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I'm obsessed with good footnotes. You often find the real 'meat' of the matter there.
Go Judge Hippler...it's Hammer time. Can't touch this.
4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109
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alt suspects:
Three of the individuals were each socially connected to one or more of the victims, interacted with one or more of the victims at social events in the hours prior to the homicide, lived within walking distance of the crime scene' and were familiar with the layout of the victims' home from prior social events...
Oh, but you see Judge, what AT is trying to say here is that the white Elantra seen on security footage over and over near the house that night is just coincidental. Totally irrelevant that its hasty departure fits with the time of DM's texts. And you know why it's helpful to have alternate suspects on foot? Because that way if suddenly new footage or enhancement of footage shows up that shows the license plate number or even magic fairies drop down timing advance records for BK and it's positive that the car seen in the footage in the neighborhood was BK's car, then BK can suddenly recall that "oh, yeah, I remember now that I drove through that neighborhood that night because I was doing an experiment to test how a murderer might surveil a house/got lost because I'm really bad with directions and back streets/was doing my own personal rounds of the neighborhood to watch out for any sick criminals who might prey upon unsuspecting college students" and still be fine.....because after all, everyone knows the REAL killers were on foot.
I'd LOVE to know if she proposed that any or all of those three alt suspects who were socially connected worked together to commit the crime. Those murders definitely look like crimes committed by two or more drunken students from the bar or the frat party, ya know.
Not surprised she tried to toss the awkward guy from the store under the bus.
Three of the individuals were each socially connected to one or more of the victims, interacted with one or more of the victims at social events in the hours prior to the homicide, lived within walking distance of the crime scene' and were familiar with the layout of the victims' home from prior social events...
Oh, but you see Judge, what AT is trying to say here is that the white Elantra seen on security footage over and over near the house that night is just coincidental. Totally irrelevant that its hasty departure fits with the time of DM's texts. And you know why it's helpful to have alternate suspects on foot? Because that way if suddenly new footage or enhancement of footage shows up that shows the license plate number or even magic fairies drop down timing advance records for BK and it's positive that the car seen in the footage in the neighborhood was BK's car, then BK can suddenly recall that "oh, yeah, I remember now that I drove through that neighborhood that night because I was doing an experiment to test how a murderer might surveil a house/got lost because I'm really bad with directions and back streets/was doing my own personal rounds of the neighborhood to watch out for any sick criminals who might prey upon unsuspecting college students" and still be fine.....because after all, everyone knows the REAL killers were on foot.
I'd LOVE to know if she proposed that any or all of those three alt suspects who were socially connected worked together to commit the crime. Those murders definitely look like crimes committed by two or more drunken students from the bar or the frat party, ya know.
Not surprised she tried to toss the awkward guy from the store under the bus.
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Gotta say, after the Richard Allen trial and Judge Gull, the wealth of these lengthy, detailed, and extremely precise written rulings is nearly overwhelming.
Definitely helps prevent AT from saying the judge made a snap decision.
Definitely helps prevent AT from saying the judge made a snap decision.
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I thought at first that these were footnotes on the original order, and I felt guilty for judging Judge Hippler for accusing law enforcement and the prosecution of malfeasance.
But I see now that the footnotes are included in that gem of a document Hippler gifted to each of us here today.
And I also see now that the only reason I feared what Hippler would do is that I trusted Anne Taylor’s interpretation of his order in her motion to continue and her response to the State’s opposition to that motion.
AT is a sneaky one, and unlike me, Hippler can’t be snuck.
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Judge Hippler is a rock star.I'm obsessed with good footnotes. You often find the real 'meat' of the matter there.
Go Judge Hippler...it's Hammer time. Can't touch this.
He's doing everything in his power to make his rulings bullet-proof upon appeal.
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No kidding! He has the best footnotes. So much is hidden there in plain sight.I'm obsessed with good footnotes. You often find the real 'meat' of the matter there.
Go Judge Hippler...it's Hammer time. Can't touch this.
I also have to put in a plug for the prosecution’s appended documents. Gold mines, I tell you.
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And there it is , in a little golden nutshell! He's so so good at this!
