that Casey's family seemed to have been wondering if Casey might have lost Caylee at a mall. Cindy asked Tracy if she thought this might be what happened. They clearly thought this sort of thing would be possible with Casey.
The family didn't press Casey for information, it seems as if they already knew she wouldn't be able to provide any useful information. Only George confronted her the first morning, demanding info. The family and George's friend Jim stopped him from yelling at Casey. It sounds like the family of a mentally ill, or otherwise impaired person, like they know she can't help, like they know she's not all there.
For someone who is "not all there" or "mentally ill"(I am not picking on the poster...seagull...I know you are just saying they must see her like that to keep on protecting her) she sure knows how to lie: aka Zanny and every single lie she ever told to all her friends. She knows how to drive a car, go shopping, go on the computer, have a myspace, photobucket, she knows how to manipulate men/friends, she is "there" enough to smoke pot, drink, party, she knew how to be a shot girl, and to be "looking for a house" and to cook dinner for all kinds of people(shop for the groceries).
Casey told Tracy both versions of the last time she was with Caylee, i.e.: (1) the "dropped Caylee off with babysitter at Sawgrass", and later (2) the "I was at JBlanchard with Samantha and Zenaida and Samantha and the kids were over by the van, then S put the kids in the van and they told me they were taking Caylee and I had to tell authorities the Sawgrass story".
Tracy's story illustrating how Casey would contradict herself and not even notice, like the time she was complaining that she'd eaten so many chicken wings she was so stuffed, then also eating more dinner with them, then the next day saying to their faces that she'd not eaten anything the day before. Tracy said this sort of thing was common in her speech, she didn't seem to realize the discrepency or be embarrased by it.
The whole family: George, Cindy and Casey went to a family wedding with Casey obviously pregnant and everyone was questioning them...they sure were not embarrased by that...why would she be now?
Casey said Jesus O was not Caylee's father. Casey referred to Caylee as her Italian baby, and said that her own family is Irish and Romanian.
Tracy and Casey were watching a TV reality show where some teenagers were partying or something, and Tracy asked Casey if she was familiar with Ghb that she (Tracy) had used it (is this right?), and how little it takes to knock you out...Casey said, "like roofies" and Tracy said, "and ether", and Casey said, "and chloroform." This was before the chloroform discovery had come out.
Why would Tracy bring up Ghb?
Casey freely volunteered the information that she'd used the shovel to knock down bamboo shoots and to fish the pool ladder out of the pool. Her parents seemed to shake their heads when she was saying this to Tracy, like maybe signaling her that she wasn't supposed to be talking about the case to Tracy (?).
Ya know...I'd like to think that there is "something mentally wrong" with Casey but she sure seems like she playing right along with any excuse she has heard for herself. Or is it Cindy, George and Jose that tell her these things? If she didn't dig up bamboo, where did she get that idea from? Cindy. Is it because she saw a report that Cindy said that or did Cindy say it in front of Casey.
That Casey didn't show any horrified or upset reaction when she saw the TV coverage about the possible decomp signature in her car trunk, she only mentioned that lots of people had had access to her car, including JG. She did not appear horrified that this could mean Caylee was dead or that any person might potentially have been dead in her trunk.
And here again: she is sly enough to put the blame off of herself...she's not in some kind of "la la land" she is right there...knowing there was a dead body in her trunk and pushing the blame off on someone else.
thanks again Musikman
Hello WS
To continue my thought process from my post re: Casey is anything but silly.
Reading her text messages you do not get this idea about Casey. The little girl thing. Her texts to boys were quite "adult." I agree she is immature. But she is not silly. I think she is a master manipulator, a shape changer who changes with who she is with. I think Tracy was the silly one and Casey just went along.
Casey has played her game of "I'm so innocent" with the boys before. IIRC in one of the statements by AL roommate(the pot smoker)...Casey acted like she hadn't ever used a lighter before and even when they showed her she still acted confused and had them flick the lighter for her.
My cousin is like this, if she can get you to think she is "not all there" she loves it-but she is sly as a fox.
