What is your #1 indicator that Terri is *NOT* involved in Kyron's disappearance?

[Donjeta]

I think (hope?) that they're looking at TH and her friends for a reason but I have to say that the whole alleged conspiracy element presents a difficulty for me. It is easier for me to comprehend reasons why a woman acting alone might find motives to do something to/with a member of her family than to figure out why a number of her friends would help her to cover it up, whatever it is, knowing that it involves an innocent child.

 

[Sherazhad]

The main factor that points to her innocence to me is that everything before the abduction showed her as being a loving mother to Kyron. It makes no sense either that she would abduct Kyron, how would this benefit her? The landscaper is not credible to me, why did he not report this information before? Posters insist on her guilt by saying LE have not released all evidence against her? This maybe true, but we don't know this for a fact & I think there is no solid evidence against her. Her main problem is that she doesn't come across as particularly sympathetic or likeable, but I dislike this rush to judgment & demonising of this woman. It doesn't help find Kyron & if anything I would imagine it would maker her clam up, particularly if she is hiding other things, such as an affair, rather than abducting Kyron.

 

[Donjeta]

With the level of scrutiny she's been under I'm not sure how she'd have managed to hide an affair from LE. They know about MC and it was after she knew she was being looked at by LE. If she had had an affair before Kyron went missing she probably wouldn't have been trying as hard to cover her tracks if she didn't anticipate being a LE target.

 

[CarmelEyesD]

I don't think she is smart enough for such a complex plan-if it had been pre-planned, she would have had a better alibi. If an accident, she would not have been able to cover it up so completely and efficiently that LE could not figure it out. And she talks to much-she would have let something slip by now. I also do not see her friends covering up the disappearance of a young child just for her, and if an accident, again-I believe there would be some evidence. I think she became a target because of her lies, lifestyle and possibly an affair she may have been concealing. I think she may have some guilty secrets, but i don't think murder is one of them. Again, the MFH is not confirmed for me..it could have been as simple as a joking comment..'I'll give you a grand to get hm out of my life'-but not meant seriously. And I question that if it were serious, or the LS took it seriously, why it was not reported then. And yes, I do know woman who have said similar when angry at their husbands..one "jokingly' wanted someone to loosen her husbands lugnuts on his tire. This was 30 years ago, and they are still married-happily. She was mad that day, and of course, no one would have taken her up on it. I think someone as chatty as she was on her FB, and what seems to be art of the picture painted about her prior to Kyron going missing, she never met a stranger. I also think she may have, albeit inadvertently, introduced someone into her life who may have harmed Kyron..whether it be in FB, internet chats or in person-she may have attracted a pedophile. However, I believe more strongly that there is a predator who strikes and doesn't strike again for awhile,, and when he/she does, it will be another school, another state, and probably very far away from this one. We also do not know if she mentioned Kyron, or missing him, in the emails just released-they were snippets of the email, not the entire email. She may very well have expressed loss, tears and sorrow. Those parts were not released to us.

 

[Calliope]

Thanks, Carmel.

Terri talks a lot. Phones, emails, FB, texts, internet comments. And she doesn't seem to have good judgement when it comes to what's socially appropriate behavior. She truly does remind me of a jr high girl, immature, gossipy, overly-dramatic, cliquish; and the few friends who've spoken out so far give me the same feeling. IMO it borders on compulsion.

I am shocked that Houze has kept her muzzled so far. My theory is that after news of the sexts was disclosed, he threatened to drop her if she so much as opened her mouth or touched another keyboard.

I think if she is involved in whatever happened to Kyron, there are others out there who know, because she'd have to tell somebody. I don't see her keeping shut about it.

 

[gitana1]

To further your point, how often do you hear about a mother selectively killing one of her children? I know Kyron wasn't her bilogical child, but this is someone she had card for since birth. She volunteered at his school.

It happens all the time. One child is targeted for abuse, murder. Especially in abusive families, sometimes only one child is the target.
But, I think Th did take good care of Kyron. I also think she did not likely have the intense bond with him that most have with their children. It is possible that Th went wacky due to PPD and/or other factors and this caused her to eventually believe Kyron needed to go, for whatever reason.

 

[gitana1]

The main factor that points to her innocence to me is that everything before the abduction showed her as being a loving mother to Kyron. It makes no sense either that she would abduct Kyron, how would this benefit her? The landscaper is not credible to me, why did he not report this information before? Posters insist on her guilt by saying LE have not released all evidence against her? This maybe true, but we don't know this for a fact & I think there is no solid evidence against her. Her main problem is that she doesn't come across as particularly sympathetic or likeable, but I dislike this rush to judgment & demonising of this woman. It doesn't help find Kyron & if anything I would imagine it would maker her clam up, particularly if she is hiding other things, such as an affair, rather than abducting Kyron.

Do any of these hideous murders make any sense? scott peterson was considered a model husband. His in-laws failed to believe he could be involved for a long time, as a result. What was in it for him to risk the death penalty? casey anthony was considered a loving mother to Caylee. All the friends and family describe her that way. What was in it for her to kill her baby? I could go on and on. We cannot rationalize why criminals do what they do because we are not like them.
By the way, I have not seen a poster insist on TH's guilt because LE has released no evidence. They have given multiple reasons for their opinion and a lack of evidence does not seem to be the reason.

 

[KopDog]

After watching the press conference today and getting essentially verification from LE about her timeline, I continue to be convinced she had nothing to do with this. Essentially what she has been saying from day 1 (her emails from Saturday - just released) are all accurate. Based on timeline and locations put forth today by LE - she couldn't have been at Sauvie Island and so that info was inaccurate. He alibi is appearing to hold true. What am I missing?

