GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #6

[Dumbfounded2]

That is not a lot of beer for a large man over 5 hours.

Here is a link for a blood alcohol calculator. J's weight was 262 lbs on the autopsy report.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/bac.htm

 

[stephanddoody]

I found this interesting seems the FAKE NEWS Mary loves to talk about may have played a part in the Winston Salem Journal article published by Sexton that described Jason as a

bearish man

was looking at Holton Facebook page seem a lot of Holtons defendants feature on articles published by said paper and Holton promoting them All positive of course take a look . Seems to me there may a conflict of interest here
https://m.facebook.com/holtonlaw/?m...Fholtonlaw%2F&internal_preview_image_id&mdf=1
http://www.journalnow.com/opinion/c...l&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=user-share
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1082791128432894&substory_index=0&id=451041578274522

http://www.journalnow.com/business/...cle_4ed41cba-68a0-57dc-ab86-d2f5d082ff0b.html

http://www.journalnow.com/news/loca...cle_a4faa350-b89b-11e4-bca4-43e1c7c13fc7.html

https://m.facebook.com/holtonlaw/

 

[Electric Sheep]

Is it your theory that that is what happened or what they will allege happened?

What they will allege.

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[kittythehare]

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hyperthyroidism/basics/symptoms/con-20020986
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypothyroidism/symptoms-causes/dxc-20155382

I do not recall ever seeing a list of meds that jason had been prescribed..
if we could find out and we looked at tablets we could possibly examine whether his pills had been substituted with traz.. I dont know, sorry

 

[Dumbfounded2]

And US beer used to have a much lower alcohol content than irish beer, think 3.2% when I was there many many years ago.. dont know thats still true tho

Great question as usual. Here is a link for alcohol content by specific beer.
http://www.alcoholcontents.com/beer/

 

[kittythehare]

Great question as usual. Here is a link for alcohol content by specific beer.
http://www.alcoholcontents.com/beer/

Thats a lot different to 1978..
The specific name of the beer they were drinking was mentioned, possibly by the neighbour who was his friend..??

 

[stephanddoody]

Guiness red harvest and Misson pale ale

 

[kittythehare]

Thats a lot different to 1978..
The specific name of the beer they were drinking was mentioned, possibly by the neighbour who was his friend..??

If this is one they were referring to- 5.8%
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/8/80302/

not sure it was though.

 

[stephanddoody]

Misson pale ale is gluten free who would have guessed that would be the beer Molly brought ���� sorry don't mean to laugh

 

[stephanddoody]

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/209/98289/

second one is 4.1 . Going to leave the scientific part to kitty as I have no idea. The Misson pale ale was only half one each

 

[Dumbfounded2]

:loveyou:

Misson pale ale is gluten free who would have guessed that would be the beer Molly brought 😂😂 sorry don't mean to laugh

 

[kittythehare]

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/209/98289/

second one is 4.1 . Going to leave the scientific part to kitty as I have no idea. The Misson pale ale was only half one each

Love it!
BUT, to do this with precision,
i would need precise qty of alcohol consumed, think daily mail reported wine was also consumed later with pizza, not home made pizza at that .. the time he ceased drinking and have the blood alcohol level from tox, but do not have urine content or vitreous because they not contained in report
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-533d-86af-032964d7a959/56e1690d433ca.pdf.pdf

also need time of death and a good read of this again
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16782292

A maths specialist volunteer would be a necessary element here too..

We missing urine alcohol test result, vitreous alcohol/toxicology content.. the vitreous was always missing because i noticed it before and I wondered whether it had tested for any additional drugs

 

[kittythehare]

:loveyou:

Here is the problem
conflicts with what i found before
. The possibility of alcohol being produced in the body after death, e.g. via microbial contamination and fermentation is a recurring issue in routine casework. If ethanol remains unabsorbed in the stomach at the time of death, this raises the possibility of continued local diffusion into surrounding tissues and central blood after death. Skull trauma often renders a person unconscious for several hours before death, during whi
ch time the BAC continues to decrease owing to metabolism in the liver.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16782292

cannot calculate without an estimate of time first head injury blow was given.
Really stuck now.

 

[peregrino]

I have chosen a seat in the back of the courtroom. I chose it for the view of the defendents. It does not give me a clear view of Jury at all times. I couldn't say if they are watching MM or TM. The Corbett family is seated on the front row closest to the jury. I can't imagine the jury not noticing their sadness. All just my opinion.

I am so glad that you and your family have - bravely, in my opinion - chosen to bear witness. It is because of actions like yours, irrespective of what the verdict is, there will be a true account of the crime commited IMO. For that, if for nothing else, I thank you, and salute your integrity and courage.

 

[stephanddoody]

Here is the problem
conflicts with what i found before
. The possibility of alcohol being produced in the body after death, e.g. via microbial contamination and fermentation is a recurring issue in routine casework. If ethanol remains unabsorbed in the stomach at the time of death, this raises the possibility of continued local diffusion into surrounding tissues and central blood after death. Skull trauma often renders a person unconscious for several hours before death, during whi
ch time the BAC continues to decrease owing to metabolism in the liver.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16782292

cannot calculate without an estimate of time first head injury blow was given.
Really stuck now.

