microphone once again #beckywatts

 

[Clio]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 2m2 minutes ago
In the car NM says 'I had a red suitcase, with a mask, the torch stun thing, hand cuffs'... 'I was going to scare Rebecca' #beckywatts

Darren Little Verified account  ‏@DarrenLittleSky · 2m2 minutes ago
NM says he had thought of "trying to scare Becky" for a few months, planned to "get her in the suitcase" then get her in the car #beckywatts

Jon Kay Verified account  ‏@jonkay01 · 1m1 minute ago
He says he took items inc mask, handcuffs and bag to Becky's house. He was planning to "scare" her.