GUILTY UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #4

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"The ramshackle hiding hole of Sara Sharif's evil father and stepmother.


From his flat roof, he said the family could see if the police were coming 'from all sides' with a clear view to the road.

When the cops were spotted, Sharif, Batool and Malik would flee into the cornfield by the house - along with the children - and crouch, hidden, in the humid conditions in the dead of night.

Their few belongings were stashed in Munir's car, 'parked in a safe place'.
He said police never searched the field.

He said:
'The younger ones didn't know what was happening.
They were scared,
they couldn't understand'."

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I would argue the point that her mother 'consented' to the children living with US and BB. Having been through family court as a parent, attended as a professional and a litigation friend, parents can face significant pressure to 'consent' ie if you don't agree, the court will make the order anyway and you'll get even less contact with your children. It's possibly a small point in the scheme of this whole tragedy, but I feel its worth sharing my POV and experience. JMO
 
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I would argue the point that her mother 'consented' to the children living with US and BB. Having been through family court as a parent, attended as a professional and a litigation friend, parents can face significant pressure to 'consent' ie if you don't agree, the court will make the order anyway and you'll get even less contact with your children. It's possibly a small point in the scheme of this whole tragedy, but I feel its worth sharing my POV and experience. JMO

Not to mention the psychopathic maniacal ex threatened her:

" He would threaten to hurt her, take her kids away. Olga was financially dependent on him,
he used to scare her saying she has no rights in the UK as she doesn't speak English that well."

"At some point he threatened her saying if she keeps getting on his nerves about the children some day she will be found dead somewhere."

 
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There is a huge issue with the UK family courts culture. Contact at all costs seems to be at the heart of it.
 
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"Sara Sharif murder:

who are the 10-year-old girl’s killers?

Batool only admitted the twins were fictitious in 2022, Sharif said, after he confronted her when he found a letter from her ex-husband begging to see his child.

The Guardian tracked down the man, who said Batool, whom he knew as Aysha Khan,
had duped him into believing the children were real.

The 42-year-old, who gave his name as Khan even though his full name was heard in court, was jailed for six years in September 2015 for smuggling heroin with a street value of £200,000 in mini-footballs from Pakistan into the UK."

:oops:

 
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Thank you jury, I'm glad to see those verdicts, exactly what I hoped to see. Hopefully the judge will be able to justify very long sentences.

Poor Sara, and poor all the other children too, going on the reports I've seen tonight. I'm glad for child Z that they were removed permanently (I wonder if they know they're related to Sara; they most be almost adult by now if they were 3 in 2010? Horrible thing to discover whenever they do find out), it's such a pity U and Sara weren't also never returned.

Having been homeschooled myself for a few years (by loving, caring parents), I'm all for it remaining available to those who will use it properly, but why oh why, if a child is seen with a questionable injury, and then removed into "homeschooling" shortly afterwards, does that not raise a giant red flag? Not once, but twice in this case? I don't think homeschooling should be allowed in such a situation, particularly with the history already known; it seems the school was doing its best to care for Sara, so she should've remained under their watch (or just plain removed from US, I'm baffled at how that placement was allowed to begin with).

Still, I'm glad justice has been done for Sara, over to the judge now.
 
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Also, can I just say that the man is clearly a complete idiot. His best course of action was clearly to admit to allowing the death and testifying against the other two. The Crown would probably have accepted the plea and not put him on trial for murder at all. He'd now be looking at time served or at most a couple more years inside, but instead he's probably looking at 10.

I thought that too, it would've been so much better for him, assuming he was not involved (and as I've said before, I truly hope he wasn't - two evil people and one cowardly bystander is much easier for my faith in humanity to accept than three evil people).

However, perhaps family pressure might have caused his silence; I was recently reading about a case where the perpetrator's sister went against the family line that "of course he's innocent" and accepted the evidence suggested guilt - and they cut her off completely for it. And just accepting the possibility of guilt is a step far lower than actually giving evidence in court against a family member, so some families would see that as a huge betrayal. Not everyone is strong-willed enough to go against the entire family in a close-knit family, so perhaps that's a possible reason for his silence.
 
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I find it difficult to believe Sara was in a fit state to video call with Grandpa on the day of her death.


JMO
Yes, I found that questionable too. Sounds in fact somewhat similar to what we were hearing from US originally about what all Sara was allegedly doing when he arrived home the day she died.

Hmm.

JMO
 
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For those wondering how this case is being covered in Pakistan, the linked article is written by correspondents Emine Sinmaz and Haroon Janjua in Islamabad.

On BBC live today somebody, I think Pakistan correspondent Caroline Davies, mentioned that the case was certainly in the Pakistan news last summer and again now after the verdict / coming up to the verdict.

MOO
 
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"At first glance,
it appears to be a heartfelt letter from a loving daughter to her father.

But in reality, Sara Sharif’s haunting note,
discovered only after her death,
was nothing more than a desperate bid for mercy."

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"Sara Sharif's Polish family

brand her killers 'beasts'

and call for them to 'rot in prison'

for schoolgirl's horrific murder."


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This must have been a hideous case to be on the jury for. They did a good job.

Hoping for minimum of 35+ years.
 
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I hope for a whole life order for Sharif
Around 30-35 years for Batool
Around 10 years for Malik
 
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I think there is a strong argument for giving Malik a life sentence (with a minimum term) and for giving Urfan Sharif a whole life order and I think the judge will seriously be considering both of those.

Batool can have no complaints if she is also given a whole life order but I don’t think she will. My guess is life with a minimum term of between 27-30 years. But I am no legal expert and that’s just a guess.
 
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Well deserved as they would be, I don't think there will be whole life orders, although I would be delighted to be proved wrong. I'm hoping it will be around the 40 year mark.

R.I.P. Sara
 
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Home schooling should be supervised by Educational Authorities.
There is basic compulsory curriculum for every level and the homeschooled kids must take exams at the end of each term (as is in my school).

Homeschooling seems to become an excuse for abusers to keep their victims prisoners in the house and torture them with nobody any wiser.

Out of sight
Must Not Mean
Out of Mind.

Every child has a right to education
and supervision is necessary.

Also,
Abolition of physical punishment is a must too in civilized countries.

There is no such thing as "legal physical punishment"
so eagerly taken advantage by sick abusers.

Just my 2 cents.
For the beginning.

And no, this is not off topic.

Sara was a victim of being taken out of school,
far from teachers' attention.
Teachers should call Police directly if they have any suspicions of abuse.
Just as doctors do.
(In case of minors)

These are basic issues -
for the sake of children.

JMO
Completely agree. And neighbours have a duty to each other. So worried about looking nosy in front of the grownups next door that they ignore the rights of the vulnerable minors. In Africa the saying goes: it takes a village to raise a child.
 
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I think there is a strong argument for giving Malik a life sentence (with a minimum term) and for giving Urfan Sharif a whole life order and I think the judge will seriously be considering both of those.

Batool can have no complaints if she is also given a whole life order but I don’t think she will. My guess is life with a minimum term of between 27-30 years. But I am no legal expert and that’s just a guess.
Yes. I wish murderers this age could be sterilised so they never parent again. Serial abusers like Urfan Sharif use, abuse move on and prey again, often using procreation as control. Six kids plus a seventh older child, as it emerged yesterday. Sometimes being locked up doesn't stop the pattern of behaviour. Wardens fall prey to charm and flattery by some of the most violent criminals. There will be victims everywhere he goes.
 
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