GUILTY VA - Codi Bigsby, 4, last seen at dad's home, Hampton, 31 Jan 2022 *dad charged* #2

[LovesPeace2]

I just feel sad with all this . This lil guy could of been gone months poor child deserved better jmoo

 

[PommyMommy]

A neighbor gives a glimpse into life at Cory Bigsby’s home | WAVY.com

Noting:

• A neighbor said there was little adult supervision.
• “This is an example of adults not paying attention to children over there. I never heard of an adult over there. I never saw an adult taking out the trash. I never saw anyone come in and out of there,” the neighbor said.
• But he could hear them — all day long and into the night. The neighbor said he would bang on the wall to get the children to be quiet.
• The neighbor would go to the Bigsby front door.
• “I banged on his door. He wouldn’t open his door to talk to me. It was always through his door… He would say he’s sorry,” he said.
• Another neighbor confirms the door never opened.
• “I didn’t know what Codi looked like until he disappeared and saw him on the news,” he said.
• He never saw the children outside.
• “I would yell ‘Let them go outside.’ I would yell through the wall’ like no kidding’ we have all these fields… Let them go out and play,” he said.
• The neighbor says the charges don’t surprise him.
• “Because all I ever heard was crying and all hours of the night and day. Just yelling. The kids were mad. Not the adults yelling, it would be children crying and stomping on the floor and you hear it all day,” he said.
• “I saw them one time. I was leaving my apartment maybe a year ago… They were standing on a dresser. Both of them in diapers, and they were just standing there waving,” he said.

 

[Knox]

A neighbor gives a glimpse into life at Cory Bigsby’s home | WAVY.com

Penny Kmitt@pennylikeacoin
CODI BIGSBY IS STILL MISSING. Tisha Hunt says her daughter plays with Codi in the neighborhood yard. She describes what went through her mind when detectives knocked on her door. https://twitter.com/i/status/1488503261296529408

Neighbor interview at twitter link. Is there more of this interview? She doesn't say when her daughter played with Codi, but this conflicts with what the next door neighbor said in the quoted article?

 

[MysteriousNoblewoman]

These cases with children not being seen for months or even years, keep popping up from the states. I live in a small Nordic country, but even when we take that into consideration, it’s just not possible to have children go under the radar like we’re seeing in the us.

We have so many different ways of keeping track of childrens well being, and first and foremost we have state financed day cares and preschools.

That means that people like this father here would have had an opportunity to have these children in a day care at day - and someone in that facility would see if anything sinister was going on. Everyone is also a mandated reporter and the neighbour saying he heard children crying day and night could be punished with a prison sentence or fine by not reporting it to our version of CPS!

I can’t believe it’s one of the most wealthy countries in the world, and yet there’s no support, help or even ways of keeping up with families to prevent abuse and horrible cases like this. It’s appalling. Of course it escalates when parents with little resources gets custody of four small children and no one bothers to check up on them!

 

[Laughing]

@MysteriousNoblewoman, those program do exist in the USA. They are voluntary here, the family seeks out the program, completes an application, etc.

Possibly in a situation involving PTSD or something similar, Dad wasn't up to following through with the process?

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[LauraAnne]

@MysteriousNoblewoman, those program do exist in the USA. They are voluntary here, the family seeks out the program, completes an application, etc.

Possibly in a situation involving PTSD or something similar, Dad wasn't up to following through with the process?

jmho ymmv lrr

Although we don't know his disability, I suspect he might have PTSD too. The neighbor's statements that he doesn't leave the home and doesn't open the door dovetail with the realtor's statements that he communicated through text instead of in person or on the phone.

One thing that was odd about the first neighbor statement: he said there was little adult supervision, yet when he'd bang on the door he could hear Cory's voice responding. So, he WAS there.

 

[MissMalowe]

...Of course it escalates when parents with little resources gets custody of four small children and no one bothers to check up on them!

<Snipped by me for brevity>

As someone else mentioned there are programs that exist. Additionally, as a Veteran, he would have had access to even more programs and assistance.

In the end, regardless of what safeguards or programs are or are not in place, it is ultimately the responsibility of the parents first and foremost to care for their children and to provide safe, healthy, loving environments.

Corey apparently has 8 children. Ensuring you have the means logistically, financially, physically, emotionally, mentally, etc is not an insignificant detail to be overlooked prior to producing a family of that size.

This guy couldn't even bother to get someone to watch his very young kids or to suck it up and take on the "burden" (his words) of bringing them along with him to run errands. He just left 4 kids under the age of 5 alone for long periods of time on what appears to be a regular basis.

This is a Corey problem. (And I suspect other parent problem) Not a lack of available resources in which the children and adults would qualify for problem.

<edited to add>
But I do agree, as a country, we sometimes don't take excellent care of the children. That's evident by the cases of children we often see in threads here sadly.. and I don't know what the answer or fix to that would be- but we also shouldn't be put in the position to HAVE to. Parents who don't have the ability to refrain from abusing, neglecting, or losing their children shouldn't have children to begin with. It's a never-ending cycle of an enormous lack of personal responsibility, accountability and self-awareness.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

HAMPTON, Va. -- A volunteer search team spent Saturday searching once again for any sign of Codi Bigsby.

