4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109

I'm sorry but this is not enough evidence to prove this is the King Rd DoorDash driver.

Sounds weird. The guy showing the video doesn't even know for sure. Good grief, no wonder there is a gag order.

Guy isn't even sure what she is saying. Ridiculous in my opinion.

Please do not believe opinions, check out legitimate MSM.

Again, my opinion.
The guy showing the video is Gray Hughes, and he is basically fact checking throughout the video. He presents the info he finds and then you can decide for yourself what to believe.
The audio is bad sometimes, it's hard to make out what she is saying.
 
They did a very good job hiding her identity till now.
I am just happy to hear that a door dash driver actually exists. I dont know why she would lie to the police about that ,its not like thay couldnt confirm it in 2.5 seconds. Im sure she is on file somewhere,
The rest I am just going to ignore because you know whats probably coming next, questioning her credibility, which is unfortunate in this case.
LE certainly know if this woman was the DD driver. Door Dash certainly knows, and that would have been likely one of the very first things LE learned after the murders. The camera at 1112 King Road, among others, that picked up BK's car circling the area of the home almost certainly also would have picked up the DD vehicle, and can likely validate or invalidate her claim of being there at the same time that he was. . This woman's initials match the MM (not Maddie Mogen) Door Dash, on one of the court docs, and she told of her husband being shot to death a few years earlier, which GH did verify. To what extent she may have actually seen BK that morning, I am uncertain, but I have no doubt that her claim of being the DD driver at King Rd are true. JMO

ETA...He is not the most dynamic of speakers, but Gray Hughes is an accepted source here, and he has been right on the money with most everything he has reported on this case. JMO
 
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Right, but it could call her credibility into question if defense finds a way to get this interview into evidence and IMO, it could be a blow to prosecution if that is the DD driver. Depending on the reason, you know.
I dont even want to ask, but what part do you think could be a problem (re credibility)
I want to compare notes :)
 
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I dont even want to ask, but what part do you think could be a problem (re credibility)
I want to compare notes :)
I can't respond to that at this time. It would be speculation based on something not yet being discussed in msm so not appropriate. I was just stating I need more information to decide on things. Just the video is not enough for me to say, yep, that's the DD driver and she saw *whatever*.
 
I can't respond to that at this time. It would be speculation based on something not yet being discussed in msm so not appropriate. I was just stating I need more information to decide on things. Just the video is not enough for me to say, yep, that's the DD driver and she saw *whatever*.
I totally get it.
 
About the video of the Door Dash driver. I appreciate ttjo alerting me to this information.
Let's not post the video until we are sure this is something connected to the case.
Since Gray Hughes posted it and he is an approved source I'd like to make a compromise.
You can watch it on Gray's channel, but let's not post it here. If you want to discuss the video only use her initials. Here is the link to Gray's channel. This is not the direct link to the video but you can find it there. Gray Hughes Investigates
I'm trying to give everyone something to work with without dragging this woman's name through the media. This may change as more information becomes available.

Tricia
 
About the video of the Door Dash driver. I appreciate ttjo alerting me to this information.
Let's not post the video until we are sure this is something connected to the case.
Since Gray Hughes posted it and he is an approved source I'd like to make a compromise.
You can watch it on Gray's channel, but let's not post it here. If you want to discuss the video only use her initials. Here is the link to Gray's channel. This is not the direct link to the video but you can find it there. Gray Hughes Investigates
I'm trying to give everyone something to work with without dragging this woman's name through the media. This may change as more information becomes available.

Tricia
Thank you Tricia!
 
I could be missing something but we will find out at trial. Plus, people do lie to the police all the time but maybe she is trying to tell it as she remembers. People do remember different versions of thiings. Pretty notorious for that. Like 4 witnesses can have different accounts.

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I think we're actually in agreement overall. My beef overall was that this woman regardless of what she saw/didn't see, has had what she likely believed was a private interview with LE being splattered all over YouTube and, has become a target for probergers off the back of it 😔
I argued it's validity at its core, this woman matches the court initials of the DD driver and I have no reason to believe that she would lie about this to an officer sat in an interview room in a cop shop, when it had no ties to why she was there at the time of the recording. As for what she stated, who knows and that's what we will hear at trial.

Props to Tricia for her attempts to protect this lady whilst permitting us to loosely discuss it. I genuinely feel so bad for her.
 
I think we're actually in agreement overall. My beef overall was that this woman regardless of what she saw/didn't see, has had what she likely believed was a private interview with LE being splattered all over YouTube and, has become a target for probergers off the back of it 😔
I argued it's validity at its core, this woman matches the court initials of the DD driver and I have no reason to believe that she would lie about this to an officer sat in an interview room in a cop shop, when it had no ties to why she was there at the time of the recording. As for what she stated, who knows and that's what we will hear at trial.

