Momoffourboys
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25 cents per page is what the state permits.
I'm not sure what that means. The site says the fee is .25 cents per page.
25 cents per page is what the state permits.
Our local news tonight (ch 13 WTVG ) Stated at least a dozen 911 calls from the Worley residence over the years...hmmm. where would one find this info ? Id like to know the nature of all of them.
I am thinking that the description of the bike and helmet are of JDW's and LE was trying to track his movements.Let me preface by saying that I firmly believe that SJ's boyfriend could not have done anything to prevent this, and my heart aches for him. Let me also say that I know he has been cleared by LE and I have believed he had nothing to do with this from the beginning. That said, did the motorcycle helmet that the public was asked to report if they had seen that night also match her boyfriend's, as in, did JDW try and say that he saw a guy on a motorcycle in the area with a certain type of helmet and that matched her boyfriend's helmet, so he was trying to pin this on her boyfriend? Not sure if this makes sense..... I can't quit thinking about it, so thought I'd throw it out here in case it applies. Again -- this is not about her boyfriend, but rather how far did JDW plan this and try to deflect from himself?
Did we see these documents yet? The Motion to Permit PUblic Access to Records?
A special thank you to my sleuthy sleuther who is helping me find (or maybe just finding!) documents for this case.
http://wtol.images.worldnow.com/library/152a43cc-ce42-45cf-8988-fd523e53e40c.pdf
Did we see these documents yet? The Motion to Permit PUblic Access to Records?
A special thank you to my sleuthy sleuther who is helping me find (or maybe just finding!) documents for this case.
http://wtol.images.worldnow.com/library/152a43cc-ce42-45cf-8988-fd523e53e40c.pdf
I see several post a about JW transporting her on the motorcycle. I have ridden motorcycles since I was knee high. I honestly do not see how one would be able to transport an unconscious person on a motorcycle. One hand operates the throttle and the other hand operates the clutch, for the short distance he would have driven both hands would have been busy. Driving in first gear so he didn't have to shift would have been a slow ride and left more opportunity to be seen. How would he have kept her on the bike? If she was conscious, she would have been fighting, squirming, something to get off the bike, making it difficult to control.
I see several post a about JW transporting her on the motorcycle. I have ridden motorcycles since I was knee high. I honestly do not see how one would be able to transport an unconscious person on a motorcycle. One hand operates the throttle and the other hand operates the clutch, for the short distance he would have driven both hands would have been busy. Driving in first gear so he didn't have to shift would have been a slow ride and left more opportunity to be seen. How would he have kept her on the bike? If she was conscious, she would have been fighting, squirming, something to get off the bike, making it difficult to control.
Mpnola, thank you for sharing, and thank your sleuthy sleuther friend for me, that helped you find this very important document. Many pieces of this elusive puzzle are beginning to fit now.
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'Something that has been bothering me for a couple of days now is the expediency of the FBI's involvement in this case. Was this area of Ohio already being investigated by an FBI task force prior to SJ's abduction due to an abnormal number of missing/murdered women from the area? Did FBI VICAP's database<Violent Criminal Apprehension Program> indicate an epidemic of missing/murdered young women in this area of Ohio, months or even years, prior to the 07/19/2016 tragic abduction/murder of Sarah Joughin? Imo, this is highly likely'...
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2008/august/vicap_080408
ViCAP Goes Online
And Closer to Investigators Who Need It
ViCAP’s original concept—to share investigative data from violent crimes—actually came from a local police officer. Eventually, it was decided that the FBI would house this data, primarily because of our experience in being a national repository of other types of criminal justice data, like fingerprints.
ViCAP’s initial focus was transient/serial killers who crossed jurisdictional boundaries with impunity. But it expanded and now includes actual/attempted homicides, missing persons (believed victims of foul play), kidnappings (including child abductions), sexual assaults, and unidentified human remains. The database houses modus operandi, signature aspects, crime scene descriptions/photos, victim and suspect details, and other pertinent information.
ViCAP today. Our database contains about 150,000 open and closed violent crime investigations submitted by some 3,800 state and local law enforcement agencies—and includes some “cold cases” that go back to the 1950s.
Once cases are added, they are continually compared against other cases housed in the database. Based on common traits and similar modus operandi, cases that are possibly related are linked. Then our ViCAP analysts take over and give the process the human touch—looking for patterns to pinpoint crimes that may have been committed by the same offender, and hopefully generating new investigative leads.
ViCAP also offers additional assistance to our partners—including multi-agency coordination efforts, investigative support, case management help, crime mapping, case series matrices, and on-scene case assistance.
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Agree, completely. I just don't see it possible.
Agree, completely. I just don't see it possible.
Unless there was a second person and they were holding her either unconscious or at gun point between them.
He may have forced her to ride with him at gun point. Abductions often happen by gaining control quickly with an injury, etc. to gain compliance, thus the struggle and blood on his helmet. We don't have any way of knowing she was unconscious IMO.
I think somehow transport took place in a truck. Didn't he bump and grab Miss Gardner with a truck? He may have started with the motorcycle, but then came back for transport with truck. Just thinking out loud. Still trying to work it out.