 

[cypress]

After watching the press conference today and getting essentially verification from LE about her timeline, I continue to be convinced she had nothing to do with this. Essentially what she has been saying from day 1 (her emails from Saturday - just released) are all accurate. Based on timeline and locations put forth today by LE - she couldn't have been at Sauvie Island and so that info was inaccurate. He alibi is appearing to hold true. What am I missing?

I think it's interesting that Terri has had an explanation for her whereabouts since June 4, especially when Desiree's comments have indicated otherwise. Whether or not her explanation is believable is another matter, but she has seemingly held to this version of events.

LE is definitely indirectly confirming this version of events, either trying to prove she was where she says she was, or they are unable to disprove this version of events.

 

[Barry]

Great thread.

A couple of things are keeping me on the fence. Since the DA is in the middle of something with a GJ on this case, the questions being asked today at the PC lead me to believe they are encountering problems with the GJ (with whatever charge(s) that they are trying to pursue).

But, I chose the complexity issue. As it sits (at least as far as what is known to us), the timeline is quite tight to have pulled it off with a complete lack of evidence by one person alone. So, now you introduce the complexity of one or more accomplices, each of which would have to be completely unmoved by having harmed a child, and able to keep their mouths shut for this long.

This is what is keeping me on the fence at the moment. I concede that I would very likely come down off the fence if privy to all the evidence. IMO, I do feel TH was doing something wrong that day. Just not convinced of exactly what yet, and if it was related to Kyrons disappearance.

All MOO.

 

[nursebeeme]

I am not on the fence

not involved=not likely

moo

 

[human]

If Terri has an alcohol problem and I posted somewhere Dede's alcohol/drug arrest, their thinking might be clouded.

Perhaps that is why some things look smart and other things look?????

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

I made up my own option
Pretty much all of the above!

thanks Beane

 

[kappy50]

The reason I think Teri is NOT involved is because of Baby Girl! JMO....

 

[Sherazhad]

In comparing Terri to Scott Peterson & Casey Anthony there are differences. Many have spoken out about Casey not being a good mother, the main factor being she didn't report her child missing for over a month! With Scott Peterson, he was not yet a father. All evidence points to Terri being a good mother. If Terri hadn't been a good mother, or if there was even 1 incident of neglect, this would have been widely reported. After last night's press briefing I am convinced that LE have very little evidence & their main objective is to isolate Terri & pressure her into cracking. I wish that Terri would speak publicly, but there could be reasons why she doesn't. She could be depressed & mentally not up to facing the public. She has lost her marriage, children, home & is being demonised in the press. This would make anyone anguished. I am not ruling out that she was involved in some way, just that it doesn't make sense that she is, I think there is a lot more to this story that will eventually come out.

 

[Donjeta]

In comparing Terri to Scott Peterson & Casey Anthony there are differences. Many have spoken out about Casey not being a good mother, the main factor being she didn't report her child missing for over a month! With Scott Peterson, he was not yet a father. All evidence points to Terri being a good mother. If Terri hadn't been a good mother, or if there was even 1 incident of neglect, this would have been widely reported. After last night's press briefing I am convinced that LE have very little evidence & their main objective is to isolate Terri & pressure her into cracking. I wish that Terri would speak publicly, but there could be reasons why she doesn't. She could be depressed & mentally not up to facing the public. She has lost her marriage, children, home & is being demonised in the press. This would make anyone anguished. I am not ruling out that she was involved in some way, just that it doesn't make sense that she is, I think there is a lot more to this story that will eventually come out.

BBM. She did have a child endangerment charge for DUI with a minor in the vehicle with her. Not Kyron though.

 

[Sherazhad]

Thanks for reminding me of that Donjeta, it shows that she is capable of irresponsible behaviour with children in her care. I definitely see guilt coming from Terri Hormon, particularly at the first public appearance. I also saw fear on her face. I felt that it was about other things than Kyron's abduction though. I am really wanting to be convinced of her guilt, but there is something that keeps pointing me away, that makes a stranger a bigger possibility. As a teacher like Terri Hormon was, I find it difficult to imagine harming a child when that is your chosen vocation. I guess this shows we all have different opinions depending on our own experiences. I know teachers have harmed kids in the past, but they are very rare. The nature of a school is that it has to be an open, welcoming place, open to parents & visitors, this is why they have been targeted in the past . Also this is where you find large groups of children, you only need one naive child who will talk to strangers or wanders off to be targeted by an abductor. Particularly when there are more adults around who will be unknown to staff at the school, as during the science fair.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

I voted "haven't seen any solid evidence" because I just, well, haven't seen any solid evidence:crazy: It just feels like every time I have seen something in this case that makes me think that there is a strong indication that she could have done it (ie: the MFH plot) when I investigate it I don't just don't see it.

Anyway, I don't know if anyone else is interested, but so far 87 Websleuthers who have voted in this poll do NOT think that Terri is involved in Kyron's disappearance based on various indicators. 102 'Sleuthers that have voted so far in this poll don't see any indication that she is innocent.

 

[cluciano63]

I am one of the so-called "fence sitters", but that does not mean I think she couldn't be or isn't guilty. It only means I haven't seen proof of guilt or even one piece of solid evidence that says she is. So far, there is plenty of reasonable doubt for me. I have yet to hear anything from anyone that indicates that Terri had anything against Kyron, which surely someone would be eager to report if true. Not even Desiree could bring herself to say any such thing. But in a way, I hope it is Terri as that is the best chance for Kyron being alive, in my opinion, although I really don't think he is.

 

[Patriciao]

Some people like to be the center of attention. Is it possible Teri and DeDe are people of that ilk? They are intentionally vague so as to keep attention themselves. It sounds weird but there are people like that.