Found Deceased CA - Audrey Moran, 26, & Jonathan Reynoso, 28, Riverside County, 10 May 2017 #1

[Beth11311]

Ugh all that makes me sick but seems to make the most sense as to why they're missing without a trace.

The scent being away from the car in whatever direction is what I can't figure into it. Why drive all the way up to Beaumont? Seems like if that were the case they'd have been forced to drive there and then get into a different car. But then wouldn't LE be likely to find some kind of 3rd party evidence?

Can anyone come up with any scenarios that tick the boxes of what we know?

Just a thought that came to me regarding the scent. It's possible that when they arrived at that spot, if alive, they may have been forced up into the field so that they couldn't be seen from the road until the other car got there. I don't know about just his vs her scent but that's the only thing I could think of, whoever these people were wouldn't want them standing there on the side of the road if the other car hasn't quite yet arrived...

The only other thought I had was that one or both of them tried to escape. Running up the hill towards the field...?


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[cvaldez1975]

Just a thought that came to me regarding the scent. It's possible that when they arrived at that spot, if alive, they may have been forced up into the field so that they couldn't be seen from the road until the other car got there. I don't know about just his vs her scent but that's the only thing I could think of, whoever these people were wouldn't want them standing there on the side of the road if the other car hasn't quite yet arrived...

The only other thought I had was that one or both of them tried to escape. Running up the hill towards the field...?


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Upthread I think it was explained that the embankment/field would be wide open view of all upcoming traffic.


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[2bees]

Upthread I think it was explained that the embankment/field would be wide open view of all upcoming traffic.


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Maybe he ran up hoping to get someone's attention? I think that's been mentioned before?

...Guedd that's debatable too though because the reports vary in the direction of the scent.

 

[Beth11311]

Upthread I think it was explained that the embankment/field would be wide open view of all upcoming traffic.


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It's been a while since I read through everything here - whoops. Then whomever suggested they were perhaps trying to flee, I think it's worthy of at least consideration.

They never brought cadaver dogs out, right


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[Cherry]

So shocking that they have not been found. I have questions regarding drug usage. Remember that case where a guy and his girlfriend ingested a drug and they ended up in a field so high they called 911? But they couldn't give their location and I believe they died from exposure. I am curious to know exactly who he lived with, did he have his own apartment, if he did; how did he afford it if he wasn't working etc. I also feel that if she did pick him up; maybe there was another person with them, one of his "friends" we know nothing about. She is really beautiful and someone may have targeted her; got rid of him and then dumped her vehicle. I thought this case would be solved by now!

 

[htiff]

"INDIO, Calif. - A flyer released Monday afternoon offers $10,000 for information leading to the whereabouts of a young couple from the Coachella Valley who have been missing for more than a month."


http://www.kesq.com/news/new-reward-offered-for-missing-valley-couple/551751840

 

[2bees]

"INDIO, Calif. - A flyer released Monday afternoon offers $10,000 for information leading to the whereabouts of a young couple from the Coachella Valley who have been missing for more than a month."


http://www.kesq.com/news/new-reward-offered-for-missing-valley-couple/551751840

I guess its totally possible that they chose to dissappear, though I'm sure no one really thinks that to be the case. It bothers me that reports still say "No signs of foul play". But I also don't know if I'd feel better for their families if it said otherwise.

 

[cvaldez1975]

bump for Jon and Audrey

 

[2bees]

Check out this new article... looks like her handbag was NOT found. This is interesting...

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2017/06/22/jonathan-reynoso-audrey-moran/407081001/

 

[bunnygirl2001]

Check out this new article... looks like her handbag was NOT found. This is interesting...

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2017/06/22/jonathan-reynoso-audrey-moran/407081001/

