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  1. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

    Ahh I see. I thought someone was quoting an LE statement, hence the quotation marks instead of the forum style bracket quotes.
  2. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

    Probably misquoted. I'm guessing he said "breached and opened". Breaching is something you do to a locked/bolted door with a tool other than a key.
  3. Batbrat

    TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #4

    New to this thread. Has anyone on the forums mentioned similarities between this case and the Wamsley/Hornickel case where a young couple had taken meth and died in a snowstorm? Does anyone know if Brandon was known to use meth? It's clear that Brandon is in a panic on the 911 tape, so I don't...
  4. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    While they didn't give specifics, they said the puncture wounds were "consistent with" tools that the suspect was seen carrying throughout the building in the video. Most people assume that meant the hammer - which has been variously called a rock hammer, masonry hammer, or claw hammer.
  5. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Thank you for commenting. Yes, I've contacted MPD. Yes, my info has been forwarded.
  6. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Yes, probably my comment. To clarify, it was not that she would be "unable" to put that type clothing on, but rather that her body shape did not fit the silhouette of the person in the video. If you measure limb lengths from joint to joint, height from head to hip to knee to ankle, body volume...
  7. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Respectfully, just because a person questions certain LE statements doesn't mean they think LE are "bumbling incompetents, or lying". That rhetoric feels more like a tactic rather than sound argument, considering most of us are aware that LE has altered or contradicted previous statements made...
  8. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    That doesn't appear to be the case. Well, at least not a lift of significant size. In order for a shoe lift to add that much height, the instep of the foot would appear thick. There are several frames in the video that show a low heel and an average-thickness instep.
  9. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    What's that old idiom? You can't get a quart into a pint pot? CT's curves would not fit into SP's pants - at least not around the date in question. Additionally, her upper torso and arms are too short to be the subject in the video.
  10. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    I won't attempt to answer for ardenmost. Answering for myself, one doesn't have to know what did happen to know that CT could not possibly fit into SP's outfit.
  11. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    I attempted to contact that Tarrant County investigation unit a few times, but I did not try the DA. I was unable to penetrate the first switchboard layer, being repeatedly told that Tarrant Co did not work on this case. No matter how I tried to explain, they simply would not forward the call...
  12. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Thank you! I have consistently arrived at 71" - 73" or slightly higher, based on a an 84" door installation. Subtracting shoes and helmet, my estimation without gear is between 5'8.5"- 5'11".
  13. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Yes it is a huge difference. I'll weigh in. I believe LE's original observation and estimate was pretty accurate. I can't say what they based it on, perhaps it was a cursory guesstimate. In an effort to narrow down the measurements to a more exacting range, they called in a team of video experts...
  14. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    I think it also works with the B & E scenario, though. Especially if you're trying to give weight to the idea that by going off before dawn, alone, to an isolated location, etc., puts you at greater risk to opportunistic crime. But as I see it, it's still deflecting - by partially blaming the...
  15. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    I think the conversation about direct vs circumstantial evidence is an interesting one. In the past couple decades, eyewitness accounts have been largely debunked as unreliable, while circumstantial evidence in the form of forensic science has become the gold standard for prosecution. Whenever I...
  16. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    So LE believes it's a female member of reserve LE?
  17. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Interesting. BB himself stated: "I was in Biloxi, Mississippi, about to go on a fishing trip down on the Chandeleur Islands. I heard about it this morning. I received a phonecall from a couple of (MB)'s campers, and had I been out on that ship, I would have had no contact for a few days." The...
  18. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    SP is the same person throughout all the videos. There are not two heights in the videos. LE is asking for the public's help to identify the person in the videos, not another unknown suspect. They claim the person in the videos (the one they've asked for the public's help identifying) is...
  19. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    I agree. I think if the murder was long-planned (I believe it was), it was going to go down rain or not.

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