Unfortunately that points to burning.The coroner said they would use dental records and Annie Cushing said the police had both kids' dental records.
Unfortunately that points to burning.The coroner said they would use dental records and Annie Cushing said the police had both kids' dental records.
I'm thinking they may have something to do with the backhoe.Thia is why no am interested in the two men in civilian clothes. They are standing together watching everything right up at the site.
The man in a red cap and camo cargo shorts, and the man in a gray jacket and black cap.
That makes sense.I'm thinking they may have something to do with the backhoe.
The MOST interesting day will be July 23!Is there more than one photo? I've only seen the one where he's pretending to play the ukelele and she's hula dancing.
I think there's merit to what you're saying. I remain convinced that she's crazy/homicidal and he's just ... I don't know. Morally bankrupt, delusional, and in way over his head. But that doesn't mean he's not scared s**tless of her. In a sense she has nothing to lose; she's already lost her mind and dispensed with her kids and her husband. There is no line she won't cross or hasn't crossed. If Chad messed with her "reality", she could have ruined him completely, before the cops got wise to everything, either by exposing all of them, or by having Alex kill him.
I don't think she has that leverage now, so it will be really interesting to watch what position their defense teams take come July 1st!
Ha! But serious question, now that CD and LV are locked up does anyone think there are still true believers right now? Like family, or true believer followers still waiting and preparing for that fateful July day?The MOST interesting day will be July 23!
I looked at the street view MOO it looks like a barn was there.Link to the WS post in question:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #30
In the second to last photo, am I the only one seeing a big stuffed animal head? Like a fox or a bear? At the top of the orange pile right in the middle. It looks like one of those kids sleeping bags or blankets with the pillow attached. The angle of this photo is great. I originally thought from the aerial photos that it was a plastic irrigation dam.
1) Chad and/or Lori. Some think it could have been Alex.
I am of the opinion based on their behaviour and how the bodies were dealt with that Lori murdered Tylee, and that both Chad and Lori murdered JJ. The viciousness of how Tylee's body seems to have been dealt with doesn't fit with lazy Chad nor Alex - who I think was having problems with killing Tammy and I think the kids are a shore too far for him. His other assaults and murders seem to be in their defense. Coming up with that motivation to protect children from abusive or molesting husbands isn't that hard for most people to imagine, whereas actually murdering an innocent woman and two children you've loved is. Don't see Alex being able to do it.
If Chad was challenged while killing Tylee he might have over done it then had to be a hero of zombie killing for Lori's' benefit though so I won't negate that possibility. But I think it was Lori - she is the only person to possibly harbour that level of rage at Tylee for growing up.
Tylee texted at some point that she was so hungry - I'm assuming that it is possible Lori didn't like how the extra weight reflected on herself so was starving Tylee to make her more in to a mirror of Mommy.
Whereas JJ's body seems to have had some attempt at an almost memorial style burial - possibly subconsciously done. Which certainly says some sort of regret on the part of the person burying him. I think that either Chad or Lori could have done that one.
Unless he was buried alive. While I don't really see what others see in the aerial photos ever since someone said they saw an arm up in the ground this horrible possibility has haunted me. I really hope it wasn't.
There are bricks in the photos which I keep hoping didn't come from the burial being weighed down and are just from the fire pit.
2) There is nothing to suggest how either of them died.
I'd put nothing past Lori in this with Tylee. Shooting her seems quite possible. Something that involves Tylee fighting for her life to warrant her body being treated with extra contempt.
JJ there is really nothing to give any ideas. Drowning children is common enough.
3) The children were murdered because Chad and Lori are horrible evil people and these children were in the way of their plans for personal greatness. Their deaths are tributes to Chad and Lori's willingness to take charge of the apocalypse and deal swiftly with the powers of dark spirits. Plus, they were in the way.
That's my take on it, but there is no physical evidence we have access to that would support this.
Oh, My Broken heart.Lori Vallow's son speaks out following discovery of Tylee and J.J.'s remains
Lori Vallow's son speaks out following discovery of Tylee and J.J.'s remains
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They had all routes monitored in case he bolted, which he did. Basically they let him show them his guilty actions.Hello all. I usually anxiously awaited someone else reply posting what I was thinking since I'm not confident enough in my memory to post. I've followed these threads since the remains were found and haven't seen my opinion or questions asked or posted.