I think Casey is a product of Cindy. But Casey is her own brand of crazy. I think Cindy knows why Caylee was killed because of her and she has been distancing herself from her guilt by trying to make Casey look innocent.
Cindy wanted custody of Caylee. There is no way she thought Casey was a fit mother. What Cindy has done may not be illegal(it should be)but it is sure, in my book-amoral.
...jmo...
I agree with this. Casey "behaves" a certain way in her home environment and in the midst of her family and what Tracy witnessed WAS that behavior. She of course is no more qualified to analyze that behavior than any other layperson not trained in mental health, but she IS allowed to have an opinion of what she witnessed the same as we are. Her opinion may not carry much weight in court, much as ours would not, but she is still entitled to it nonetheless.
Hello WS
To continue my thought process from my post re: Casey is anything but silly.
Reading her text messages you do not get this idea about Casey. The little girl thing. Her texts to boys were quite "adult." I agree she is immature. But she is not silly. I think she is a master manipulator, a shape changer who changes with who she is with. I think Tracy was the silly one and Casey just went along.
Casey has played her game of "I'm so innocent" with the boys before. IIRC in one of the statements by AL roommate(the pot smoker)...Casey acted like she hadn't ever used a lighter before and even when they showed her she still acted confused and had them flick the lighter for her.
My cousin is like this, if she can get you to think she is "not all there" she loves it-but she is sly as a fox.
I think Casey is a product of Cindy. But Casey is her own brand of crazy. I think Cindy knows why Caylee was killed because of her and she has been distancing herself from her guilt by trying to make Casey look innocent.
Cindy wanted custody of Caylee. There is no way she thought Casey was a fit mother. What Cindy has done may not be illegal(it should be)but it is sure, in my book-amoral.
...jmo...
Hello WS
To continue my thought process from my post re: Casey is anything but silly.
Reading her text messages you do not get this idea about Casey. The little girl thing. Her texts to boys were quite "adult." I agree she is immature. But she is not silly. I think she is a master manipulator, a shape changer who changes with who she is with. I think Tracy was the silly one and Casey just went along.
Casey has played her game of "I'm so innocent" with the boys before. IIRC in one of the statements by AL roommate(the pot smoker)...Casey acted like she hadn't ever used a lighter before and even when they showed her she still acted confused and had them flick the lighter for her.
My cousin is like this, if she can get you to think she is "not all there" she loves it-but she is sly as a fox.
I think Casey is a product of Cindy. But Casey is her own brand of crazy. I think Cindy knows why Caylee was killed because of her and she has been distancing herself from her guilt by trying to make Casey look innocent.
Cindy wanted custody of Caylee. There is no way she thought Casey was a fit mother. What Cindy has done may not be illegal(it should be)but it is sure, in my book-amoral.
...jmo...
Tony is as human as we all are and no better nor worse than we. I also noted the "gushing" "oohing and ahhhing" type behavior but did not engage in it. I was more interested in asking him some real questions. I also do not believe that Tony would have much respect for everyone just kissing his feet either. I think he is a grown, responsible adult and when he registered with his real name he knew what that would mean and that is what he chose to do. I also believe he is entitled to the same respect and courteousy that we would show for one another-which is the upmost respect. Attack the post not the poster are words to live by and we should all follow this advice carefully. Personally I enjoyed debating with Tony and hope he returns for many more question and answer sessions in the future...especially in about 2 weeks as that is when he promised some things would become more clear to us all...so what THAT is? I am anxiously awaiting this knowledge!
Tony is as human as we all are and no better nor worse than we. I also noted the "gushing" "oohing and ahhhing" type behavior but did not engage in it. I was more interested in asking him some real questions. I also do not believe that Tony would have much respect for everyone just kissing his feet either. I think he is a grown, responsible adult and when he registered with his real name he knew what that would mean and that is what he chose to do. I also believe he is entitled to the same respect and courteousy that we would show for one another-which is the upmost respect. Attack the post not the poster are words to live by and we should all follow this advice carefully. Personally I enjoyed debating with Tony and hope he returns for many more question and answer sessions in the future...especially in about 2 weeks as that is when he promised some things would become more clear to us all...so what THAT is? I am anxiously awaiting this knowledge!
