4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, 2022 #79

[Dotta]

A new lawyer

Idaho student murders suspect Bryan Kohberger hires new high-profile lawyer who worked TV case

Suspected University of Idaho killer Bryan Kohberger has hired a new attorney who previously worked a case that appeared on “America’s Most Wanted,” involving a man who received f…

nypost.com

 

[Nila Aella]

• 05/11/2023 Objection to Motion

 

[girlhasnoname]

Comparing the lettering to lettering in the rest of the document
I think it says: "A Man's hand" drawing.

ie: the a's look like a u
many d's are not connected
IMO letters that are clear in the writing are the n's, l's, and w's (look at the w in drawing). I don't see an l in this entry.



Looking at the recently posted Bing footage, thank you @Twistinginthewind : IMO he was a mile behind that truck, according to east coast standards.

What struck me about the video was there was a police car to his left and drove past it on the right (2:58). Left lane is for faster moving cars and never drive faster than a police car on a highway IMO.

video of bryan kohberger indiance bodycam - Search Videos

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Yes it could easily be a mans hand drawing. Atrocious handwriting to decipher for sure.

 

[al66pine]

Ten Percent of ID.'s "Capital Counsel Roster?"*

.... Now he has three capital qualified lawyers. Maybe I'm completely off base, but to me, that says the State may be preparing a capital case and the evidence,
The fact that three capital qualified lawyers are now on board makes me lean toward "he's in deep advertiser censored stuff."....IMO.

snipped for focus.@10ofRods Thanks for your post & gotta agree w you on ^.

ID's Capital Counsel Roster has been decimated (in historical sense of the word) by being appointed as BK's def. team.

3 of 33. Nearly 10 % of those qualified, now working on his behalf.

How much time can they spend on cases unrelated to BK?

_______________________________________
Just FWIW. This state roster shows Elisa Massoth as qualified for as "Co-Counsel for Trial," not as "Lead Trial" like Anne Taylor. Who's the other atty?
Jay Logsdon? He's qual'ed as "Lead Appeal/Post Conviction."

* "Capital Counsel Roster
Approved by the Public Defense Commission as of April 14, 2023"

Capital Counsel Roster

pdc.idaho.gov

 

[girlhasnoname]

• 05/11/2023 Objection to Motion

<snipped> From your link

Because the media coverage of this case has been intense, and because Mr. Kohberger
plans on providing expert testimony on its damaging effects, Mr. Kohberger will require additional time and will not be prepared for such a hearing on May 22, 2023.

Well, well BK is going to give expert testimony.

ETA: His attorneys will give the testimony

MOO

 

[Teche]

The handwriting is awful, but general collective opinion is that it says 'cards'. This is based on looking at how the writer forms certain letters throughout the rest of the document.

MOO

I thought it was id cards (ha).

 

[Cool Cats]

<snipped> From your link

Because the media coverage of this case has been intense, and because Mr. Kohberger
plans on providing expert testimony on its damaging effects, Mr. Kohberger will require additional time and will not be prepared for such a hearing on May 22, 2023.

Well, well BK is going to give expert testimony, rich. grrrrr

MOO

I'm sure it means the defense will provide experts to testify, not BK

 

[al66pine]

...I'm not assuming the Kohberger case is the only thing on the prosecutor's desk. Not at all....

snipped for focus @BeginnerSleuther Agreeing w you on ^.

And I wonder how much time BK's def. team spends on other cases.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I'm sure it means the defense will provide experts to testify, not BK

That makes more sense so I corrected my post to avoid confusion.

Although we do know. how BK likes a captive audience. Hah

MOO

 

[I'm Nobody]

I'm sure it means the defense will provide experts to testify, not BK

Hey @Cool Cats Bet you a milkshake, BK provides the "expert" testimony himself about how damaging media coverage is to him.
I'll be glad if I lose this one.


"raises factual issues that Mr. Kohberger requires additional time to prepare."

"Because the media coverage of this case has been intense, and because Mr. Kohberger
plans on providing expert testimony on its damaging effects, Mr. Kohberger will require additional time and will not be prepared for such a hearing on May 22, 2023."

edit MOO.

 

[Cool Cats]

MSN

Bryan Kohberger's attorney is going "on the offense" by filing a motion to compel prosecutors to turn over more evidence in the University of Idaho murders case.

Kohberger's attorney is doing "what any good defense lawyer does: go on the offense," Neama Rahmani, a former federal prosecutor and president of West Coast Trial Lawyers, told Newsweek.

"Judges don't like it when the state doesn't turn over evidence, and judges can sanction the prosecution as a result."

Rahmani noted that an Idaho judge took the death penalty off the table in the murder trial of Lori Vallow "because prosecutors didn't comply with their discovery obligations."

Michael McAuliffe, a former federal prosecutor and elected state attorney, told Newsweek that a detailed defense motion to compel the state to produce additional or specific items during discovery "is not unusual."

"Of course, several items sought by the defense are, or were, once located in Pennsylvania, so the Idaho authorities must obtain the evidence, review it, and classify it before anything could be produced or shown to the defense," he said.

Both Rahmani and McAuliffe noted that prosecutors have an obligation to turn over exculpatory material with or without a defense motion.

Exculpatory evidence "must be disclosed under the Supreme Court's Brady decision," Rahmani said. "Other evidence like bodycams and lab results have to be disclosed upon request under the Idaho Criminal Rules.

 

[PrairieWind]

Hey @Cool Cats Bet you a milkshake, BK provides the "expert" testimony himself about how damaging media coverage is to him.
I'll be glad if I lose this one.