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Since the pointing of the finger at four innocent people by the defense, trying to drag them into this, I have even less respect for AT. Ready to ruin lives on behalf of a demonic killer. It's dreadful. There's defending someone, and then there's evil. MOO. I just pray that whoever is a leaker doesn't leak the names.
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Denial of continuance:
And in the footnotes we find the reason for the week delay in the start of trial:
21. In his reply, Defendant argues that the allotted time is not sufficient for voir dire given the "vast media coverage." The Court recognizes that more time may be needed and has built in additional days for voir dire for this purpose.
I would be willing to watch all 90,000 hours of security footage for Anne Taylor in exchange for getting to read the unredacted version of this filing. Heck, Hippler even says in a footnote on the bottom of the first page that he doesn't think most of this needed to be filed ex parte, but he is redacting it out of an overabundance of caution.
1. Defendant Has Not Demonstrated a Continuance is Warranted to Review Discovery.
Oh, Anne, Anne, Anne. Every student knows you do NOT just go to a professor or teacher and say you need an extension of a due date without being able to tell them when you predict/promise to get it done by and what you plan to do in order to meet that new date (as well as SPECIFIC reasons as to why you need it). And if your teacher then gives you some resources/suggestions of what you can do in order to get it done on time, and you don't take any of that advice, wait until you are right before the new deadline and come to him again with the same line....it's not going to work.
"Defendant's continual reference to the number of terabytes of discovery produced in this case is not helpful without providing a meaningful explanation of what that data primarily consists of and its particular relevance and importance. Indeed, as was discussed at the April 9, 2025, hearing in this case, it appears that most of those terabytes consists of extensive video surveillance from local businesses and residences that show nothing of significance."
And another gem of a footnote:
"8. Relevant here, too, is the fact that defense counsel did not argue for a continuance as an alternate remedy to Defendant's attempt to strike the death penalty because of counsel's alleged inability to get through the discovery. This highlights that his claims regarding the volume of discovery were used as a tactical sword, untethered to a seriously legitimate concern about the ability to be prepared."
2. Defendant Has Not Established a Continuance is Necessary to Conduct A More Thorough "Life History" Investigation and Identify Necessary Experts
What did she discover last November that she insists must be more throughly plumbed because it raises red flags on something she thinks should be used for mitigation, even though none of his experts have brought this up as a concern and it could take forever because of redacted complications??? THIS IS WHAT I'M DYING TO KNOW. What theory or diagnosis does she think should be made even though she's not an expert. What barriers does she think she would be able to "overcome with time?" Is that people won't talk to you if they feel they have nothing to say?
What is it that she is speculating on, that Hippler even appears to say she is unqualified to do? I think we might get a tiny hint from this partial sentence that follows a large redacted bit:
"conditions which are currently attributed by his own mitigation experts to his ASD, OCD and/or ADHD--are consistent with childhood trauma" and then goes on to list an item 5 (so, 1-4 are redacted). The expert witnesses who examined BK aren't suggesting this. And it's something that none of his REDACTED have ever raised the alarm on despite having the same info that someone (presumably Anne) is relying on to come up with this suggestion.
"who, again, is not even marginally qualified to opine" and "Her support--which she has not provided to the court" all together in a highly redacted paragraph, after us being told in the previous paragraphs that none of the expert witnesses who have interviewed BK have said this....IMHO, that tells me that this is solely coming from Anne. And in the next paragraph we see it is about something she thinks would cause his experts to change his diagnoses.
I know the State only received the same redacted version--I wonder if they think they know what she is driving at.
And reaffirming this: based on the US Supreme Court, "the ABA Guidelines are not dogmatic code; they are simply roadmaps to aid counsel in complying with their obligations of representation."
SO MANY REDACTED FOOTNOTES....you know given his other footnotes that they continue some really interesting stuff....
And in the footnotes we find the reason for the week delay in the start of trial:
21. In his reply, Defendant argues that the allotted time is not sufficient for voir dire given the "vast media coverage." The Court recognizes that more time may be needed and has built in additional days for voir dire for this purpose.
I would be willing to watch all 90,000 hours of security footage for Anne Taylor in exchange for getting to read the unredacted version of this filing. Heck, Hippler even says in a footnote on the bottom of the first page that he doesn't think most of this needed to be filed ex parte, but he is redacting it out of an overabundance of caution.
