UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #7

[lee sumner]

Why not? He committed a rape in October. Zero impulse control.

yes, iagree. he has zero impulse control, and the way he walked into the boutique shop wearing a crash helmet on his head shows he stood out in a sinister way, which allowed the shop owner CC to escape. we all know he was probably going to rape the women in the shop, which is almost a repeat of the offense he was jailed for in 1981.

 

[Terryb808]

DS barley thinks the witnesses on shorrolds rd are credible. he never thought shorrolds was a mistake. he always believed she went there. so did SIO carter and DS johstone. these 3 detectives were the key players in the investigation.

He also said he thought she went straight to Stevenage Road, so maybe his views changed as the investigation progressed.

 

[lee sumner]

He also said he thought she went straight to Stevenage Road, so maybe his views changed as the investigation progressed.

i was going to say they were good detectives, but they never found S.L. they didnt solve the case.

 

[DCROBBO]

Hello all - just joined the forum.

I’ve been fascinated by this case for years and would like to chip in with some thoughts on the JC did it theory…

It may have been challenged previously on the numerous threads, but doesn’t the ND testimony that he saw a man on Shorrolds with a champagne bottle adorned with ribbons add a lot of weight to the case against him. This was well before he was placed in the frame by JD et al, so no confirmation bias could be levelled at ND?

 

[tes1984]

Champagne was a JC prop, but to be fair it could have been any yuppie type buying a bottle of champagne in Fulham that day.

Purely circumstantial, but perhaps yet another small tick against JC.

IIRC he also used an off licence alcohol purchase as part of his defence for Shirley Banks.

 

[DCROBBO]

He also said he thought she went straight to Stevenage Road, so maybe

Champagne was a JC prop, but to be fair it could have been any yuppie type buying a bottle of champagne in Fulham that day.

Purely circumstantial, but perhaps yet another small tick against JC.

IIRC he also used an off licence alcohol purchase as part of his defence for Shirley Banks.

True, but it seems a solid piece of the circumstantial jigsaw.

 

[tes1984]

True, but it seems a solid piece of the circumstantial jigsaw.

IMO it's a circumstantial jigsaw with a lot of JC shaped pieces.

 

[Klclevi]

I do not think it totally unfathomable that someone knows something even to this day and have never said anything.
They really should search that canal and put an end to that theory once and for all. Grow some balls UK police - if you messed up then own it even if it is 2025.
If JC did have a place in Fulham that was not his - in which to spirit her body, then someone must know something about that? Just my own thoughts!

 

[DCROBBO]

I do not think it totally unfathomable that someone knows something even to this day and have never said anything.
They really should search that canal and put an end to that theory once and for all. Grow some balls UK police - if you messed up then own it even if it is 2025.
If JC did have a place in Fulham that was not his - in which to spirit her body, then someone must know something about that? Just my own thoughts!

JD is adamant that part of the canal has not been dredged.

Also, the deposition spot is close to Gallows Bridge, which also fits with the JC mind games theme.

 

[Terryb808]

JD is adamant that part of the canal has not been dredged.

Also, the deposition spot is close to Gallows Bridge, which also fits with the JC mind games theme.

For once I agree with JD, the police AFAIK never reached Gallows Bridge. When I researched the routine for dredging back then the canal & river trust said it was approximately every 5 years.
Also back then any dredged material was deposited at a convenient point along the canal bank.
Today it has to be removed and disposed of correctly. It’s difficult to determine how long it would take for the bag thrown into the canal to disintegrate. After all we don’t know what material it was made of. Anyway after all this time it’s not going to still be there in any significant amount.
On this basis the police are right not to dredge the canal, they’d find nothing.
It didn’t stop them spend considerable time digging up JC’s mothers former home or sections of the country around Norton Barracks.

 

[RichardKimble]

For once I agree with JD, the police AFAIK never reached Gallows Bridge. When I researched the routine for dredging back then the canal & river trust said it was approximately every 5 years.
Also back then any dredged material was deposited at a convenient point along the canal bank.
Today it has to be removed and disposed of correctly. It’s difficult to determine how long it would take for the bag thrown into the canal to disintegrate. After all we don’t know what material it was made of. Anyway after all this time it’s not going to still be there in any significant amount.
On this basis the police are right not to dredge the canal, they’d find nothing.
It didn’t stop them spend considerable time digging up JC’s mothers former home or sections of the country around Norton Barracks.

If wiki is to be believed it was Cannan himself who intimated that those could be burial sites, although it's doubtful she's in both or if at all.

