CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #4

[Kaley Smith]

Onanole, Manitoba... what can any locals tell me about this place. is this a gateway to Winnipeg by any chance ?

No.

 

[Ooohm]

The weather sounds unpleasant if you are hungry and tired and maybe a bit underdressed for a wet, chilling wind. Hope it doesn't affect the scent trail for the doggies.

 

[Inthedetails]

The road worker who secured the scene prior to arrival of RCMP said that the window was broken from the inside, and that there was glass on the ground outside the van.

Guess we'll just to have to take his word for it and accept that we can't see the glass.

jmo

 

[tarabull]

Manhunt for B.C. murder suspects narrows to dense, swampy wilderness

from 1 hour ago

 

[tarabull]

Re: train to Churchill...fwiw

Stretch of train ride to Churchill cancelled due to track defects, further delays likely

 

[Moriarty]

Re: train to Churchill...fwiw

Stretch of train ride to Churchill cancelled due to track defects, further delays likely

They must have made those repairs because yesterday Global news posted a picture of RCMP searching a VIA Rail train at the station in Churchill.

 

[Moonlitnight]

I agree. I also wonder if the police know they are not in the area and are "focusing" there (while mobilizing forces elsewhere, possibly Ontario) as some kind of decoy. Of course, I am not aware of how many police are actually in Gillam and still haven't had my morning Java, so JMO.

 

[ld1891]

I truly do not think they are still in Gillam or it's environs.

1. Car was discovered burning at 1900H MST;
2. All sightings were prior to 1630H MST;

This is all the RCMP has to go on ATT, so they will continue searching for persons and clues. However, I think the greater likelihood is they found a way out and are lying low somewhere else.

 

[Deleted member 248860]

Manhunt for B.C. murder suspects narrows to dense, swampy wilderness

from 1 hour ago

Good video update. Gillam looking very grey this morning, consistent with the forecast (post #1199).

The video underscores that this is causing ongoing stress in the Gillam community and no doubt in the Fox Lake Band community. Lots of pressure on the RCMP.

 

[Bostondangler13]

2 men 6 foot 4. 170 lbs would stand out. This entire story has been bonkers. The last story that I couldn't take my eyes off was the Andrew Cunanan rampage over 20 years ago.

 

[Inthedetails]

I agree. I also wonder if the police know they are not in the area and are "focusing" there (while mobilizing forces elsewhere, possibly Ontario) as some kind of decoy. Of course, I am not aware of how many police are actually in Gillam and still haven't had my morning Java, so JMO.

The huge mobilization costs a lot of money and manpower. I don't think they would make such a huge move as a decoy. A decoy would be more show, less real, ykwim?

I hope these efforts are successful. I can't imagine how tense people in Gillam must feel.

jmo

 

[Dre]

I truly do not think they are still in Gillam or it's environs.

1. Car was discovered burning at 1900H MST;
2. All sightings were prior to 1630H MST;

This is all the RCMP has to go on ATT, so they will continue searching for persons and clues. However, I think the greater likelihood is they found a way out and are lying low somewhere else.

THIS!!!

 

[Gina20]

The ground in that area is such that it will be easy for a drone or dog to follow their footsteps, once some are found by chance.

RCMP is searching cabins and abandoned buildings, because they are more likely hiding places.

A CBC segment last night showed how quickly footprints disappear in muskeg. It's instant. I hope they kept to dry ground, for the sake of the searchers and dogs.

For reference about the rail line:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/hudson-bay-railway-history-construction-1.4712287

 

[Bostondangler13]

Guess we'll just to have to take his word for it and accept that we can't see the glass.

jmo

Everything about this madness dosent seem to have a rhyme or reason.

 

[Kubirai]

Mike Stack of Whitehorse FB Crime group first posted the photo, according to Jenelle Berreth, who posted the blurred photo in her tweet of July 23 at 11:07 PM.

An extra L shaped blur can be seen on the gravel, at 45 degree angle from the broken rear window.

Someone asked, but I can't find above details in any approved source.

 

[Canadagurl]

Morning everyone!

Been working like crazy the last 3 days and trying my best to catch up.
I cant wrap my head around this whole situation. How can 2 millennials evade LE like this? These kids are my sons age, my son is a gamer. I cant imagine my son stuck out in the woods for more then 12 hours. Most kids these days lack that skill!

I saw a blurb/rumour about backpacks seen in Gillam by a hydro pole, then they suddenly disappeared. Does this have any truth to it? Has this been confirmed as true?

 

[Bostondangler13]

I think they were just dragged that way.

Apparently they played with someone online who tolerated the Right Wing non sense until One day he realized how tapped they truly were. I'm not even sure what this detail has to do with the killings of 3 Caucasians but here we are.

 

[jmarshmarsh]

I'm thinking the confirmed sightings around Gillam have some details that indicate the guys were going to stay in the area. Perhaps someone had a conversation with them and the perps asked questions about the area, etc. They weren't known as suspects at the time and not everyone follows the news to match them with two "missing" people.

Part of me thinks they left the area on Monday but if RCMP thinks they are near Gillam, they must have a reason.

jmo

I agree. If the story of the woman giving them a ride is legit it meant they didn't have a car. But there are also rumors that the person who found the burned car said there were tire tracks out. But there are so many stories and rumours and a small community like that everyone is talking. I don't think the RCMP would focus so much on this spot if they didn't have a good reason.

 

[ld1891]

THIS!!!

I've been involved in missing persons searches before. Tactical trackers are pretty good at finding a path, even in bog/muskeg. Moreover, people tend to leave a ton of stuff along trails - candy wrappers, cigarettes, beer cans, wet clothing, bug spray, water bottles, shoe laces.

The police note that no cars have been reported stolen. Northern communities also have a ton of quads in them, which might not be under immediate supervision. A quad, with a jerry on the back, could travel ~200KM or more. These are easy to start without a key.

JMO.

 

[Deleted member 248860]

The huge mobilization costs a lot of money and manpower. I don't think they would make such a huge move as a decoy. A decoy would be more show, less real, ykwim?

I hope these efforts are successful. I can't imagine how tense people in Gillam must feel.

jmo

If this is a decoy, there will be hell to pay later. It would amount to scaring the hell out of two communities for strategic reasons. Not a chance.