Around a dozen volunteers with the organization turned its attention to a wooded area surrounding a business park off Neil Armstrong Parkway. The neighborhood sits close to Langley Air Force Base and NASA Langley Research Center.

https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/codi-bigsby-missing-volunteers-search-woods-near-langley-afb

 

[Knox]

Even his eyes are smiling in that photo, wish we knew when/where it was taken.

 

[Kingsley]

<Snipped by me for brevity>

As someone else mentioned there are programs that exist. Additionally, as a Veteran, he would have had access to even more programs and assistance.

In the end, regardless of what safeguards or programs are or are not in place, it is ultimately the responsibility of the parents first and foremost to care for their children and to provide safe, healthy, loving environments.

Corey apparently has 8 children. Ensuring you have the means logistically, financially, physically, emotionally, mentally, etc is not an insignificant detail to be overlooked prior to producing a family of that size.

This guy couldn't even bother to get someone to watch his very young kids or to suck it up and take on the "burden" (his words) of bringing them along with him to run errands. He just left 4 kids under the age of 5 alone for long periods of time on what appears to be a regular basis.

This is a Corey problem. (And I suspect other parent problem) Not a lack of available resources in which the children and adults would qualify for problem.

<edited to add>
But I do agree, as a country, we sometimes don't take excellent care of the children. That's evident by the cases of children we often see in threads here sadly.. and I don't know what the answer or fix to that would be- but we also shouldn't be put in the position to HAVE to. Parents who don't have the ability to refrain from abusing, neglecting, or losing their children shouldn't have children to begin with. It's a never-ending cycle of an enormous lack of personal responsibility, accountability and self-awareness.

I do think we have to stop treating a child like an individual family's luxury/choice and accept the fact that everyone's children are tomorrow's society. The children would benefit and we all would benefit from healthier, better-educated, emotionally stable children. There should be an investment in them to ensure that each child has an opportunity to excel. Think childcare, nutritious lunches in school for everyone (without the bureaucracy), safe places to study and be tutored, etc. It isn't always a money resource, it can be time, parent stability, drug dependencies etc across the economic spectrum. These children will be the cyber experts, doctors, teachers, spiritual leaders, as well as, rapists and murders of tomorrow. I have heard (not here on WS specifically) many people refer to "your child, your problem". I really don't think that is right.
And just to clarify, I'm not pointing this post at @MissMarlowe directly, but rather I'm piggy backing on the resource discussion carried in part by that person's post.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

HAMPTON — It was just after 10 p.m. on Jan. 31 when investigators gave Cory Jamar Bigsby Jr. a lie-detector test about what happened to his 4-year-old boy.

Bigsby had reported Codi missing from the family’s Buckroe townhome about 13 hours earlier, and had spent all day at Hampton Police headquarters answering investigators’ questions.

But just after 4 a.m. — about six hours after the polygraph test — the 43-year-old Bigsby and a Hampton police detective got into a shouting match over the results.

“There was a heated back and forth,” Hampton Police Chief Mark Talbot said at a news conference last week. During the argument, the chief said, Bigsby twice “indicated that he wanted to have legal counsel with him,” but was ignored.

“My assessment is that his desires should have been honored,” Talbot said. “They weren’t.”

More at Hampton chief says detectives ‘mishandled’ father’s request for lawyer. Will that harm case involving a missing 4-year-old?

 

[PommyMommy]

Kaicey Baylor on Twitter (Video)
Water Team Inc. has a team of four this morning to search a small wooded area off E Mercury Blvd behind Emmanuel Episcopal Church Founder Joe Slabinski says church leaders asked the team to search the property after noticing a lot of birds in the area recently.
8:10 AM · Feb 21, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Search for Codi Bigsby brings frustration to community searchers | 13newsnow.com
[...]

As each day goes by, Slabinski said things get more challenging. He said also said having little information on where to look for Codi has been causing some frustration.

“The chief needs to understand that everybody out here is focused on one thing, and that is to find Codi, but he has to give us a little bit of information to help us with trying to pinpoint where we need to be,” he said.

Monday morning, community tips led the team to search a small wooded area behind Emmanuel Episcopal Church in Hampton. A team of four went through the area a few times, but found nothing that would lead them to Codi.

This location brings their search efforts closer to Codi’s home on Ranalet Drive after the team focused much of its efforts last week outside of Hampton.

[...]

 

[PommyMommy]

FEB 21, 2022
The impact of social media in the search for Codi Bigsby (wtkr.com)
[...]

“I pretty much have adopted this child as if he was my own, and I will not leave him out here in the woods,” Joe Slabinski, CEO and Founder of WATER Team Inc. told News 3.

[...]

“We’re still serving; it’s just a new uniform,” Slabinski said. “All we know is there’s a mission accomplished or mission failure. For us, we’re still on a mission. Until that comes to an end, we’re on a mission.”