1. Defendant Has Not Demonstrated a Continuance is Warranted to Review Discovery.
Oh, Anne, Anne, Anne. Every student knows you do NOT just go to a professor or teacher and say you need an extension of a due date without being able to tell them when you predict/promise to get it done by and what you plan to do in order to meet that new date (as well as SPECIFIC reasons as to why you need it). And if your teacher then gives you some resources/suggestions of what you can do in order to get it done on time, and you don't take any of that advice, wait until you are right before the new deadline and come to him again with the same line....it's not going to work.
"Defendant's continual reference to the number of terabytes of discovery produced in this case is not helpful without providing a meaningful explanation of what that data primarily consists of and its particular relevance and importance. Indeed, as was discussed at the April 9, 2025, hearing in this case, it appears that most of those terabytes consists of extensive video surveillance from local businesses and residences that show nothing of significance."
And another gem of a footnote:
"8. Relevant here, too, is the fact that defense counsel did not argue for a continuance as an alternate remedy to Defendant's attempt to strike the death penalty because of counsel's alleged inability to get through the discovery. This highlights that his claims regarding the volume of discovery were used as a tactical sword, untethered to a seriously legitimate concern about the ability to be prepared."
2. Defendant Has Not Established a Continuance is Necessary to Conduct A More Thorough "Life History" Investigation and Identify Necessary Experts
What did she discover last November that she insists must be more throughly plumbed because it raises red flags on something she thinks should be used for mitigation, even though none of his experts have brought this up as a concern and it could take forever because of redacted complications??? THIS IS WHAT I'M DYING TO KNOW. What theory or diagnosis does she think should be made even though she's not an expert. What barriers does she think she would be able to "overcome with time?" Is that people won't talk to you if they feel they have nothing to say?
What is it that she is speculating on, that Hippler even appears to say she is unqualified to do? I think we might get a tiny hint from this partial sentence that follows a large redacted bit:
"conditions which are currently attributed by his own mitigation experts to his ASD, OCD and/or ADHD--are consistent with childhood trauma" and then goes on to list an item 5 (so, 1-4 are redacted). The expert witnesses who examined BK aren't suggesting this. And it's something that none of his REDACTED have ever raised the alarm on despite having the same info that someone (presumably Anne) is relying on to come up with this suggestion.
"who, again, is not even marginally qualified to opine" and "Her support--which she has not provided to the court" all together in a highly redacted paragraph, after us being told in the previous paragraphs that none of the expert witnesses who have interviewed BK have said this....IMHO, that tells me that this is solely coming from Anne. And in the next paragraph we see it is about something she thinks would cause his experts to change his diagnoses.
I know the State only received the same redacted version--I wonder if they think they know what she is driving at.
And reaffirming this: based on the US Supreme Court, "the ABA Guidelines are not dogmatic code; they are simply roadmaps to aid counsel in complying with their obligations of representation."
SO MANY REDACTED FOOTNOTES....you know given his other footnotes that they continue some really interesting stuff....
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But Hippler noted that interest in the case has only grown and that previous delays have only given the media more time to “provide coverage to a public audience which is clamoring for answers.”
“The longer the public is made to sit and wait for the facts to come out at trial, the more time there is for inflammatory, speculative stories, movies and books to circulate and more time for prior ones to be rebroadcast, purchased, viewed and consumed by the public,” he wrote.
Hippler also denied the defense's request to present evidence of four “alternate perpetrators” to jurors, after finding that evidence was flimsy at best and would lead to “wild speculation," needlessly dragging out a trial that is already expected to last three months.
“There is not a scintilla of competent evidence connecting them to the crime."
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“Nothing links these individuals to the homicides or otherwise gives rise to a reasonable inference that they committed the crime; indeed, it would take nothing short of rank speculation by the jury to make such a finding,” Hippler wrote in the order.
The names of the four were redacted from the ruling, but Hippler briefly described them: Three of the people were socially connected to at least one of the victims, and interacted with them socially in the hours before the killings, lived within walking distance of the home and had been to the home before. The fourth person had only a “passing connection” to one victim after noticing her at a store several weeks before the deaths, Hippler said.