I read that last night. Interesting because in the preliminary reporting it was said - or at least alluded to - that her handbag was left behind. Now it's reported that her bag and wallet were never found. Financial records don't report any suspicious activity - however it's not made clear if either of their bank accounts or debit/credit cards showed any activity after they went missing. I presume not, but the inactivity of either of them attempting to access money over the past month is suspicious in itself. If there were no big withdrawals or purchases before they went missing that indicates suspicious activity to authorities, surely their stagnant accounts would indicate that they did not go missing voluntarily, unless they lived a cash only lifestyle. It's confirmed that Audrey's car had gas and was running fine, which further indicates that someone purposefully abounded the car. None of their friends and family down the 10 towards the inland empire (where the car was found) were expecting a visit from either of them and it's still not confirmed why Jon was in Brawley or with who. I am well acquainted with Jon's circle of close friends but I personally don't know ANYONE from Brawley or of anyone that moved to Brawley from the Coachella Valley that would have any degree of separation between myself and Jon. The Valley is a pretty close community and if you're a local, and especially if you went to school out here - you know EVERYONE. Even if you think you're meeting someone new, after a 5 minute conversation you realize that you either have mutual friends or know a family member, went to the same school etc.. so it's extremely ODD that no body - not even his close friends - can pinpoint who in Brawley he would be out there to see. And Brawley isn't a hop skip from the Coachella Valley- it's pretty far away. there's no reason for a person from the Coachella Valley - that has an abundance of restaurants, bars, entertainment, etc- to stumble out to Brawley unless they were going for a very specific reason or to meet a person who lived out there. Again, why those "friends" wouldn't travel to the Valley to visit Jon- where there is so much more to do - makes me conclude that if he really was out there that it was because of a certain circumstance that even the ones closest to him are unaware of.


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[2bees]

Stupid question but I'm trying to understand the direction... this report says both scents 20yrds west. Which direction is west of the car where it was?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Check out this new article... looks like her handbag was NOT found. This is interesting...

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2017/06/22/jonathan-reynoso-audrey-moran/407081001/

From your link:

"A bloodhound detected the couple's scents, but it ended about 20 yards west of the vehicle."

Which would be directly in front of the vehicle on 10 - not up the embankment as was previously reported. Almost as if they got out and walked, and then got into another vehicle.

"Cell phone towers never picked up Moran's phone calls outside of Indio and Coachella the night she disappeared."

And yet her car was located in Beaumont, 2 hours away. Which means, her phone was shut off before she ever left Coachella.

Nothing in this case makes any sense.

 

[bunnygirl2001]

Just a thought that came to me regarding the scent. It's possible that when they arrived at that spot, if alive, they may have been forced up into the field so that they couldn't be seen from the road until the other car got there. I don't know about just his vs her scent but that's the only thing I could think of, whoever these people were wouldn't want them standing there on the side of the road if the other car hasn't quite yet arrived...

The only other thought I had was that one or both of them tried to escape. Running up the hill towards the field...?


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The area where the car was found makes that theory hard for me. Considering that if they drove the car 40 miles east of the valley and not west to Beaumont (where the car was found) there is desert upon desert upon desert - a much more comfortable location for someone to force someone out of their car or commit a crime and go undetected. What bothers me about where the car was found is that although it was by open fields, it's a pretty heavily trafficked area- close to the banning jail and a short distance to town where sheriff and CHP vehicles can be seen patrolling any time day or night. It seems to me that someone got scared and dumped the car there - it's not the ideal location for someone to be perpetrating a kidnapping or crime especially when anyone local to the area would know of so many more other stretches of road that see almost no traffic or activity compared to the 10 W heading into the I.E. it's so perplexing because even though I can't wrap my mind around about there being an undetected incident where the car was found - that doesn't explain the scents... were items of theirs dumped there that were possibly later moved? I'm not sure but to me I feel like someone was driving their vehicle and dumped it there because they got nervous of how hot that area of the freeway is - my guts telling me that they weren't in the car when the car was dumped.


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[bunnygirl2001]

Stupid question but I'm trying to understand the direction... this report says both scents 20yrds west. Which direction is west of the car where it was?

West would be ahead of the front end of the car


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[bunnygirl2001]

 

[2bees]

West would be ahead of the front end of the car


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Thank you! If the scent was in front then completely makes sense that they got into another car, whether willingly or other. There almost isn't any other explanation (that I can logically think of anyway). Any other ideas??

 

[bunnygirl2001]

Thank you! If the scent was in front then completely makes sense that they got into another car, whether willingly or other. There almost isn't any other explanation (that I can logically think of anyway). Any other ideas??

I just went on a rant about how poor of a choice that area would be for a perpetrator to commit a crime undetected.. I just can't get over the fact that someone didn't see any activity with another car or people standing outside of their car at that location. Not saying it's impossible, maybe the persons just got lucky, but something's not right about that scenario to me. The only thing that holds credence is their scent being found there - but just because their scent was found does that mean their bodies were there - or something else of theirs that would leave their traceable scent? The dogs weren't blood or cadaver dogs- they were scent dogs, so is that conclusive that JR and AM were there or belongings of them were? I just don't know, but personally if I just can't fathom someone planning to do force people out of a car or commit a crime in the area where the car was found where they could of easily been spotted by witnesses or even LE during the act.