Props to Tricia for her attempts to protect this lady whilst permitting us to loosely discuss it. I genuinely feel so bad for her.
I believe this woman was the DD driver that delivered to the house at about the same time that BK was arriving or just there, but I have changed some of my thoughts about the delivery. Gray Hughes suggested in a video, a while back, that, based on coordinates from DD information submitted, with a couple digits not able to be clearly read, that the delivery may have been made to the rear slider, instead of the front door. I thought that made sense at the time, as Xana might have made such a request, as she would have been on that level, and could have gotten the delivery without going downstairs and disturbing a possibly-sleeping BF. After now seeing the video of the alleged DD driver, I am not convinced that she would have physically been able to negotiate the hill on the back side of the home, especially at night, and most likely, imo, may have indeed delivered the order to the front door. This also has me wondering if perhaps she was still parked and sitting near the front of the house, maybe even in the driveway area, while BK was parking, or parked alongside the house, and slipping in the slider. JMO
 
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I do believe this woman was the DD driver that delivered to the house at about the same time that BK was arriving or just there. I have changed my thoughts about the delivery. Gray Hughes suggested in a video, that, based on coordinates from DD information submitted, with a couple digits not able to be clearly read, that the delivery may have been made to the rear slider. I thought that made sense at the time, as Xana would have been on that level, and she could have gotten the delivery without going downstairs and disturbing a possibly-sleeping BF, by going to front door. After now seeing the video of the alleged DD driver, I am not convinced that she would have physically been able to negotiate the hill on the back side of the home, especially at night, and most likely, imo, may have indeed delivered the order to the front door. This also has me wondering if perhaps she was still parked and sitting near the front of the house, maybe even in the driveway area, while BK was parking, or parked alongside the house, and slipping in the slider. JMO

I'm with you -- so many questions. Left to guessing.

While we can only speculate, LE knows the answers to those puzzlers. DD likely snapped a photo, as proof of delivery. Timestamps galore.

But for all of AT's big talk about BK driving "just not over there" and "not stopping", we've only seen limited video footage -- if BK is on camera, so was DD. If GH can put together a compelling video with just what's in the public domain, the State is sure to have a video montage that shows how the Elantra and the DD car did their dance.

On his loops, there is missing time between cameras, where BK was either driving really slowly or stopped. Depending on where the DD driver parked, might she have parked right next to where he parked? Lights off, she might not have realized anyone was in the car... unless she got near enough.

It was a normal delivery night IMO. Her mind on the delivery. If she parked next to another car, glanced in a window as she walked past to deliver the food, she could have seen BK who then might have driven away quickly, hardly worth noting for her.... until.

Between 3:56 and 4:09am, BK did some seriously concentrated driving in and around 1122. Several opportunities to see, pass, stop and go, all in relation to the DD car, a variable he apparently failed to factor for.

Really curious to see how that all unfolded-- and all the ways AT tried to fold it into something else.

Fold it all the ways you can, AT, it's not a swan.

JMO
 
Tiptoes in...it's so quiet, I hope there isn't a storm coming...
This may be the calm before the storm. I am hoping for Hurricane Hippler to make landfall in Ada County Courthouse on Wednesday, about lunchtime, and to blow away the last few remnants of BK's house of cards defense, aka, the alternate perpetrator claim, as well as any other obstacles that might prevent this case from starting on Aug 11.

In the words of the state, "It's time to try this case." JMO
 
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I’m falling behind because I’m in Florida taking care of my parents, so forgive me that I’m not up-to-date. I’m sure this has been discussed already, but I just saw something here yesterday, briefly, about this woman being questioned as the DD driver.

My first reaction was “no way.” Maybe it’s the cynical and cautious New Yorker in me, but I cannot imagine a woman alone at 4 AM driving to a party house.

Thinking it over, if she was interviewed by LE, I guess it’s true that if they know from Door Dash and/or surveillance footage that the DD driver was a man, they wouldn’t bother with her. So perhaps she is the driver.

I don’t know. Need to catch up on WS, on sleep, and on air conditioning. 🙂
 
I’m falling behind because I’m in Florida taking care of my parents, so forgive me that I’m not up-to-date. I’m sure this has been discussed already, but I just saw something here yesterday, briefly, about this woman being questioned as the DD driver.

My first reaction was “no way.” Maybe it’s the cynical and cautious New Yorker in me, but I cannot imagine a woman alone at 4 AM driving to a party house.

Thinking it over, if she was interviewed by LE, I guess it’s true that if they know from Door Dash and/or surveillance footage that the DD driver was a man, they wouldn’t bother with her. So perhaps she is the driver.

I don’t know. Need to catch up on WS, on sleep, and on air conditioning. 🙂
Exactly the same for me, I have totally missed the bit about a female DD driver too!
Surely she will have given a statement at the time!? And if so..surely IF she had anything credible to add she will be called as a witness by prosecution?
Are we not supposed to know about this? Is it leaked info hence it's on the hush hush? 🤐
 
Exactly the same for me, I have totally missed the bit about a female DD driver too!
Surely she will have given a statement at the time!? And if so..surely IF she had anything credible to add she will be called as a witness by prosecution?
Are we not supposed to know about this? Is it leaked info hence it's on the hush hush? 🤐
It was originally found and posted on a site that is not accepted, and probergers have apparently seized on the video and have drug the poor woman through the mud, going so far as to name her. Gray Hughes picked up on the video and posted a portion of it on his site, which IS accepted, but for now, Tricia is allowing us to kinda loosely discuss it, but will not allow the video itself to be posted here, and we may only refer to her by initials, for the time being, at least. The video was from Sept, 2024, and had nothing to do with the Kohberger case, although she did talk to the interviewer about it to some extent.
 
This may be the calm before the storm. I am hoping for Hurricane Hippler to make landfall in Ada County Courthouse on Wednesday, about lunchtime, and to blow away the last few remnants of BK's house of cards defense, aka, the alternate perpetrator claim, as well as any other obstacles that might prevent this case from starting on Aug 11.

In the words of the state, "It's time to try this case." JMO
What he said.
 

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