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OMG ... it's bad enough Baez is on -- NOW they bring on Linda Kenny Baden !
UGGGGGGGGGGG !
Did Juan state today that there were pictures of her on top of him (during sex) I thought I heard him say that but I was in and out of the room the TV is in while *trying* to get housework done.
Who cares who is doing the lying. If there is no consequence to lying under oath, what's the point? The whole system doesn't make sense. Maybe that's why our judicial system is so bloody messed up?I agree. However, in the limited experience I've had with sworn testimony, the most virulent liars are (unfortunately) police officers.
In an effort to be objective, whenever I feel like we are having a really big WIN for Travis, I hurry over to the pro-Jodi sites to see how they plan to spin it. Here is their take on this
FAIL by Samuels on the PTSD test.
They are convinced that on redirect, JW is going to be able to rehabilitate. ; REALLY?
Anyhow, they have TWO main reasons for that belief. One, they believe that ALL JW has to show thew jury is that Jodi can change that test answer from 'stranger attack' to Travis attack' and VOILA====she now has PTSD again. So they feel that she can convince the jury that if she retook the test it would confirm she has PTSD.
They also said that the lying on the test is just another piece of evidence that she indeee has PTSD.
I disagree totally. I think those two things are evidence of her being a sociopath, a malingerer and a narcissist, but that's just me. LOL
Absolutely. It's fun to argue over, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter. She planned it either way.
There are no pictures of JA straddling TA. The Quack Dr. took notes while interviewing JA and she told him that the "naughty pictures" were taken by TA while she was straddling him. Yet another lie she told and one that the Dr. didn't bother to understand.I did hear Juan say something about a photo of her "straddling" TA. I didn't hear the context. AFAIK, those pictures weren't entered in any court testimony. I don't want to see any more naked pictures, but I would like to know if there are pics that prove they had sexy time before she slaughtered him. Or is it t just something JA said.
BBM: Scary ... very scary, IMO ... I am glad these 2 are NOT on the REAL jury !
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Who cares who is doing the lying. If there is no consequence to lying under oath, what's the point? The whole system doesn't make sense. Maybe that's why our judicial system is so bloody messed up?
I totally agree. they left out tons of information. I was also really disappointed with the "reconstruction" of the bathroom. there was no detail--like the doors. I also thought that the shelf that the gun was supposedly sitting on wasn't even in the reconstruction. When they talked about the ME's report--nobody mentioned that the ME said that no matter at what point TA was shot--at that instant the he was unconscious.Because they are getting false info from the guys doing the re-enactment.
I agree. However, in the limited experience I've had with sworn testimony, the most virulent liars are (unfortunately) police officers.
:seeya: Respectfully, I will have to disagree on a few of these points :
- Court starts late all the time ... It is very disrespectful to the Jury, and disrespectful to the attorneys that are ready to go ... and it's disrespectful to Travis' family ...
I know the courts are overburdened ... but she's been on the bench a while, so she should have a handle by now on "time management skills" ...
- I understand why the concern about an appeal -- but no matter whether JA gets the DP or LWOP, there will be an appeal ...
- She has absolutely no control over the courtroom ... she lets Jodi's mother and aunt "giggle" like schoolgirls and doesn't say a word ... she allows "gum chewing" which is totally disrespectful in the court -- especially for the person sitting next to you ... Example : Today, when the camera was panning the gallery, there was a woman sitting in the row behind JA's family and she actually took the gum out of her mouth and put it back in the wrapper ... I was like wth ?
- She really needs to control her courtroom ... I'm not saying she needs to be a "dictator" about it -- but it's like she has NO "confidence" in what she is doing up there ... she seems to "second guess" herself all the time ... Now, that may be because she is not familiar with many of the issues that have come up during this trial, and I get that ...
- I may get flack on this one, but it's like she has NO personality at all -- I know a judge does not have to have a "personality" up on the bench -- but they should be CONFIDENT in what they are doing up there and CONTROL ... IMO, she has neither ...
- One of the issues that was MOST PREJUDICIAL was to allow Jodi and the DT to continue with the LIES that Travis was a "pedophile" :furious:
That was WRONG -- Death Penalty or no DP -- it was WRONG ... Travis is not here to defend himself ... and it is WRONG to allow these LIES in because Travis' family has been through enough ...
We may not agree ... but that's okay ... I will still respect your opinion.
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I did hear Juan say something about a photo of her "straddling" TA. I didn't hear the context. AFAIK, those pictures weren't entered in any court testimony. I don't want to see any more naked pictures, but I would like to know if there are pics that prove they had sexy time before she slaughtered him. Or is it t just something JA said.
BBM: Scary ... very scary, IMO ... I am glad these 2 are NOT on the REAL jury !
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Were you the one accused of the crime??
For a jury I think it will matter. I have no background in criminal/crime scene investigation. As a jury I would rely on the forensic investigators (prosecution and defense) to make sense of the science of the crime scene (along with my own logic).
IMO the defense not coming up with an alternative forensic expert to support their client's allegation the shot came first, would be a hurdle. Remember the only forensic expert has been the ME who stated categorically he did not believe the shot could have come first considering the defensive wounds on the the victim.
This show is taped out of Los Angeles, right? More like they are out of work actors who were paid $50 bucks to dissent. It's fake, fake, fake.
If you didn't have people to say that, there's no controversy. You can't have 100% across the board says she's a guilty, lying sociopath- which anyone with half a brain knows.
I lived there for years- nothing is real. It's a town peppered with duplicity and eating disorders with everything designed to separate you from your $$$$ or your undies.