I am a verified local on the board. There seems to be alot of misinformation regarding this case cuz the fur is really flying here in town...he said, she said...BUT
Tiff claims that JC's phone dropped and then went dead.
Tiffany NEVER has claimed that the phone dropped in anything that is out there. She did NOT say that on the 911 call. Maytee was the person that says "The phone dropped" and she keeps saying it...pretty soon it becomes a part of the story and evolves into Tiff said it, and she did NOT.
I think that Lisa heard the loud commotion and came out of the other room with only her work pants on (she was found with no shirt and work pants).
Lisa was found fully clothed, STILL in her uniform. This was verified by her uncle who thinks they were killed shortly after arriving simply because she DID have her uniform on and she always took it off immediately upon returning home.
Interestingly, alot of info that is being considered the truth is being gleaned from Maytee and what she said people told HER...
In the first 911 call from Maytee...
1. MAYTEE, not TIFF..says the phone dropped. Tiff never said that but that's what's been put out there.
2. MAYTEE, not TIFF...says "They were walking out the door."
3. MAYTEE, not TIFF....says, "She drove by the house and all the lites are on and the cabinets are ransacked." Tiff NEVER said the cabinets were ransacked and all lights were on..MAYTEE did (When Tiff was on call to 911)
Second 911 call..
Maytee takes it up a notch and now says that Tiff was on phone with my son as he was walking out the door and she heard a guy screaming at my son...This is NEWLY added by Maytee cuz in the first 911, the "guy" wasn't heard at all, much less screaming.
Maytee then adds even more to the story by saying that Johnny said "GET AWAY FROM US". Tiff never said he said that in ANY story published.
Everything else that we blame TIff for changing her story on isn't really her changing the story...IT is Maytee who has thrown all that extra stuff out there, which is WHY the court of public opinion immediately jumped on Tiff as the culprit. Who wouldn't, when u have the mom saying she said the house was ransacked, cabinets were open, some guy was screaming at my son, the phone dropped....ALL things that Tiff has not been quoted as saying, or is on the 911 call.
Maytee also changed her story on the JVM show...
VAZQUEZ: She waits two hours. She waits two hours to call a friend of his that knows me and tells the friend, "I think something really bad happened to John and Lisa. I was on the phone with them. I heard such and such," you know, what you repeated on the show earlier. "And I heard Johnny drop the phone. I`ve gone by the house a few times. It looks ransacked. It looks like cabinets and doors are open. I think somebody needs to call Johnny`s mom and tell them something bad has happened."
Now, we have Maytee saying Tiff said something bad happened, and not only are cabinet doors open, the doors are opened also.
Maytee then says: "The girl told the police that she heard the struggle at 11 at night."
Now it has escalated into a 'STRUGGLE" that Tiff heard, a struggle whereas Tiff does not say that in 911 call or anywhere else.
then Maytee says,
VAZQUEZ: No, he did not have any enemies. And actually, Lisa`s boyfriend was in prison for robbery and just got out of prison a couple months ago
Since the ex has not been named as a suspect, and I don't know if people are talking about him on this board or not, but as a local....this is NOT true, at least there is NO record of him being just let out of prison for robbery. He's no angel, but he was not just let out of prison for robbery. That was Johnny, not the ex.
Before anyone goes off...no, I am not a friend of Tiff or Maytee or anyone involved. I'm a grandma for Gods sake. I just find it amazing that it is Maytee that has fanned these flames, and fanned them well enough that just like the old "telephone" game, the story is more and more distorted, and it is taken as gospel. I think if people want to discuss this logically and try to sleuth this...we need to work only in the FACTS that have been presented. Not statements that keep escalating or are opinions of the players in this murder.
LE has been incredibly closed mouth here. The Lucas county sheriffs department is NOT known for their crack investigative skills and the last murder I remember Det. Stooksbury working was the death of an inmate in the jail, which BTW resulted in indictments of the Sheriff and some deputies. Not because of Stooksbury mind you...she found there was no probably cause that the inmate died from anything other than natural causes and this was backed up by our coroner. It was only when the JUSTICE DEPT was called in and they did their own, seperate investigation that revealed the prisoner died from a beating and strangulation, supposedly at the hands of the deputies. Wonder how Stooksbury missed that??
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/lucas-county-sheriff-deputies-beat-inmate-death-witness-saysI have absolutely NO faith in her detective or investigative skills and I think she should have had a presser at this point. If for nothing else, but to calm the citizenry of Toledo by saying, "At this time, we don't think there is a band of violent, murderous, home invaders roaming the streets of Toledo. I mean, c'mon...say SOMETHING! It's ridiculous...