NC NC - Madalina Cojocari, 11, parents reported missing Dec 15, last seen at home, Cornelius, 23 Nov 2022

[SherryLock]

I'm wondering if this couple are even still locked up. If their bail is $200,000 (him) and $250,000 (her), that's only $20,000 and $25,000 for them to bond out. Which doesn't really seem like that much for them to be able to come up with, considering the house they live in.

ETA: According to the jail website, he hasn't been released yet.

https://inmateinquiryweb.mecklenburgcountync.gov/Inmate/Details?pid=0000502290&jid=22-049331&activeOnly=False&firstName=Christopher&lastName=Palmiter&prisType=ALL&maxrows=48&page=1

She hasn't been released either, according to the jail website.

https://inmateinquiryweb.mecklenburgcountync.gov/Inmate/Details?pid=0000502296&jid=22-049732&activeOnly=False&firstName=Diana&lastName=Cojocari&prisType=ALL&maxrows=48&page=1

 

[katydid23]

I'm wondering if this couple are even still locked up. If their bail is $200,000 (him) and $250,000 (her), that's only $20,000 and $25,000 for them to bond out. Which doesn't really seem like that much for them to be able to come up with, considering the house they live in.

I guess we will find out about him tomorrow, if he does have a hearing. He will either come in escorted from an inside door, wearing orange---or will come in off the street wearing casual clothes.

 

[simlyme]

The video on DC's facebook that a few of you are speaking about,is that in English ? Or is there a translation somewhere ? Where can I find it in english ?

 

[SherryLock]

I guess we will find out about him tomorrow, if he does have a hearing. He will either come in escorted from an inside door, wearing orange---or will come in off the street wearing casual clothes.

According to the links I posted above (post #841), it looks like they both have hearings at 9 a.m. tomorrow morning.

 

[KPO]

I don't even believe DC when she says that Madalina went missing the morning of the 24th when her husband just happened to be driving to Michigan. Madalina had missed school on November 22nd. The last verified time that she was seen outside of the home was November 21st.

CP said that he hadn't seen Madalina that entire week (which was a really strange thing to say).

It's entirely plausible that something happened to Madalina as early as the evening of the 21st. Maybe the spouse's argument was about whether to report it or whether to cover it up. Unfortunately, I do think that Madalina is dead and I do believe that CP dropped her body somewhere between NC and Michigan.

Sadly, I do think that they could get away with it if the body isn't found simply because it's just a guess as to which one of them harmed the girl and there may be very little evidence in the house since they had weeks to dispose of things and clean. Maybe a cadaver dog will pick up a scent in CP's car. Maybe traces of what occurred will be found in the fire pit remnants. Maybe both parents will fail lie detector tests. But without a confession and/or a body, it will be really difficult to prosecute (IMO).

I hope that I'm wrong about everything.

 

[SherryLock]

The video on DC's facebook that a few of you are speaking about,is that in English ? Or is there a translation somewhere ? Where can I find it in english ?

Here's the link, if you mean the video where DC talks about violence. It's in English.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3033840259985397

 

[KPO]

The video on DC's facebook that a few of you are speaking about,is that in English ? Or is there a translation somewhere ? Where can I find it in english ?

A couple of her videos are in English.

 

[Megnut]

Here's the link, if you mean the video where DC talks about violence. It's in English.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3033840259985397

Is it just me, that sounds like a recitation to me.

I wonder if it's a traceable script.

Indoctrination? Forced? A way to master English?

JMO

 

[SherryLock]

This might be too much of a stretch but if you click on the coloring book horse pic on DC's FB page below, DC writes that it's "Madi's vision of a white horse." I found different things that a white horse could stand for, some of them disturbing. Just to toss it out there.

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[Parsnip]

Is it just me, that sounds like a recitation to me.

I wonder if it's a traceable script.

Indoctrination? Forced? A way to master English?

JMO

Sounds like a recitation to me as well. Jmo.

 

[KPO]

Sounds like a recitation to me as well. Jmo.

I feel like all of her videos sound like that with a strange ominous tone. Maybe she kept a journal and was reading excerpts.

 

[starlightstarbright]

I have read all the comments about DC not speaking up about what has happened with Madalina. While, as a mom, I can’t understand it. As a person who works with people experiencing trauma, I do get it.

I work with people who struggle to go to the dentist for a check up because of the trauma they have experienced years before. Without support, she is likely completely paralysed in making any sensible decisions.

If I hadn’t seen it play out in my own family, I wouldn’t believe such things were possible. Not to say it’s okay, but my own experience is that there is so much room In peoples minds to make sense of really crazy behaviour. I hope DCIs receiving the right support as I hope she finally cracks and opens up for Madalina’s sake.

