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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #16

    I'd need to know that he intended her to die and I'm not sure the proof of that has been demonstrated.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #16

    You don't do it accidentally. However, I think it's possible to grip someone tightly around the neck on purpose but without the intention to kill them. The intention could be restraint, to overpower, to gain control of the situation. I'm not saying this was definitely VT's intention but there's...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #16

    I meant not guilty to the murder charge.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #16

    I think if her neck injuries showed more force for longer it would be conclusive proof that he intended to strangle her to death.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #16

    I agree but in his frantic state of trying to silence her he might just have been trying to overpower her enough to prevent her from running outside screaming. His immediate intention could have been to stop the struggle and noise. His actions were completely unreasonable but I'm not 100%...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #16

    Lots of us said before that he'd make his story fit the known evidence and sanitise it to exclude any unknown negative aspects. His prolific use of "dunno" and "can't remember" about how JY sustained a fractured nose before death (which bled) and significant grip marks on her wrists just...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    If I were on the jury in this case, the main thing I'd have a problem with would be the amount of deceit practised by VT since he killed JY. Therefore, I'd have great difficulty believing his sanitised version of events presented in court and the repetitive "I dunno" and "I can't remember" when...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    I didn't see anything about taking her body into his flat - I think he said he left it there, went back to his flat and then having decided that her body in her flat with no forced entry would point to neighbours, he returned to hers to move the body elsewhere.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    I do think this is possible because she was a friendly person, she probably knew him by sight as her neighbour and it was approaching Christmas so (as I said before) I could imagine her asking him in with a view to inviting him and his girlfriend over for a drink at the weekend or even to the...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    The implication I got was that she beckoned him through the window to go to the door, which she might have done. I could imagine her doing that in order to invite him and his girlfriend in for a drink over the weekend or even invite them both to the party they were having later in the week.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    His story about misreading the signals after just 10 mins sounds plausible if he's socially inept but what happened after the attempted kiss doesn't ring true. He's missed out the wrist grabbing, the way she'd have fought hard, the reason for the nose injury that bled, the way she'd have looked...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    So how did she get a fractured nose before death and blood on her finger nails?
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    Well for starters he knew her boyfriend wasn't there when he walked past her kitchen window because CJ told him they had to help him start the car. Also, he says he was walking towards his car (on the road) so JY would have to have left the kitchen, gone up the hall, opened the front door and...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    I'd like to know if he looked up sexual conduct/sexual assault before or after the police mentioned on the news that the motive for her abduction and/or attack could be sexual.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    I wonder if Websleuths is found in VT's browsing history - I found it myself by googling the crime.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    VT told the chaplain himself that he wasn't religious.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    I read it was The Salvation Army.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    To me, all it confirms is that VT told the Chaplain he was going to plead guilty. What it also confirms to me is that prison Chaplains shouldn't be permitted to have "confidential" discussions with prisoners to the extent that they are able to withhold vital evidence from the police. If a...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    Why do you think it harms the prosecution's case? I can't see how it could.
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15

    When VT was examined by the nurse after his arrest, that was a month after JY was killed so would he still have a scab from a wound caused then?

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