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    GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 6

    Thanks for posting the videos again. NOW I see where people speculated on Mrs. D being weighed down. So here are my questions and thoughts (which may have already been asked and answered ad nauseum)... 1. If I had a deceased body on my boat and I rolled the body out of the boat and into the...
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    GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 6

    Okay, thanks! I had just seen a few posts that mentioned her being weighted down as if it were a known fact. I have tried to follow but these threads move so fast. Thank you for clarifying. I'm still leaning toward this being a thrill kill by an acquaintance with a morbid desire to do...
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    GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 6

    Quick question: Do we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Mrs. D was weighted down or did we come to that conclusion based on cryptic statements by Sills, body position, and when her body surfaced? Thanks in advance. :seeya:
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    GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 4

    Out of all of the theories out there, something like THIS ^^ is what I think happened to the Dermonds. IMO I don't think there was much more of a connection between the victims and the killer than there was in the above example. I feel like it was a thrill kill and anybody could have been the...
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    GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 1

    Started following this on my local news and I knew you guys would be hashing it out here! A couple of years ago I started having multiple break ins and even a peeping tom incident at my home. I didn't live in a million dollar neighborhood but a very nice neighborhood. Nobody could figure out...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #1

    No doubt. But plenty or people have done it. And if fighting for one's life comes into play, I could see it happening. It was just a thought.
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #1

    JUST MY PERSONAL **Theory** Opinion** Theory** Opinion** This is what I theorize may have happened: Whitney may have had an admirer from Starbucks. This admirer, like so many stalker types, misconstrued her hospitality and kindness and felt like she may have shared his feelings. He knows...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #6

    Evidence @ the lab to indicate they're alive... Maybes: Ransom note, runaway note, voicemail, txt message, video evidence.. What else could you have evidence wise to indicate that someone is alive? Nothing to indicate someone is dead and evidence pointing to someone being alive is very different...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #6

    This SO reminds me of the Lauren Spierer thread where so many people saw things in the bed of the white truck. In my opinion, looking at blurs on a security tape is like lying on the ground looking up at the clouds and saying what each one looks like. It's too bad the video is so bad. I hope...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    We have that system in place in my school district as well, but it can only really be enforced for checking a student out of school. After the kids are dismissed at the end of the day, if student is a "car rider", they go out to the car rider ramp where the looong string of cars are waiting at...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    I thought nothing of it. I just took it as an FYI to mean those were his days off & someone else would be holding the press conferences.
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    I wonder what makes the authorities so sure that Lyric and Elizabeth are alive. I wonder if they really have some evidence that leads to them feeling that way, or if they're just saying that to keep hope alive. Hypothetical scenario regarding smiling pic I could imagine a scenario where...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    I think she said they took her cell phone and their computer if I recall. They removed info off the phones and returned them and that the phones didn't work properly after they removed the info. I don't remember her saying they took her car, but she may have. As much as I try to keep up, I still...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    In the video, I saw one girl first and then the other who was trailing behind quite a bit. It's so blurry I couldn't tell who was who. The article with the video did state that the authorities have had that video for at least 5 days. That wasn't reported previously which leads me to believe...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    Okay, thanks for the link! So grandma time and video time are the same- check. Now as for the question the reporter asks, I felt like she said, "can you tell us anything about Misty's cell phone and car being towed?" or something close to that.
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    Thank you! So what do we take from this bit of info? G'ma was mistakenly off on her time? Fudged the time bc she wasn't sure? That certainly complicates the bikes on the trail sighting info- or does it? Does the video sighting coincide with the grass waterer's eye witness account? Gosh, where...
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #5

    I've looked & looked but i can't seem to find it. How do we know the girls were seen on video??
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #4

    I just wanted to mention also that I teach middle school and MANY times I'm totally floored when I find out what kind of home life some of my students have had. Most times they are remarkably well adjusted depite their home situation. Lyric could very well be well adjusted like many of my students.
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #4

    I think all of those different agencies may be there just to observe this state of the art equipment. Didn't someone mention upthread somewhere that there are only like 5 or 6 of these things? My opinion is that many of these agencies are just observing the cool new equipment.
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    IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #4

    No, it's just that the description of the clothing has changed so many times that everyone is getting confused as to what to be on the lookout for. I'm sure ANY flip flops found would be relevant, but it would be nice to know what to look for.

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