Even though I know that does happen, it sure hurts my heart to read that.
And mine. That poor little guy, it's heartbreaking to imagine what he suffered. He must have been so scared and calling for his Mommy and Daddy too at some point.
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Even though I know that does happen, it sure hurts my heart to read that.
No, I heard it on a different HLN show than Nancy Grace.NG is the only news source that claims "lil sizzlers" was used by Childfree. They made that claim after the site was made private, so how would they even know? There are thousands of comments, so how many said lil sizzlers? Was it just a sick joke by one member?
I just may need to give myself a time out from this case. I keep wavering back and forth on whether or not this was intentional or just a horrible tragic accident. I am still torn on LH and whether she was complicit. I don't know what to think or feel about it anymore but I can't stop imagining what little Cooper must have gone through.
What is the "clincher" for you? What has convinced you of RH guilt (or innocence)?
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that's also a term used by gay men to describe heterosexual men........(MOO)
As someone posted up thread, LH seems dead on the inside. Maybe her life was so burdensome with RH's sexual and financial infidelities, a toddler to care for, and full-time work that none of that to deal with right now seems like a relief to her. I don't see her as scheming and manipulative- that requires a lot of energy and life. She looks like a shell of a person- a ghost.
ETA: I think her entire identity hinged on RH.
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got ya. I see now that he asked family to call the landlord. I knew I hadn't heard that before.There is zero evidence this happened. Detective Stoddard said he made three phone calls. One to his wife who he did not reach, one to his office, and a six minute call to the daycare center, room 5. His landlord may well be an insurance agent but we don't even know if that is the same insurance agent who handles Cooper's life insurance policy.
No, the coroner/ME would transport a dead body in their van for autopsy. It's never done by private car.That's what I would assume as well.
Unless (and this is horrific to consider) CH was so obviously deceased that it didn't make sense to call for medical assistance. After all, you don't need an ambulance to drive a dead child to the hospital for an autopsy. This can be done in a car. Maybe?
FYI, Androgel is contraindicated while trying to conceive. It lowers sperm count.
http://www.androgel.com/questions-about-low-testosterone-and-androgel
I am familiar with MFI (male factor infertility) from my research when going through trying to conceive my 10 month old. Thankfully that was not our issue- but a couple we are good friends with are going through MFI issues right now- her H has LowT which causes low motility sperm. Rather than use androgel (bc it kills sperm) the RE (reproductive endocrinologist) put him on Clomid to fix the testosterone and sperm motility issue (interestingly it's also used to trigger ovulation in females).
So there's my tidbit of information. They would definitely NOT be TTC if he was on androgel. And it would possibly cause issues if she was exposed to it while pregnant.
BTW I'm new here, so, hola! :waves:
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At anytime is it reported that LH ask RH 'what happened' or was there an opportunity for her to ask without an observer being present? At this moment, I have her moving from the 'left in the car' statement then seeing RH where she asked 'did you say too much.' If my child were dead, I would want to know what happened as soon as I saw the custodial parent but if I knew what happened that would not be a question; I would naturally move to the most pressing question.
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I just may need to give myself a time out from this case. I keep wavering back and forth on whether or not this was intentional or just a horrible tragic accident. I am still torn on LH and whether she was complicit. I don't know what to think or feel about it anymore but I can't stop imagining what little Cooper must have gone through.
What is the "clincher" for you? What has convinced you of RH guilt (or innocence)?
I, too, can't stop thinking of Cooper's suffering...
I'm not convinced LH is involved.
I was convinced of RH's intent to murder his son when I heard:
1. He researched the necessary temp for an animal to die in a hot car, and
2. He returned to the car at noon.
I would have convicted him on those first two facts alone. Every additional detail since has convinced me that he deserves nothing less than the death penalty.
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So LH did ask RH what happened?It was recorded and videoed as the reunion took place at the police station. That testimony was presented by Det Stoddard during the hearing.
Thank-you and Welcome My husband was given Androgel because he had, Low T, not for any other reason, like conception. I'm going to imagine it works for some men. The doctor was giving him the warning about being careful around me, and around children, our kids are grown, so that wasn't an issue. He became more aggressive, and there is a percentage of people that the drug can transfer on, I was one of the lucky people that this happened to. One thing, the smell is great, it is intoxicating. When my youngest daughter would come over, she would comment about the smell as well. I was pretty much smelling it all day, even when the clothes came out of the dryer and I would hang them in the closet, there was the smell. One of the side effects for women is growing excessive body hair, and sure enough that is what happened. I told him he needed to get off of that, it was dangerous. He did, the aggressiveness went away, only to make him a cry baby. I couldn't even look at him the wrong way and there would be tears. I begged him to go back on it, because the crying stuff was really bad. He used it again for a short period, went back to the doctor, and then that was it for the Androgel. I was really afraid that I was going to wake up with a mustache. It wouldn't surprise me, if Ross was using this at the time of Cooper's death, the defense will go with Androgel use. No way do I believe it would make you kill someone, but it really messes with the hormones. And it is dangerous around pregnant women, and IMO dangerous, period.
If the national press was discussing how I was under scrutiny/investigation and my hubs had already been charged, innocent or guilty I would for sure be consulting a reputable attorney. That's just me tho. Comes from being a WS who also works with lawyers and judges in daily life. My coworkers, bosses and associates in the legal field would surely question my sanity if I did anything other in that circumstance.
No matter what, it's a good idea for her to get a lawyer at this point. And it's definitely not proof of guilt. JMO.Joel Pugh, a Marietta attorney, said there are a number of reasons Leanna Harris would hire her own attorney at this point in the process.
“It could be as simple as her not wanting to talk to anybody and telling them to go through her attorney. It could be they have evidence that implicates her,” Pugh said. “It could be anywhere between those two extremes.”
If the national press was discussing how I was under scrutiny/investigation and my hubs had already been charged, innocent or guilty I would for sure be consulting a reputable attorney. That's just me tho. Comes from being a WS who also works with lawyers and judges in daily life. My coworkers, bosses and associates in the legal field would surely question my sanity if I did anything other in that circumstance.
I don't like him either. His face makes me want to just take my garden hose and shoot it at him or shave like a huge line down the middle of his stupid hair.
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I do not have a spare $20,000 or so to start lying around. I wonder what LH is going to use for money ?