[...]

Karena Thomas is the founder of the online Facebook group True Crime Misfits. It’s a group for true crime fans geared towards creating pages to raise awareness for missing persons cases.

“Everybody wants the same, and they just want him home,” Thomas told News 3. “The first pictures, at least of him, were no smile - just a sad face. It just drew us to him, so we wanted to do something.”

[...]

Their mission is making sure Codi stays in the spotlight.

[...]

Slabinski said WATER Team Inc. will be out all week in Hampton and in other areas of Hampton Roads, including Norfolk.

 

[Turkeytrot]

https://twitter.com/HamptonVAPolice/status/1496226814351618053?s=20&t=tG4Pl_vZUQZv4_Ji8XxZkQ

Investigators have released an updated photo of Codi Bigsby, taken in June of 2021. The investigation into his disappearance remains ongoing.

This photo breaks my heart

 

[Laughing]

https://twitter.com/HamptonVAPolice/status/1496226814351618053?s=20&t=tG4Pl_vZUQZv4_Ji8XxZkQ

Investigators have released an updated photo of Codi Bigsby, taken in June of 2021. The investigation into his disappearance remains ongoing.

This photo breaks my heart

Mine, too!

June??? My baby is 27 years old & I have pictures taken more recently than June!!!

Codi, Sweetie, all you Websleuth Aunties & Uncles care about you!

 

[Nanceedroo]

Noting:

• A neighbor said there was little adult supervision.
• “This is an example of adults not paying attention to children over there. I never heard of an adult over there. I never saw an adult taking out the trash. I never saw anyone come in and out of there,” the neighbor said.
• But he could hear them — all day long and into the night. The neighbor said he would bang on the wall to get the children to be quiet.
• The neighbor would go to the Bigsby front door.
• “I banged on his door. He wouldn’t open his door to talk to me. It was always through his door… He would say he’s sorry,” he said.
• Another neighbor confirms the door never opened.
• “I didn’t know what Codi looked like until he disappeared and saw him on the news,” he said.
• He never saw the children outside.
• “I would yell ‘Let them go outside.’ I would yell through the wall’ like no kidding’ we have all these fields… Let them go out and play,” he said.
• The neighbor says the charges don’t surprise him.
• “Because all I ever heard was crying and all hours of the night and day. Just yelling. The kids were mad. Not the adults yelling, it would be children crying and stomping on the floor and you hear it all day,” he said.
• “I saw them one time. I was leaving my apartment maybe a year ago… They were standing on a dresser. Both of them in diapers, and they were just standing there waving,” he said.

I can’t even express how unbelievably heartbreaking this is.

 

[Gemmie]

https://twitter.com/HamptonVAPolice/status/1496226814351618053?s=20&t=tG4Pl_vZUQZv4_Ji8XxZkQ

Investigators have released an updated photo of Codi Bigsby, taken in June of 2021. The investigation into his disappearance remains ongoing.

This photo breaks my heart

That is one sad looking little boy. And he appears to have dark circles under his eyes too. Extremely sad.

 

[PommyMommy]

FEB 23, 2022
Codi Bigsby search expanded; police release updated photo | WNCT
A volunteer search organization helping to look for missing Hampton 4-year-old Codi Bigsby will search near one of his father’s former homes on Wednesday, after receiving calls from people who used to live near Cory Bigsby in Norfolk.

The search will happen near a body of water in the Berkley area.

Joe Slabinski, the president of W.A.T.E.R., tells us he’s received calls from some of Bigsby’s former neighbors pointing him to the area.

[...]

 

[MysteriousNoblewoman]

The “new” photo sends me all kinds of bad vibes. He looks tired, sad and frightful. No light in his eyes and no smirk. He’s 4 so I would assume there would be many smiling photos of a happy toddler, but we haven’t seen any. It also worries be a bit they blurred out the background - I wonder why. Is that really the latest photo? I have a almost 3 year old and there have been only a handful of days where I didn’t take a photo of her

 

[tlcya]

Penny Kmitt@pennylikeacoin
CODI BIGSBY IS STILL MISSING. Tisha Hunt says her daughter plays with Codi in the neighborhood yard. She describes what went through her mind when detectives knocked on her door. https://twitter.com/i/status/1488503261296529408

Neighbor interview at twitter link. Is there more of this interview? She doesn't say when her daughter played with Codi, but this conflicts with what the next door neighbor said in the quoted article?

I don't know if it contradicts or he just experienced the Bigsbys in a different way them the neighbor mom at the twitter link?

next door neighbor sounds like someone who doesn't have kids. How on earth would he know if one of the kids he witnessed playing outside his apartment was attached to the next door neighbor? He never saw them coming or going, only heard them inside the apartment. So maybe he never knew that Codi was one of the littles outdoors being supervised by the neighborhood moms while playing.

I do wish we had a better gauge on how long ago this mom/neighbor last saw Codi. I believe her, but I think her child played with Codi and/or his brothers when weather was nicer, meaning probably she hasn't seen the chil(ren) since summer or fall of last year.