"raises factual issues that Mr. Kohberger requires additional time to prepare."

"Because the media coverage of this case has been intense, and because Mr. Kohberger
plans on providing expert testimony on its damaging effects, Mr. Kohberger will require additional time and will not be prepared for such a hearing on May 22, 2023."

edit MOO.

I don't think BK would be allowed to present expert testimony on this. I am sure the Defense has retained some sort of polling group that has sampled opinions in the area to support their position.

 

[Deleted member 718]

• 05/11/2023 Objection to Motion

Thank you @Nila Aella !

 

[Cool Cats]

Hey @Cool Cats Bet you a milkshake, BK provides the "expert" testimony himself about how damaging media coverage is to him.
I'll be glad if I lose this one.


"raises factual issues that Mr. Kohberger requires additional time to prepare."

"Because the media coverage of this case has been intense, and because Mr. Kohberger
plans on providing expert testimony on its damaging effects, Mr. Kohberger will require additional time and will not be prepared for such a hearing on May 22, 2023."

edit MOO.

I don't think BK would be allowed to present expert testimony on this. I am sure the Defense has retained some sort of polling group that has sampled opinions in the area to support their position.

@I'm Nobody I have swamp property you can buy if I'm right!

To provide expert testimony you have to be a bona fide expert. When experts go up to testify they are always asked about their credentials. BK is not any type of expert on how detrimental media coverage can be to a trial.

Very interesting @PrairieWind, I didn't even think about polling groups. I saw a real polling group (Mock Jury) on a show where the defense presented their Case to the group and then got the groups' individual opinions on whether or not they thought the defense proved their Case, and what the weak areas were in the case.

With so many sophisticated DP attorneys on this Case I wouldn't be surprised if they use "Mock Juries."

 

[PrairieWind]

@I'm Nobody I have swamp property you can buy if I'm right!

To provide expert testimony you have to be a bona fide expert. When experts go up to testify they are always asked about their credentials. BK is not any type of expert on how detrimental media coverage can be to a trial.

Very interesting @PrairieWind, I didn't even think about polling groups. I saw a real polling group (Mock Jury) on a show where the defense presented their Case to the group and then got the groups' individual opinions on whether or not they thought the defense proved their Case, and what the weak areas were in the case.

With so many sophisticated DP attorneys on this Case I wouldn't be surprised if they use "Mock Juries."

Mock juries are pretty common in major cases now.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Where do you get ‘mock jurors’ from? I just wonder how they would compare to a real jury who are compelled to do jury service at that point of time, rather than who choose to do a mock jury/presumably get paid (rather than reimbursed loss of earnings).

 

[North_Idaho_Nony]

Sorry if it’s already been shared! Yesterday, the Idaho Statesman published an interesting (to me) article entitled “Do gag orders like Idaho judge’s in Kohberger case work? Or are they ‘irrelevant’?” by Sally Krutzig; a non-paywall version was published by the Seattle Times today with a different headline:
Gag orders are ‘rarely well-executed.’ Idaho judge’s decision in Kohberger case is under fire

HTH

 

[jjleroche]

Hey @Cool Cats Bet you a milkshake, BK provides the "expert" testimony himself about how damaging media coverage is to him.
I'll be glad if I lose this one.


"raises factual issues that Mr. Kohberger requires additional time to prepare."

"Because the media coverage of this case has been intense, and because Mr. Kohberger
plans on providing expert testimony on its damaging effects, Mr. Kohberger will require additional time and will not be prepared for such a hearing on May 22, 2023."

edit MOO.

The fame, the glory, the motive...IMO MOO

 

[Vaderman]

In Washington state its illegal to pull torward into the intersection to wait to turn left.

Thank you for the explanation! I actually had a similar situation. I was stopped, ready to cross a state road. There was another driver on the opposite side who had arrived at the stop sign before me and was intending to turn left. Once the cross traffic cleared, I started to cross just as the other driver blew her horn and screamed expletives at me. I am fairly familiar with residential areas (had there been a traffic light, I would have had the right away).

I was disturbed by the encounter. I asked my boss, an expert on our state law about the situation. He wasn't sure himself and googled our state law. It turned out I had the right away in the situation, which made me feel better (Don't want to be THAT guy).

But it definitely made me realize how often the BK pulling into an intersection situation happens. In his instance, I don't think he was purposely breaking the law. I think the law is confusing as hell.

 

[Nova]

I'm not really expecting anyone to know. We're all stating our opinions because none of us know.



I'm not assuming the Kohberger case is the only thing on the prosecutor's desk. Not at all. By law, they need to comply with the defense's requests. If they can't or choose not to, they should state that. The defense clearly feels there is exculpatory evidence in some of this, so I don't believe that these particular things would be "discoverable only if they are used at trial." There is no sound reason I can think of that Moscow PD notes weren't turned over.

MOO.

I can give you one off the top of my head: maybe the defense is wrong and, in the prosecution's view, there is nothing exculpatory to BK in the requested material. Just because the defense "thinks" it, doesn't make it true or enforceable on the DA.

Maybe the DA is playing games, or maybe the defense is trying to mount a smear campaign making the DA look like s/he is hiding something.

Any of these are possible and have happened in other trials. So I don't know how you or I or anyone else not on the inside can form an "opinion". Random guess, maybe, but not an opinion, as I understand the term.

ETA because the "advertisers" didn't like an adjective I used that refers to a horse-like animal.