I just watched the interview with SIL for the first time. It's clearly stated in here that an officer called BB to tell him Missy was dead. It appears the previous calls to him from the friend/camper had reayed she was in an "accident." Not sure where y'all are getting that he was told by a camper that Missy was dead? I think that's inaccurate info that's just continued to balloon over the pages ...
I re watched it and it looks like, to me, that when the reporter asked about the tool being a murder weapon, the sergeant on the right shakes his head no. (It's around the 3 minute 42 second mark where he shakes his head.)
I don't know if this was what the poster was referring to?
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This sheds more light on the camper who arrived early, which to me makes it even more curious:
The same article also adds this, but this may have changed as the article is from days ago:
http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/woman-found-dead-inside-midlothian-church/140954492
So the person who said they arrived at 4:35 waited outside presumably under the cover. That seems even more strange that you'd wait outside, unless you expected to find something bad where you either knew what was inside or you are scared to go in alone. Was this person noticing Missy wasn't bringing stuff in? Were they not calling out to her during this time? Based on the quote it sounds like the one who supposedly got there at 4:35 is also the one who first located the body.
http://articles.philly.com/2008-12-...springfield-township-church-edward-fonder-iii
Mary Jane Fonder, 66, the oldest woman to be convicted of first-degree murder in Bucks County, was sentenced to life in prison yesterday for fatally shooting a fellow congregant in the office of a Springfield Township church.
Motive: Jealousy.
Yeah, we said that about the Sandra Cantu case too.
Please remember. There are no absolutes in crimes. An open mind is the only way to successfully solve a case and/or to sleuth one.
I really think along the way where the early camper waited has gotten misconstrued. I think when you hear them say waited outside...being in their car is implied. It was raining correct?
Some folks are questioning the 2 calls made to 911 at 5am from 2 separate campers at the same time.
Imo. Maybe camper 2 thought camper 1 could be whatever. And decided to call 911 as well to make sure just in case. Jmo
Safe than sorry.
I agree. I have a gym class I go to at 5 am 4 days a week. I have a good friend who also goes and since I almost always get there early, I wait in my car for my friend to get there. I usually check my work email on my phone, play a game etc. I only signed up for the class, not to hang out with my trainer for half an hour before it starts.
Also, since there was so much talk about an 'accident' is it possible it did look like an accident until they went back and looked at video footage?
I agree. I have a gym class I go to at 5 am 4 days a week. I have a good friend who also goes and since I almost always get there early, I wait in my car for my friend to get there. I usually check my work email on my phone, play a game etc. I only signed up for the class, not to hang out with my trainer for half an hour before it starts.
Also, since there was so much talk about an 'accident' is it possible it did look like an accident until they went back and looked at video footage?
That's what husbands are suppose to remind their spouses of. 4am is still nighttime. Especially if the kiddies are home alone.
Btw. Was the kiddies home alone? Or were they being supervised?
I agree. I have a gym class I go to at 5 am 4 days a week. I have a good friend who also goes and since I almost always get there early, I wait in my car for my friend to get there. I usually check my work email on my phone, play a game etc. I only signed up for the class, not to hang out with my trainer for half an hour before it starts.
Also, since there was so much talk about an 'accident' is it possible it did look like an accident until they went back and looked at video footage?
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Waiting outside isn't weird if you only have a trainer-student relationship with the trainer, but the timeline made it seem like the person who sat and waited for 25 minutes was also the person well enough acquainted with the family to call Missy's husband before LE got to. Not implicating that person, btw, just questioning the timeline and where that info came from.
colette - your post is good, that could explain it. if you werne't expecting anything to be wrong and you had gone to look for her and didn't see her you might just think she was taking five in the bathroom and would just go back to your car.
I really think along the way where the early camper waited has gotten misconstrued. I think when you hear them say waited outside...being in their car is implied. It was raining correct?
So you think the camper lied to LE when they told LE they waited outside, but were really in their car? Why would someone lie about that? I do think the camper may be lying, but I don't know why someone would lie about being in their car drinking a coffee, especially when it can be verified by the others showing up whether this person was outside or not. It is the Police spokesman who said expressly said the camper was outside for 'a while.' Lying to police is prosecutable offense, so it would really draw my attention as to why they are lying.
SIL actually did say that one of the daughters would go to the early classes and that was one of her reasons for going over to the house was to see if the daughter was at the house, which it starts at about 1:18 in the middle video where she even says 'Thank God she was still in her bed':
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Sl...ster-in-Law-Speaks-to-Dateline-376629821.html
Bein a nurse, i hope the authorities have looked into who all has had right leg surgeries/injuries in the last few years in the area. It will be time consuming. I am aware of HIPPA laws but I am also aware of what goes on when bosses say "I don't wanna know what you are doing". The answer(s) may very well lie in area medical records i.e. Physical therapy records etc. Pharmacy records etc. Once they narrow down the perp list, could be helpful.