Found Deceased MO - Toni Anderson, 20, North Kansas City, 15 Jan 2017 #3

[heartgoesout]

i keep going back to the early threads here and the different reports. based on something i saw on her twitter acct., some of it is possibly starting to make sense. there was a tweet from one of her friends who was wearing a quiktrip uniform in a selfie that appeared to be taken in the back room of the store. i've went back to find it, but now its vanished. in a early video report, IIRC it was stated that a officer observed her heading north on h-9 near the quik trip. hence why everyone assumed she was pulled over on h-9. what if she saw him in the quiktrip lot at the last second and switched to left lane (hear would be the illegal lane change and dispatch recorded time of officer initiating stop. she then turns left on 26th heading west, goes a little ways before turning around and heading back east thinking the cop should be gone now. only to see him come across h-9 and pull her over. I believe IMO that she was headed to that QT to hook up with that friend, for what we can only assume, but she to was into the edm scene. (the only reason this popped up to me was because of the tweet all of sudden vanishing)

Yep. And those driving actions would have made her a glaring pull over for police.

 

[perfectingpink]

This is now a public group.

#MissingToniAnderson

https://www.facebook.com/groups/360833074272964/

 

[Niner]

Her phone has not been found.

Thanks Skibs! :wave:

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Yes, her phone has not been found but was last pinged in Parkville (much more north than the QT but everything we know about her plans that night was SOUTH of QT).

Do you know anything about the Monday morning "ping" on her phone?? Time of ping?

 

[HelpingHeart]

i keep going back to the early threads here and the different reports. based on something i saw on her twitter acct., some of it is possibly starting to make sense. there was a tweet from one of her friends who was wearing a quiktrip uniform in a selfie that appeared to be taken in the back room of the store. i've went back to find it, but now its vanished. in a early video report, IIRC it was stated that a officer observed her heading north on h-9 near the quik trip. hence why everyone assumed she was pulled over on h-9. what if she saw him in the quiktrip lot at the last second and switched to left lane (hear would be the illegal lane change and dispatch recorded time of officer initiating stop. she then turns left on 26th heading west, goes a little ways before turning around and heading back east thinking the cop should be gone now. only to see him come across h-9 and pull her over. I believe IMO that she was headed to that QT to hook up with that friend, for what we can only assume, but she to was into the edm scene. (the only reason this popped up to me was because of the tweet all of sudden vanishing)

Makes me wonder if that's why friends were adamant that she was headed to the other QT. Maybe she was meeting that friend to hangout or maybe they were getting off work themselves and were going to hang out.


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[Niner]

The reports never said escorted, someone here has made that up. The reports were the officer directed her to the gas station and he watched from across the street she drove to QT and got gas and left. These exact words came from the chief of police. From a distance you can only assume someone got gas, I haven't seen any report from QuikTrip stating what she purchased or didn't purchase. So either the LE is holding this evidence or they haven't looked into it.

re bold - no, no one here made that up - see this video at :18 - :20 - maybe made up by the reporter??
http://www.kwch.com/video/?vid=411263755&vid=411263755

Oh - I just saw perfectingpink's post (#404) - so....

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I don't know how to bold yet.

to bold - first a [ b ] (no spaces) and then at the end of what you want to bold put [ / b ] (no spaces)

and :welcome6: to WS! :greetings:

I'm going to offer three pieces of evidence that the traffic stop lasted only 3 minutes. We could only pay attention to the last two numbers. The date and PM are wrong. This would put Toni in the QT parking lot around 4:25am. WTH is going on here?
-The article with the video says the stop was at 4:20.
-The video shows the officer's lights at 4:19 and Toni pulling away before 4:23.
-Officer Snapp said he spoke to her for maybe a minute.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...-2017-1/page41

on the link you provided - what is the post # that you are referring to?? TIA!