 

[lee sumner]

For once I agree with JD, the police AFAIK never reached Gallows Bridge. When I researched the routine for dredging back then the canal & river trust said it was approximately every 5 years.
Also back then any dredged material was deposited at a convenient point along the canal bank.
Today it has to be removed and disposed of correctly. It’s difficult to determine how long it would take for the bag thrown into the canal to disintegrate. After all we don’t know what material it was made of. Anyway after all this time it’s not going to still be there in any significant amount.
On this basis the police are right not to dredge the canal, they’d find nothing.
It didn’t stop them spend considerable time digging up JC’s mothers former home or sections of the country around Norton Barracks.

the canal was dredged back in 2014 when alice gross went missing. her body was weighted down in the canal by her killer. if SL remains were there they would have been found.

 

[WestLondoner]

If wiki is to be believed it was Cannan himself who intimated that those could be burial sites, although it's doubtful she's in both or if at all.

I reckon that was just psychopath banter from Cannan. He's living the rest of his days in prison, on prison food, wearing prison pants, having one shower a week and a prison haircut once a month. How else can he kid himself he's a winner, one wonders, other than by twitting the police and getting them to dig up random places? What larks! If he were a Spurs supporter, he'd no doubt have told the plod - or some stool pigeon - that she is buried under Arsenal's pitch. And then sat back to watch the fun as the bill dug their pitch up.

Being a card-carrying psycho, he could easily have done that regardless of whether he knew anything about the case or not. One thinks of the Ripper tape hoaxer, who disliked the police and knew just enough about the case to hoax them and make them look foolish. It gave him 25 years of laughs too, until they DNA tested the envelope he'd licked.

 

[Konstantin]

I reckon that was just psychopath banter from Cannan. He's living the rest of his days in prison, on prison food, wearing prison pants, having one shower a week and a prison haircut once a month. How else can he kid himself he's a winner, one wonders, other than by twitting the police and getting them to dig up random places? What larks! If he were a Spurs supporter, he'd no doubt have told the plod - or some stool pigeon - that she is buried under Arsenal's pitch. And then sat back to watch the fun as the bill dug their pitch up.

Being a card-carrying psycho, he could easily have done that regardless of whether he knew anything about the case or not. One thinks of the Ripper tape hoaxer, who disliked the police and knew just enough about the case to hoax them and make them look foolish. It gave him 25 years of laughs too, until they DNA tested the envelope he'd licked.

Plus it is well known that JC loved feeling superior to others.

 

[lee sumner]

Plus it is well known that JC loved feeling superior to others.

yes, the ripper tapes were obviously a hoax, but DS george oldfield thought they were real. the women survivors told oldfield the ripper had a yorkshire accent, but he ignored them. then went on a wild goose chase looking for a geordie.

 

[tes1984]

yes, the ripper tapes were obviously a hoax, but DS george oldfield thought they were real. the women survivors told oldfield the ripper had a yorkshire accent, but he ignored them. then went on a wild goose chase looking for a geordie.

The FBI also advised the UK police that the calls were probably a hoax.

The FBI said the Ripper would be a loner who wouldn't communicate with the police. They even suggested he was a long distance lorry driver.

Off topic a bit, but what do you think about the phone call in the Shelley Morgan case? A mystery phone caller appears out of the blue, and says Shelley is buried in water. A few days later, her remains are found at a place called Water Catch Farm.

 

[Klclevi]

I truly hope that coming up to the 40th year of her disapperance in 2026 there will be some updated information and documentaries. Is this still in the media in the UK ? I guess it was when JC passed away from google searches but probably now has faded a bit?
Unfortunately here in Aus we cannot even view Sky Crime or other documentaries as you need a Sky UK account (postcode based) or NOW account which is a bummer.
I have to wonder why sometimes only Richard seems to be the main spokesperson for the family? Why do the two sisters not say anything publicly? (all due respect to all of them btw). TL would have had more insight into her private life than anyone else in the family from when they lived together etc and seems to be the closest of the sisters. I know they would not want to reveal things about Suzy that may not paint her in the most purest of lights but who cares now ? So what big deal. It was her life . It is now 2025. What is important in 2025 is finding her remains.
There has to be more information somewhere. maybe its in letters, maybe its in her diaries that are now long gone or hopefully still stored.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Does dailymotion work in Oz?

A few clips/docus on here that you may not have seen?

Dailymotion

www.dailymotion.com

Are there any specific docus you would wish to see?

 

[Terryb808]

the canal was dredged back in 2014 when alice gross went missing. her body was weighted down in the canal by her killer. if SL remains were there they would have been found.

It depends exactly which section was dredged, Gallows Bridge is part of the river Brent.
Do you know for sure they actually reached Gallows Bridge.

 

[lee sumner]

It depends exactly which section was dredged, Gallows Bridge is part of the river Brent.
Do you know for sure they actually reached Gallows Bridge.

no, iam not sure. i will double check.