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

Full disclosure, I don't think this is the case here, but I think it's an option: if she were abused, particularly if both her and M were abused, she might not just "snap out of it" as soon as her husband is in prison. Particularly if she feels guilty that she was involved or failed to save her daughter.

Look at Jaycee Dugard. She had lots of contact with the outside world and never thought to tell on her abusers. Even when she was alone at the police station she first gave them a fake name. She was alone in a room with the cops and she told them she wanted to speak to Philip before she answered any questions. It seems crazy that you wouldn't just yell "I WAS ABDUCTED 20 YEARS AGO!!" but your brain only cares about survival so you do what you think you need to do to survive.

In this case I can only describe it as "bad vibes" I get from mom where I think she was actively involved. But I don't discount how serious trauma and abuse can change people and make them act in ways that we think are irrational.

Like Stockholm Syndrome.
Just before I read your post I was thinking along these lines.
She told the police he put her family in danger. What does that mean exactly? Does that mean her and M? Or both of them and CP? or could it mean her family in Moldova?
What if she thinks speaking out will put others in danger?
JMO and its just a speculation

 

[steff13]

Why would her bond be higher than his?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Why would her bond be higher than his?

Some have suggested it'd because she might be more of a flight risk since she has family out of country.

 

[steff13]

Some have suggested it'd because she might be more of a flight risk since she has family out of country.

I suppose that's possible but if they consider her a flight risk then they wouldn't have had to set a bond at all I wouldn't think.

 

[cedgison]

I guess we will find out about him tomorrow, if he does have a hearing. He will either come in escorted from an inside door, wearing orange---or will come in off the street wearing casual clothes.

According to the links I posted above (post #841), it looks like they both have hearings at 9 a.m. tomorrow morning.

They are both on the docket for 3:00pm tomorrow.

 

[KPO]

I just want to remind everyone of DC's original bond hearing. The prosecutor said that DC "reported Madalina missing begrudgingly". Typical definitions for begrudgingly are reluctantly, unwilling with no other choice, resentfully.

The prosecutor also said that DC has "hindered the investigation into her disappearance". They said that if she were released on bond, they had grave concern that she would "continue to hinder the investigation and search".

Video shows missing Cornelius girl departing school bus 2 days before disappearance

Law enforcement provided WBTV with a summary of what happened days before Madalina Cojocari was reported missing.

www.wmbfnews.com

IMO - That is a very telling statement. DC isn't simply staying silent or not telling what she knows. She is actively HINDERING the investigation and they fear that she will continue doing so. Hence, the need for electronic monitoring if she is released on bond. That same reference was not said at CP's bond hearing nor was that same requirement made for him. That may change after tomorrow's court appearances but they set a higher bond for DC with stricter requirements upon release from the start. IMHO, that is significant.

 

[KPO]

I suppose that's possible but if they consider her a flight risk then they wouldn't have had to set a bond at all I wouldn't think.

I just posted about this. The prosecutor at her bond hearing said that she has hindered the investigation and they have grave concern that if she is released on bond, she will continue to hinder the investigation and search. Flight risk may be a factor but it wasn't what was stated at her bond hearing.

 

[KPO]

I have read all the comments about DC not speaking up about what has happened with Madalina. While, as a mom, I can’t understand it. As a person who works with people experiencing trauma, I do get it.

I work with people who struggle to go to the dentist for a check up because of the trauma they have experienced years before. Without support, she is likely completely paralysed in making any sensible decisions.

If I hadn’t seen it play out in my own family, I wouldn’t believe such things were possible. Not to say it’s okay, but my own experience is that there is so much room In peoples minds to make sense of really crazy behaviour. I hope DCIs receiving the right support as I hope she finally cracks and opens up for Madalina’s sake.

Other than speculation, have there been ANY statements made by LE or any evidence that DC was abused or experiencing trauma?

I know that her Dad made a comment that CP didn't like for them to speak and she tended to communicate when CP wasn't around. That was hearsay though. Her Dad also said that they seemed content and were always going to this place or that place.

So much of this thread is discussing abusive relationships, domestic violence, etc. Why? LE hasn't said anything about that. DC hasn't said anything about that. Neighbors haven't said anything about that.

Is there a possibility that DC was abused? Absolutely and I'm not saying that she wasn't. But unless DC says that CP could be violent at times or unless a friend/family/neighbor says they saw something or unless LE alludes to that...I don't understand why half of this thread seems to be so focused on it.