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[2bees]

I just went on a rant about how poor of a choice that area would be for a perpetrator to commit a crime undetected.. I just can't get over the fact that someone didn't see any activity with another car or people standing outside of their car at that location. Not saying it's impossible, maybe the persons just got lucky, but something's not right about that scenario to me. The only thing that holds credence is their scent being found there - but just because their scent was found does that mean their bodies were there - or something else of theirs that would leave their traceable scent? The dogs weren't blood or cadaver dogs- they were scent dogs, so is that conclusive that JR and AM were there or belongings of them were? I just don't know, but personally if I just can't fathom someone planning to do force people out of a car or commit a crime in the area where the car was found where they could of easily been spotted by witnesses or even LE during the act.


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Is there heavy traffic all night long? I'm not familiar with that area at all but maybe at that time there weren't a lot of cars passing? Also, maybe they weren't forced at that point? I can't wrap my head around the possibilities but I don't think it's impossible that they got out of their car and into another without it looking totally weird. I see cars pulled off on the side of the freeway all the time and never think anything crazy is happening. To be suspicious I would have to see someone getting shoved, a weapon or indication of fear from facial expression. But if anyone did pass, they would be seeing their backs right?

 

[bunnygirl2001]

Is there heavy traffic all night long? I'm not familiar with that area at all but maybe at that time there weren't a lot of cars passing? Also, maybe they weren't forced at that point? I can't wrap my head around the possibilities but I don't think it's impossible that they got out of their car and into another without it looking totally weird. I see cars pulled off on the side of the freeway all the time and never think anything crazy is happening. To be suspicious I would have to see someone getting shoved, a weapon or indication of fear from facial expression. But if anyone did pass, they would be seeing their backs right?

I've driven past that exact spot hundreds of times all hours of the day and night. There's a weigh station near by, a casino, and it's the only highway until it splits off to the 60 a few miles further west - so the 10 at that location is a main vein and even tho sometimes are busier than others, I've been in bumper to bumper traffic at 11 at night because of accidents, lane closures, etc - and again CHP or sheriffs cruisers patrol that area all the time. I understand what your saying - I see cars on the side of the freeway all the time and think nothing of it. The thing I'm hung up on is that if they were in the vehicle and forced against their will, why someone wouldn't have traveled the same distance from Coachella Valley to Beaumont (30-40miles) in the opposite direction where there is literally NOTHING. Surely if someone was planning to commit a crime, the logical place would be to travel towards the direction of miles and miles of empty desert. Although they could of been headed towards empty land - the 10 W can bring you to Victorville, Barstow, etc which is even further away from the valley and just as desolate. It seems to me that the location of the dumped car wasn't a planned out thought. If anything went down there it was because someone got nervous and spontaneously made the decision to stop there. That's what my guts telling me is the reason why the car wasn't found out east in the desert past Coachella, or further towards the high desert, where one would use the 10 W to travel to.


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[2bees]

I've driven past that exact spot hundreds of times all hours of the day and night. There's a weigh station near by, a casino, and it's the only highway until it splits off to the 60 a few miles further west - so the 10 at that location is a main vein and even tho sometimes are busier than others, I've been in bumper to bumper traffic at 11 at night because of accidents, lane closures, etc - and again CHP or sheriffs cruisers patrol that area all the time. I understand what your saying - I see cars on the side of the freeway all the time and think nothing of it. The thing I'm hung up on is that if they were in the vehicle and forced against their will, why someone wouldn't have traveled the same distance from Coachella Valley to Beaumont (30-40miles) in the opposite direction where there is literally NOTHING. Surely if someone was planning to commit a crime, the logical place would be to travel towards the direction of miles and miles of empty desert. Although they could of been headed towards empty land - the 10 W can bring you to Victorville, Barstow, etc which is even further away from the valley and just as desolate. It seems to me that the location of the dumped car wasn't a planned out thought. If anything went down there it was because someone got nervous and spontaneously made the decision to stop there. That's what my guts telling me is the reason why the car wasn't found out east in the desert past Coachella, or further towards the high desert, where one would use the 10 W to travel to.


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Aaaah I see okay. You think the spontaneous has anything to do with them realizing she has OnStar?? Maybe they were on their way somewhere else and noticed and quickly ditched? Anyone remember what time her family tried making emergency calls to her car?