All four cooperated with investigators, and their DNA didn't match samples taken at the crime scene, Hippler said, and there is no admissible or significant evidence that any one of them had a motive, was present at the crime scene or was otherwise connected to the crime.
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“The longer the public is made to sit and wait for the facts to come out at trial, the more time there is for inflammatory, speculative stories, movies and books to circulate and more time for prior ones to be rebroadcast, purchased, viewed and consumed by the public,” he wrote.
Hippler also denied the defense's request to present evidence of four “alternate perpetrators” to jurors, after finding that evidence was flimsy at best and would lead to “wild speculation," needlessly dragging out a trial that is already expected to last three months.
“There is not a scintilla of competent evidence connecting them to the crime."
Idaho judge rejects Bryan Kohberger's request to delay murder trial in college student stabbings
An Idaho judge says he won't postpone the quadruple murder trial of a man accused in the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho students
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“Nothing links these individuals to the homicides or otherwise gives rise to a reasonable inference that they committed the crime; indeed, it would take nothing short of rank speculation by the jury to make such a finding,” Hippler wrote in the order.
The names of the four were redacted from the ruling, but Hippler briefly described them: Three of the people were socially connected to at least one of the victims, and interacted with them socially in the hours before the killings, lived within walking distance of the home and had been to the home before. The fourth person had only a “passing connection” to one victim after noticing her at a store several weeks before the deaths, Hippler said.
All four cooperated with investigators, and their DNA didn't match samples taken at the crime scene, Hippler said, and there is no admissible or significant evidence that any one of them had a motive, was present at the crime scene or was otherwise connected to the crime.
Idaho judge rejects Bryan Kohberger's request to delay murder trial in college student stabbings | Times News Online
BOISE, Idaho (AP) — An Idaho judge says he won't postpone the quadruple murder trial of a man accused in the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho students. Fourth District Judge Steven Hippler...
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So this guy is lucky he was not named. He would be forever known as a creeper, and mercilessly harassed by the Kohberger groupie freaks.
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That’s it! How can she do it? Defense is required to make sure the prosecution follows the rules and to get the best outcome for their client, not to cynically help their client get away with a heinous crime.
Can you imagine if AT had gotten the knife sheath thrown out? All the “fruits of the poisonous tree” would have also been thrown out and BK would be a free man, free to slaughter the next unsuspecting set of beautiful human beings.
It shouldn’t be the State only that is tasked with justice. That should be everyone’s goal. We are all part of a community, and we should all work to protect it and to ensure each member has the opportunity to thrive.
IMOO, of course.
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I was hoping that Hippler would kindly offer to start the voir dire a month or so early so Anne Taylor wouldn’t have to worry about having enough time to select a jury to her liking.
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The smack that was heard 'round the world.
Put. In. Her. Place.
And you know what her list of alternate suspects, even redacted, reads like?
What happens in the aftermath of a violent crime -- polling families for anyone at all who might have an association with the victims. Parents, scouring their brains, for anything, anyone that might help LE solve the crime. Is this The Tip AT claims to have found buried in the discovery she claims is so huge she hasn't read it all?
People who, we find out, were investigated, fully cooperated and were ruled out.
Happy to see Judge Hippler put the hammer down hard.
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It has been a long while since I have followed a case where I felt like the judge had complete command of and control of the case. I believe Judge Hippler is the absolute perfect judge for this trial, and I cannot help but wonder how many times now that AT has wished that she had not pushed for a change of venue. Judge Hippler is no Judge Judge. JMO
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Lemme, lemme, lemme guess!
I bet BK has a 73rd cousin who has something like schizophrenia. There'd be zero evidence that BK has it, AT would be taking his history playdoughing it into a disease he doesn't have. Bet that's her red flag. Make he has it because a distant relative did. Of course, I'm only guessing but whatever it is, Judge Hippler ain't having it. "Fishing expedition"... pulling on "every thread of the family tapestry"....
Here's another possibility for you, AT --
Maybe BK has a rather unremarkable (typical), had more opportunities and resources in his favor than we are used to see, but is just a pretty terrible human being who, when faced with life choices as we all are, chooses dark ones and delights in them.
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Yay. Can't wait to read these!
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