I thought that the unsafe lane change might have been a mid-block U-turn. I don't think we know exactly what LE stopped her for.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/KC-police-search-for-missing-Wichita-woman-411018955.html from link:

A North Kansas City police officer pulled Toni's 2014 Ford Focus over for an illegal lane change in northwest Kansas City. The officer gave Anderson a warning, then escorted her to a QuikTrip to get gas.

 

[AngelaH]

Snapp says Anderson told the officer she was almost out of gas, and the officer pointed out the nearby QuikTrip.

"So the officer just told her, you know, there’s a gas station right there, gave her a warning for the violation and watched her actually go to the QuikTrip," Snapp said.
http://fox4kc.com/2017/01/18/police...ans-steps-after-traffic-stop-with-nkc-police/

From the first thread. Kansas City Police Department spokesperson Darin Snapp

 

[melmel261]

Thanks Skibs! :wave:



Do you know anything about the Monday morning "ping" on her phone?? Time of ping?

6:00 am


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[heartgoesout]

Wow. Just wow on the FB link. All the drama I'm afraid will turn people away from a missing person and more of a soap opera.

 

[misslu]

Wow. Just wow on the FB link. All the drama I'm afraid will turn people away from a missing person and more of a soap opera.

I can no longer find the bring toni home Facebook page. Is it still out there? I only see the scam page and her personal account. Did they delete the missing page? Seems silly to me, to have the bf especially do an influx of posting and sharing (albeit mostly the ) only to delete everything soon after.

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[lmadler]

Yeah, it's a case of the tail wagging the dog, in my opinion.

This incident never would have been reported were it not for some suspicions involved in the Toni Anderson case.

It is highly unlikely it has anything to do with the Toni Anderson case. It's an outside possibility, but highly unlikely.

Most likely she voluntarily went missing on her own, or voluntarily met up with a bad dude. 99% it's one of those two.

I'm think along those lines as a good possibility.

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[lmadler]

Something to also note. Toni was a "bad" driver and gets pulled over alot. Suppose she is ADD, or a little dingy, she could have very well have been somewhat lost. How long had it been when she last slept. How long ,if, she is on prescription meds, had she took her last dose. If she took ADD meds and smoked pot and tripped, chances are good she has a bit of recoverable brain damage at the moment.
She can make money anywhere she goes, in various ways and go unnoticed. Changing her hair could drastically alter her appearance. So...did...
Did she wreck her car in this vast land?
Run off to Colorado and joined a commune? Yogi
Ran off with the music scene?
Car jacked?
Killed by a serial killer, blind date, sugar daddy, sugar momma?
Came back home?
I'm starting to wonder. Could it all really not be so complicated. Is Toni up there in the heavens saying OMG?
Is she sittin in a seedy hotel with a needle in her arm saying OMG?
We don't know.

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[PokeyMeansBusiness]

I can no longer find the bring toni home Facebook page. Is it still out there? I only see the scam page and her personal account. Did they delete the missing page? Seems silly to me, to have the bf especially do an influx of posting and sharing (albeit mostly the ) only to delete everything soon after.

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The name changed to #ToniAndersonMissing

 

[AceDetective]

Toni's story was just on KWCH and their reporters did an interview of Toni's dad, Brian Anderson. Brian said he is aware of rumors of Toni's phone pinging in a certain area, but LE has not told them this has happened. He also said he has nothing to do with the petition to see the videos and trusts LE know what they are doing. Lastly, the parents are supposed to have a phone conference with LE tomorrow.

Here is KWCH's link and I will post the story once it is available.

http://www.kwch.com/

Well this is frustrating!

This is what was reported about the cell ping:
"Sanchez says based on Andersons phone records, her last cell phone ping came from a cell phone tower near Parkville shortly after she went missing."
(source)

How would Sanchez, or anyone else, possibly know about her cell phone pinging a certain cell phone tower? I doubt LE gave that to anybody if they didn't give it to the parents. Does T-mobile provide that info to their customers? I doubt it.

