Why did Lee flip-flop?

[debs]

If anyone got thrown under the bus in this case it was poor sweet little Caylee. I don't see where any of the A's care what happened to her!

George did try to bring her to life at the memorial service.

And now they try to bring her to the bank.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I'm not sure how FL law works, but I think that since KC was a member of their household that the A's homeowners policy may cover the damages in the ZFG case. I say this b/c I once sued a former employer who not only threatened to kill me, but also libeled and slandered me. I had to take him to court, but his homeowners policy paid out a substantial settlement to resolve the issue. He was a public official who got strung out on drugs and was up on malfeasance and fraud and theft charges. I had to testify to what I knew (not that much, but I was honest about everything), and he didn't like that so he tried to smear me. I was never sure why homeowners would cover a workplace situation, but it did, and I was glad!

I am sorry I don't have a link, but I do recall clearly that Cindy had stated early on that they did try to go after her homeowners insurance but that it did not work for what ever reason.

 

[Paintr]

If anyone got thrown under the bus in this case it was poor sweet little Caylee. I don't see where any of the A's care what happened to her!

George did try to bring her to life at the memorial service.

Yes he did. And he tugged at many heartstrings. Then he asked for letters and support for her accused killer. Sorta ruined what came before, at least for me. :{

 

[Paintr]

The Lee flip-flop came when he knew absolutely that KC killed Caylee. I think initially he thought there was a very slight possibility that Caylee was taken by the Nanny, but as his investigation and LE evidence came to light, he knew there was no way that anyone other than KC did this. At that point, still wanting to maintain his place in the family and show his support and love for KC, he adopted the KC is innocent stance. He even went so far as to turn his back on his murdered niece and dishonor her memory with his CMA speech at the memorial. I'm sure that if Lee lives to be 100, he will never sink to that depth again. Shame on him.

Lexington, That was an excellent insight into Lee. I agree and just want to add, I do believe that his part in this will haunt Lee for the rest of his life.

 

[eddeva]

I'm sure that if Lee lives to be 100, he will never sink to that depth again. Shame on him.

lexington, you obviously think a lot more highly of lee than i do.

 

[Paintr]

lexington, you obviously think a lot more highly of lee than i do.

eddeva, I am not Lex but I just thought I'd throw this out there. I do not think highly of Lee, but I do feel a tiny bit of sympathy for him. Deep inside I do think that Lee had developed a set of values that he was trying to live up to. He had ideals which I believe he developed himself for I see no evidence that these were taught by his family.

I believe Lee sold out his ideals for the sake of his family. He realizes what he is doing and I think it will sicken his self image. He chose to do this so he must live with it but all I see, when I look at Lee, is someone drowning.

 

[panthera]

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I agree with you AlwaysShocked, I think that the time period that we did not see Lee, that Cindy had given him a "timeout" to either get with the program or be shunned from the family. She probably threatened to disown him for his indiscretions. He finally decided to join the program and now he is fully programmed to do his part.:bang:

I agree, and now he's living back at home so she can keep him in line. MOO

 

[Pink Panther]

I'm really having a hard time figuring LA out...I think that he is probably the most complex of the bunch here. According to CA he got very sick for a few years in his teens and it's likely that during that time, he forged some sort of an unusual bond with KC that remains obvious even under the circumstances...There are rumors that he got MH's wife pregnant while MH and his wife were still married and that she subsequently aborted. It sounds like this may have occured just prior to his moving out. Maybe CA "drew the line" and he moved out? For whatever reason, he seems to have detached himself from the dysfunction for a while...Now, despite rumors that Mallory is pregnant, he's living at home again.

Hmmm...LA sounds like he might be a right mess...Just like the rest of this "nuclear" family.

MOO

 

[Theonly1]

He said himself that he moved home at the beginning of this year to help the family. It's strange how once Casey is totally out of the house (jail) here comes Lee back home (I assume at Cindy's suggestion). The arm of the family has a long reach.

 

[amethyst221]

I'm not sure how FL law works, but I think that since KC was a member of their household that the A's homeowner's policy may cover the damages in the ZFG case. I say this b/c I once sued a former employer who not only threatened to kill me, but also libeled and slandered me. I had to take him to court, but his homeowner's policy paid out a substantial settlement to resolve the issue. He was a public official who got strung out on drugs and was up on malfeasance and fraud and theft charges. I had to testify to what I knew (not that much, but I was honest about everything), and he didn't like that so he tried to smear me. I was never sure why homeowner's would cover a workplace situation, but it did, and I was glad!

After this, I'm leaving the discussions of insurance law to the non-lawyers for good. BUT, at a minimum, you can't draw any conclusions based on one's own past experience in a different situation, possibly in a different state, under coverage of a different policy, without regard to issues of disputed coverage, settlement of a claim by the insurance company for other reasons, etc. To decide coverage issues in the case of the A's HO policy, you have to know its exact provisions, whether it has an intentional acts exclusion (pretty common), how the FLA courts interpret that, whether there are competing or other provisions, how the law defines insureds under the policy's provisions, and a host of other issues. There has been a lot of discussion of umbrella policies and how they expand coverage. Usually that expansion is beyond the insured premises, not necessarily for any kind of wrongdoing. But I suppose that could depend, too.