I don't believe it was Chad who spilled the beans. If he had, I believe they would've had him at least in the back yard for further assistance. Maybe not at the digging spot, but by the barn? Back of the house? In a LEO car in the driveway at the back of the house? Which leads me to my question. If they knew or thought they were going to find something, why did they let him sit in the car alone? Wouldn't they have a fear of him bolting or trying to hurt himself? In past cases, if the beans were spilled, the spiller would be accompanying the investigators to the spot or an official would be with the spiller close by, even if as a support. Sorry if this was posted and I missed it.
MOO do you have a link? All the MSM I can find say only: one of set of bodies was concealed in a particularly egregious manner.Yes, we do. The explanation has already been posted so I am not going to go through it again.
They had all routes monitored in case he bolted, which he did. Basically they let him show them his guilty actions.
It’s a common problem for long-haul truckers. A friend of mine has dealt with it - actually changed careers.
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Wow! I wonder how common this is. We keep hearing about it.I think it could have been started/blended as a sex cult prepper offshoot that went too far, where Chad could be a "leader" and at the same time justify infidelity. Then he met Lori, and the two of them just spun out of control.. I think many people in the 40-50 age range get pulled into this as part of a midlife crisis. I can tell you that my parents (LDS) were approached by people in their ward of supposedly good standing (priesthood leaders) to participate in a complex "wife swap" about 30 years ago when they would have been mid 40s. Moo.
Comparison of CDs ChargesDESTRUCTION, ALTERATION OR CONCEALMENT OF EVIDENCE, Felony Idaho Code 18-2603
Count I (JJ)
CD...did willfully conceal and/or did aid and abet another to willfully conceal human remains, knowing that said human remains were about to be produced, used and/or discovered as evidence in felony proceeding...
Count II (Tylee)
CD...did willfully destroy, alter and/or conceal human remains, and/or did aid and abet another to willfully destroy, alter and/or conceal human remains knowing that said human remains were about to be produced, used and/or discovered as evidence in felony proceeding,
Note: CD did, and/or aided another to, conceal human remains (of JJ) and did, and/or aided another to destroy, alter and/or conceal human remains (of Tylee).
Case ActivityState of Idaho v. Chad Guy Daybell
CR22-20-0755 - Fremont County
>Criminal Complaint - filed 09:48 (s/Judge F Eddins)
>Warrant of Arrest - filed 09:48 (s/Judge F Eddins)
>Motion to Seal - filed 09:55 (f/R H Wood)
>Order to Seal - filed 10:16 (s/Judge F Eddins
>Bail Hearing/Arraignment - held @11:00
>Amended Order to Seal - filed 12:57 (s/Judge F Eddings/16:46)
Language: "sealing the affidavit for probable cause submitted with the complaint is necessary to prevent harm to any person or persons"
Note: Whatever was discovered this day--caused the judge add amend the order to seal by adding the language: "is necessary to prevent harm to any person or persons."
Bond Hearing/ArraignmentProsecutor Robert H Wood's arugument for the $1M bail
June 10, 2020 @ 11:00
(Not official transcript/not verbatim)
"uh...one of the primary reasons we are asking that bail be set a that amount
...is that the evidence that has been concealed in this case, its not simply a document, drugs, a gun, ah...these are human remains um…
...and we can, although those remains have not yet been positively identified...we are aware that those remains are the remains of children which we believe is an aggravating factor…
...ah we, we have asked that the probable cause affidavit be sealed but I would ask the court to take note of paragraphs 39 and 40 and the manner of the concealment of one of those bodies--which the states finds to be particularly egregious both an aggravating factor and bears on character..."
Note: Based on the condition of one of the bodies--it is alleged to have been done in an egregious and aggravated way--implying something was done that increased the injuries. Also, according to CD's attorney, CD waived his right to a preliminary hearing. Why waive your right to a speedy trial if you have any kind of defense?
**************** CONTAINS MY OPINION ******************
**I see matching charges in the short future of CD and LV**
I know Chad and Lori are considered innocent until proven guilty but based on the information herein, the hammer is about to drop.
>The Judge has determined that, if revealed, the information in the affidavit for probable cause to arrest CD, sealing it from public view "is necessary to prevent harm to person or persons";
>the prosecutor considers his actions to be "both an aggravating factor and bears on [his] character";
>the language in the criminal complaint alleges that he did the crime and/or he helped another person do the crime. The state is clearly hoping to break them.
Either way, the crimes for which they have already been charged, this barely the tip of the iceberg. These charges will not even matter once the next charges are placed. I speculate by by summer end. Just in time for the holiday season!
Without access to one another now that they are both in jail, they better pray those portals work behind bars. They will not be able to manipulate or prophesize their way out of this one.
It's awfully close to the burial spot IMO