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I am seriously questioning the validity of this last ping information.

 

[n_6CC]

Well this is frustrating!

This is what was reported about the cell ping:
"Sanchez says based on Andersons phone records, her last cell phone ping came from a cell phone tower near Parkville shortly after she went missing."
(source)

How would Sanchez, or anyone else, possibly know about her cell phone pinging a certain cell phone tower? I doubt LE gave that to anybody if they didn't give it to the parents. Does T-mobile provide that info to their customers? I doubt it.

<modsnip>

I am seriously questioning the validity of this last ping information.

Absolutely.


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[MaxManning]

Well this is frustrating!

This is what was reported about the cell ping:
"Sanchez says based on Andersons phone records, her last cell phone ping came from a cell phone tower near Parkville shortly after she went missing."
(source)

How would Sanchez, or anyone else, possibly know about her cell phone pinging a certain cell phone tower? I doubt LE gave that to anybody if they didn't give it to the parents. Does T-mobile provide that info to their customers? I doubt it.

<modsnip>

I am seriously questioning the validity of this last ping information.

BF had access to her twitter and other social media, and they likely even shared a laptop. So not hard to believe he'd have access to her phone records.

However, ping is a different thing, it's not something you'd be able to see from phone records online. (I could be wrong, but I've never seen that)

However if he did have access to her account online, could he request that information. Would a PI be able to obtain that information?

All just questions, I am now quite skeptical of the proposed 6am ping and question the motive if it's a lie.

 

[TopGun05]

BF had access to her twitter and other social media, and they likely even shared a laptop. So not hard to believe he'd have access to her phone records.

However, ping is a different thing, it's not something you'd be able to see from phone records online. (I could be wrong, but I've never seen that)

However if he did have access to her account online, could he request that information. Would a PI be able to obtain that information?

All just questions, I am now quite skeptical of the proposed 6am ping and question the motive if it's a lie.

They could have also used an app like Find my Friends or something similar. Maybe the BF and Toni had it together, and her last known "ping" was that location on the app.

 

[AceDetective]

BF had access to her twitter and other social media, and they likely even shared a laptop. So not hard to believe he'd have access to her phone records.

However, ping is a different thing, it's not something you'd be able to see from phone records online. (I could be wrong, but I've never seen that)

However if he did have access to her account online, could he request that information. Would a PI be able to obtain that information?

All just questions, I am now quite skeptical of the proposed 6am ping and question the motive if it's a lie.

A PI can not access that information. They can't even get phone records, legally.

 

[MaxManning]

They could have also used an app like Find my Friends or something similar. Maybe the BF and Toni had it together, and her last known "ping" was that location on the app.

From what I understand a ping is from a tower, and someone can ping from a tower as far as 20 miles away.


I'm not familiar with Find My Friends, but I'd think that's be a more precise thing that is based on a GPS location.

It's all speculation and quite frustrating since so much could easily be clarified, but I get the feeling it'll continue to be as sketchy as day one in regards to information.

 

[MaxManning]

A PI can not access that information. They can't even get phone records, legally.

Could a PI tell someone like the BF how to get those records?

For example, do we even know if they shared a cell phone plan? If that's the case, BF might have legal ability to go ahead an request whatever information he wants?

Just theorizing how he might get that kind of data. If it can only ever come from LE request, then sure... we should be very skeptical about him having ping information.

However, I think it's plausible that people living together to share a cell phone plan. Why? It can be cheaper. I have several family members that share cell phone plan, but I admit, I don't now how common that is.

 

[briigeee]

<modsnip>

I like to call it the "honeymoon" phase that families of missing persons go through when it comes to the investigating police departments. During the month in which the person goes missing, the family/friends are very trusting and cooperative with police. After that first month of little to no movement, that's when the families start getting frustrated and start to distrust and look for help outside of the legal department i.e. private investigators.


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