I think you have answered your own question kitty . Jason was unconscious a lot longer than was reported by Molly

http://www.thejournal.ie/jason-corbett-trial-paramedic-3518343-Jul2017/

Hackworth testified that she told police Sergeant Barry Alphin about the cool torso and asked him how long Molly Corbett and Martens waited to call 911. Hackworth testified that Alphin responded by saying Martens and Molly Corbett called 911 as soon as Jason Corbett “went down”.

 

[Mom2catieandtwins]

And US beer used to have a much lower alcohol content than irish beer, think 3.2% when I was there many many years ago.. dont know thats still true tho

I personally drink cheap American beer. It is not the same as the dark beer my husband drinks .

 

[kittythehare]

I think you have answered your own question kitty . Jason was unconscious a lot longer than was reported by Molly

http://www.thejournal.ie/jason-corbett-trial-paramedic-3518343-Jul2017/

She did say just before we contacted you, actually..

That is completely outrageous.... all that blood, all those blows.. and she said he didn't lose consciousness until just before they contacted eMT's.. until they were sure he was dead, in other words

saw no reason to contact a doctor earlier?
What was she on?
Could anybody really be that drunk that they wouldn't see a problem with the injuries they had caused another human being?

Were they so drunk they could not tell whether his chest was rising and falling or not?
Both of them?

Look at the crimescene as described in mail article.. just look and tell me that all happened in 5 minutes? It most certainly did not. That is evidence of a SUSTAINED vicious frenzied savage attack.

 

[Dumbfounded2]

Here is the problem
conflicts with what i found before
. The possibility of alcohol being produced in the body after death, e.g. via microbial contamination and fermentation is a recurring issue in routine casework. If ethanol remains unabsorbed in the stomach at the time of death, this raises the possibility of continued local diffusion into surrounding tissues and central blood after death. Skull trauma often renders a person unconscious for several hours before death, during whi
ch time the BAC continues to decrease owing to metabolism in the liver.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16782292

cannot calculate without an estimate of time first head injury blow was given.
Really stuck now.

Excellent post and question. Not sure but thought that the link for the blood alcohol content is for the average person based on their weight, the volume of alcohol, alcohol content, over a period of time. Not based on trauma. In other words, in my small mind, this BAC calculator might give us an idea what a person similar to J with a certain weight, volume of alcohol, and alcohol content, over a period of time, might be expected to exhibit BEFORE the trauma. Is he totaled, or just a little tipsy. Just a means to try to understand what might be expected for average person based on the values entered. Not sure that this calculator is meant to assist in determining the BAC for someone so decimated as J was. In other words, this BAC calculator does not appear to incorporate trauma. I thought it might help us understand the state that J was in BEFORE or DURING the attack. Just a way to try to understand what the average person might be expected to encounter based on the values entered. Of course, sometimes I get lost.

 

[kittythehare]

Excellent post and question. Not sure but thought that the link for the blood alcohol content is for the average person based on their weight, the volume of alcohol, alcohol content, over a period of time. Not based on trauma. In other words, in my small mind, this BAC calculator might give us an idea what a person similar to J with a certain weight, volume of alcohol, and alcohol content, over a period of time, might be expected to exhibit BEFORE the trauma. Is he totaled, or just a little tipsy. Just a means to try to understand what might be expected for average person based on the values entered. Not sure that this calculator is meant to assist in determining the BAC for someone so decimated as J was. In other words, this BAC calculator does not appear to incorporate trauma. I thought it might help us understand the state that J was in BEFORE or DURING the attack. Just a way to try to understand what the average person might be expected to encounter based on the values entered. Of course, sometimes I get lost.

Not scientific, but for an Irish person, he didn't have much alcohol at all.. possibly enough to ensure he had a good night's sleep.. but not falling over or even close..

20mg/dl as per tox blood report.. sample was not taken from brain blood though..
The greens in the autopsy are an essential calculation in relation to last time he ate.. was alive, conscious.. difficult calculation as well..
A lot hinges on that time window.. his last known movements and the time they occurred..there was no alcohol detected in his stomach contents from what i remember. Chyme.. undigested greens.. different locations in stomach.. indicative of different time of ingestion.. unspecific..
Thanks for the nudge.. appreciate it..

 

[Jennifer17]

Excellent post and question. Not sure but thought that the link for the blood alcohol content is for the average person based on their weight, the volume of alcohol, alcohol content, over a period of time. Not based on trauma. In other words, in my small mind, this BAC calculator might give us an idea what a person similar to J with a certain weight, volume of alcohol, and alcohol content, over a period of time, might be expected to exhibit BEFORE the trauma. Is he totaled, or just a little tipsy. Just a means to try to understand what might be expected for average person based on the values entered. Not sure that this calculator is meant to assist in determining the BAC for someone so decimated as J was. In other words, this BAC calculator does not appear to incorporate trauma. I thought it might help us understand the state that J was in BEFORE or DURING the attack. Just a way to try to understand what the average person might be expected to encounter based on the values entered. Of course, sometimes I get lost.

My ex was a beer drinker, never drank anything else. He was not a heavy drinker but at a party or after golf, once a week he would drink 6 or 7 beers in probably a shorter time frame than and would not even obviously tipsy. He was 6'2" and about 210 to 220lbs.

ETA. TM could have been more affected than JC. I have noticed that alcohol affects me more, now that I am older than it did when I was younger.