gremlingrrl
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I have also suspected Wayne was at least partly aware of the Laura situation...
Me, too...
I have also suspected Wayne was at least partly aware of the Laura situation...
So someone had to have had that information to tell them then, as far as dob.The funeral home writes what you tell them to.
True, but disgusting that testing was not performed. moo.I think DM had plenty of time to clean up before he let his mom know dad was dead.
Wouldn't there need to be more proof that this particular gun was the one mentioned in texts? My gut is telling me someone spilled. ... for perhaps selfish reasons (he knew they had him, so he admitted to it, hoping for charge/sentence reductions). mooThat gun and two others were traced to MWJ during the TB investigation. From cell phone and computer records.
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"And yet, when the first paramedic to arrive at the scene — the call came in from Wayne’s long-time ex-wife, who had been called to the house by Dellen after his purported discovery of the body — was asked if he observed “any injuries,” his reply was that he had not."
BBM. This makes absolutely no sense with all the blood that's been reported.
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All along I have absolutely been assuming that an autopsy was done. Is this in question?? When I searched for any mention anywhere of an autopsy having been performed on WM, I come up empty-handed. Is it even possible that an autopsy was not done? I had thought an autopsy was always required in a sudden unexpected death, especially if it did not occur in a hospital. But if, upon brief look, it appears to be a suicide, and the only immediate family member is saying suicide, and I don't want an autopsy, is it then up to the coroner to decide whether to have one? I will be in total shock if an autopsy did not take place in this case.
Would it really surprise you?All along I have absolutely been assuming that an autopsy was done. Is this in question?? When I searched for any mention anywhere of an autopsy having been performed on WM, I come up empty-handed. Is it even possible that an autopsy was not done? I had thought an autopsy was always required in a sudden unexpected death, especially if it did not occur in a hospital. But if, upon brief look, it appears to be a suicide, and the only immediate family member is saying suicide, and I don't want an autopsy, is it then up to the coroner to decide whether to have one? I will be in total shock if an autopsy did not take place in this case.
I think DM had plenty of time to clean up before he let his mom know dad was dead.
The funeral home writes what you tell them to.
RSBM Re the gun that was found. This is what the Jury didn't hear in the LB trial.
"The .32 was found lying beside Millard’s father, Wayne Millard, in November 2012, in what was initially ruled a suicide. Millard said he’d bought it as a birthday present for his dad, who at one time had up to half a dozen guns in the house."
Opinion | Guns, drugs and murder: What the Laura Babcock jury wasn't told
IMHO, he's going to say that he borrowed it from his dad or was showing his dad how to use it or something- RP is going to say "if he had murdered his dad with it, certainly he would have wiped his prints off" I honestly could see DM thinking this way- if he left his prints on the gun, he definitely wouldn't be a suspect . MOO
That gun is illegal in Canada.Wouldn't there need to be more proof that this particular gun was the one mentioned in texts? My gut is telling me someone spilled. ... for perhaps selfish reasons (he knew they had him, so he admitted to it, hoping for charge/sentence reductions). moo
Isn't it interesting that the particular gun used in WM's murder is an oldie? So simple to explain that WM owned guns in the past, but it was thought they had been given away.
Interesting too that according to the testimony from those on the scene so far, DM did not offer up that he had just given that same gun to his father for his birthday?
So many things to consider!
IT was definitely abuse to Wayne Millard. He took over the house and did what he wanted, even murdered in the house.That sounds very plausible to me - a form of elder abuse. I can't imagine how Wayne felt living there. DM didn't listen to him at Millardair and it's obvious that he and his friends had complete run of the house. So sad.
Quick question. Was AM living at Maple Gate at the time of WM'S murder?
I'm just guessing on that but I think the motive would be greed. DM wanted the money. It's that simple. Just like he wanted a truck and killed for it and just like he wanted CN and killed for it. Nothing new here really. When he wants something he takes it...however taking means.
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That is totally illogical. Evidence like that should be allowed!I wish this could be included and can't understand why it isn't allowed. It's not as though it's hearsay evidence. JC can get on the stand and swear it happened. Doesn't seem right.
How could a death *ever* be signed-off if questions remain, but yet the body has been destroyed and any evidence along with it? And if it had never been signed off, then surely to god there would have been an autopsy performed to assist in the ability TO sign off??I tried unsuccessfully to find a reference but wasn’t it reported sometime not long after DM was first arrested that the coroner had never signed off on WMs death. Maybe he was never satisfied with the information gathered at the time
of death and if an autopsy was never performed this might support his hesitation.
Edited to add link: Tim Bosma: Ancaster man was killed inside truck, source says | The Star
I don't recall anything about them having retrieved the bullet, only that the bullet had been lodged in WM's brain... however in order to know that it was lodged in his brain, one would assume an autopsy would have to have made that discovery? So yes???? It would REALLY surprise me if an autopsy was NOT done in this case....... however, from the sense of would it really surprise me in *this* case, considering all of the other seeming inadequacies, I suppose that sadly, it would NOT surprise me? The retrieval of the bullet is another dimension of the whole autopsy thing - they would have had to retrieve the bullet in order to prove that it came from the gun found next to him, so it only makes sense that an autopsy had to have been done. moo.Would it really surprise you?There had to be some type of examination because IIRC they retrieved the bullet.
Thanks for finding that article! Just wanted to post what the linked article said about that part (BBM):I tried unsuccessfully to find a reference but wasn’t it reported sometime not long after DM was first arrested that the coroner had never signed off on WMs death. Maybe he was never satisfied with the information gathered at the time
of death and if an autopsy was never performed this might support his hesitation.
Edited to add link: Tim Bosma: Ancaster man was killed inside truck, source says | The Star