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

I would imagine with CA's hands around your throat, screaming in your face you will NOT throw your sister under the bus that, that would make a pretty big impression on you.

As always JMHO

 

[DeeMarie]

I think George will do anything that Cindy wants regardless of what he believes deep inside himself. i.e. that Casey is a murderer. There are relationships where one partner is totally controlling the other one and the other partner allows it and needs it. They are a puppet for the other person. No wonder why he is having psychological struggles. -Being a cop and going against his instincts for Cindy-that's enough to make anyone break.

I am not trying to excuse his behavior and saying that George is a total wet noodle - but guaranteed that 99.9% of the decisions being made are by Cindy and George follows because of his emotional problems.

Just look at how his nervous break down occurred -Cindy told him to go pick out jewelry for Caylee for her funeral. I am sure that he did not want to do it. George drove to the jewelry store anyways and had a nervous break down on the way. He does not say ‘no’ to Cindy and probably never does-even if it means winding up in a psych ward.

My father was this way-leaving everyone and everything for the next woman he would be dating or married to and believing and doing everything she said-he even had our beloved family dog to sleep because his 3rd wife just did'nt like dogs. Its all so crazy.

As for Lee he follows his fathers footsteps.

 

[Devon]

I think Lee will do anything that Cindy wants regardless of what he believes deep inside himself. i.e. that Casey is a murderer. There are relationships where one partner is totally controlling the other one and the other partner allows it and needs it. They are a puppet for the other person. No wonder why he is having psychological struggles. -Being a cop and going against his instincts for Cindy-that's enough to make anyone break.

I am not trying to excuse his behavior and saying that Lee is a total wet noodle - but guaranteed that 99.9% of the decisions being made are by Cindy and Lee follows because of his emotional problems.

Just look at how his nervous break down occurred -Cindy told him to go pick out jewelry for Caylee for her funeral. I am sure that he did not want to do it. Lee drove to the jewelry store anyways and had a nervous break down on the way. He does not say ‘no’ to Cindy and probably never does-even if it means winding up in a psych ward.

My father was this way-leaving everyone and everything for the next woman he would be dating or married to and believing and doing everything she said-he even had our beloved family dog to sleep because his 3rd wife just did'nt like dogs. Its all so crazy.

I think you are confusing Lee with George. George is the ex-cop and the one that attempted suicide.

 

[DeeMarie]

I think you are confusing Lee with George. George is the ex-cop and the one that attempted suicide.

Sorry-I have made updates to my post. Thanks!

 

[Devon]

Sorry-I have made updates to my post. Thanks!

You're welcome.
P.S - Love your signature!

 

[flourish]

eddeva, I am not Lex but I just thought I'd throw this out there. I do not think highly of Lee, but I do feel a tiny bit of sympathy for him. Deep inside I do think that Lee had developed a set of values that he was trying to live up to. He had ideals which I believe he developed himself for I see no evidence that these were taught by his family.

I believe Lee sold out his ideals for the sake of his family. He realizes what he is doing and I think it will sicken his self image. He chose to do this so he must live with it but all I see, when I look at Lee, is someone drowning.

You make a great point about Lee having to develop his own set of values after growing up in a dysfunctional home. I really think Casey told him about where Caylee's body could be found, and he passed that information to DC. I wonder if Lee's current logic is that he knows he can't save Caylee, but maybe he can help save his other "CMA." He's got to be doing some major rationalizing!

 

[natsound]

I would imagine with CA's hands around your throat, screaming in your face you will NOT throw your sister under the bus that, that would make a pretty big impression on you.

As always JMHO

If they're not going to throw KC under the bus for the heinous crime she committed, then why would they throw their other child under the bus for much less of an indescretion? Just food for thought.

 

[debbie0604]

I'm not really sure. To be honest, I think he's very loyal to KC and he revealed it when I heard him laugh about the smell in the car...then when I saw him getting angry over the makeshift memorial in front of the A's house and he tore it up, and then I saw him at the memorial NOT wearing a Caylee pin and sending "code messages to KC", and then days later laughing through the deposition. My opinion only here. I don't think he's "flip-flopping". I think he has a loyalty to his sister and he just rides the fence with everyone else. Just my opinion.

 

[Manny]

I chose other.. I think Momma dictated what the "script" for the family would be.. " We are united" So George and Lee follow suit or take the consequences.

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

If they're not going to throw KC under the bus for the heinous crime she committed, then why would they throw their other child under the bus for much less of an indescretion? Just food for thought.

According to them KC did not committ the crime. Would not want someone going rogue on them and telling the truth.:waitasec: They are a united family remember. :furious: