A different Lens? Your thoughts?

[Jules71]

Hi all - first time poster, here!

I find interesting this comment made by LE (8-11-10):

"Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

I haven't been aware of this detail until now, and do not recall hearing this during the presser. Perhaps this, too, may explain LE beginning to view things through a different lens, now that at least one witness has come forward with this information. I'm aware that LE has been looking for a possible accomplice for some time, and this seems to (hopefully) cement things rather solidly, at least in terms of some actual (or possible, unsubstantiated?) sightings. I understand that LE is calling for more witnesses to verify this information, and deeply hope that something will come of this!

Welcome to WS!! You are right, we need to confirm this report. I don't recall these particular specifics from the presser either. We need to compare this with the transcription from the presser. I looked, but can't find it and I need to get to bed.

 

[Calliope]

I'm really wondering if, at this point, they are as sure as they were that Terri was involved. I'm wondering if the different lens is, "Holy crap, she might be innocent. Who else could've done this?"

This.

God help us all ... and God help Kyron.

 

[Emma Peel]

Hi all - first time poster, here!

I find interesting this comment made by LE (8-11-10):

"Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

I haven't been aware of this detail until now, and do not recall hearing this during the presser. Perhaps this, too, may explain LE beginning to view things through a different lens, now that at least one witness has come forward with this information. I'm aware that LE has been looking for a possible accomplice for some time, and this seems to (hopefully) cement things rather solidly, at least in terms of some actual (or possible, unsubstantiated?) sightings. I understand that LE is calling for more witnesses to verify this information, and deeply hope that something will come of this!

Good find. Makes my head spin. :crazy: Thanks a lot.

(No, really ... thanks!) :biggrin:

Now what are they thinking - that someone moved Terri's truck up the gravel driveway while Terri & Kyron were in the school? :waitasec:

This case makes my head hurt. :banghead:

 

[revampz]

I cant understand how people think it was dede in the truck.........

wasnt she landscaping in a garden and left about 11am????

that would mean terri and kyron picked her up on the way to the school and then she would have had to drop her straight off to work.....have they said what time dede started the landscaping that day???

 

[Calliope]

Welcome to WS!! You are right, we need to confirm this report. I don't recall these particular specifics from the presser either. We need to compare this with the transcription from the presser. I looked, but can't find it and I need to get to bed.

I don't either.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair."

I'm quite sure the 't DA didn't say anything of the sort, unless it came out after the PC in the 'off the record' meeting.

I had thought the reason why they showed the truck on Skyline and then the access road by the field was because Terri had claimed to have parked in one place, but witnesses placed her truck somewhere else.

 

[Emma Peel]

I cant understand how people think it was dede in the truck.........

wasnt she landscaping in a garden and left about 11am????

that would mean terri and kyron picked her up on the way to the school and then she would have had to drop her straight off to work.....have they said what time dede started the landscaping that day???

Recent reporting (MSM) actually have her missing from work from 9-ish until 1-ish. Dede's window got huge and now matches Terri's....

 

[Calliope]

Recent reporting (MSM) actually have her missing from work from 9-ish until 1-ish. Dede's window got huge and now matches Terri's....

WTH ?

Arg.

Did she even show up that morning?

What happened to the "reliable witnesses" that said she "abruptly" left at 11:15 ?

 

[wondering1]

I don't either.



I'm quite sure the 't DA didn't say anything of the sort, unless it came out after the PC in the 'off the record' meeting.

I had thought the reason why they showed the truck on Skyline and then the access road by the field was because Terri had claimed to have parked in one place, but witnesses placed her truck somewhere else.

The DA ultimately confirmed that "a witness or witnesses" saw the truck at the pictured locations. I accidentally closed the link to the vid before I could post, but I thinks it's at about 13:50. The DA comes back and changes his mind about confirming this.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Was the truck seen at the gym? or could have someone used it while tmh set up an alibi for that time.

 

[Emma Peel]

This would be why Dede's wanted picture with the truck.

Terri & Kyron could have picked Dede up at work (?) or Dede could have driven to meet them at school...

Dede stays in Terri's truck & waits for cue. Dede drives up path on cue.

Terri in school with Kyron.

Says goodbye to Kyron (tells Kyron to meet Dede out the gravel driveway door and they'll go somewhere cool). Terri leaves school building another way - chats on the way out - so as not to be seen leaving with Kyron and meets Dede & Kyron outside of school at some point? Either in Dede's car, or a third party car, or just hop in the White Truck with Dede & Kyron in it.

But, for the life of me, I don't know why they'd want to make it so complicated.

Good grief. :bedtime:

 

[Mamietwo]

WTH ?

Arg.

Did she even show up that morning?

What happened to the "reliable witnesses" that said she "abruptly" left at 11:15 ?

If it was someone she was working with, could she have asked that person to lie for her if the client asked where she was? And then that person repeated the story that got to the news hawks?

 

[Calliope]

If it was someone she was working with, could she have asked that person to lie for her if the client asked where she was? And then that person repeated the story that got to the news hawks?

Well this is just getting ridiculous. I swear it feels like we're back at square one. I defended LE early on in this case. I'm not so inclined any longer.

 

[Emma Peel]

WTH ?

Arg.

Did she even show up that morning?

What happened to the "reliable witnesses" that said she "abruptly" left at 11:15 ?

Not clear on that. It's late here, but there IS a source & it's on the threads - from this AM even.

I THINK, IIRC, that 2 workers were clarified as not being able to find her at 9. They couldn't reach her by phone, didn't know where she was. And again around 11, and then Terri showed up after noon at at that 1-ish time. Not sure if they first saw Dede at work early in the morning or she was just scheduled to be there.

 

[Emma Peel]

Well this is just getting ridiculous. I swear it feels like we're back at square one. I defended LE early on in this case. I'm not so inclined any longer.

Well, we ain't workin' with a full deck. We can hope LE is.

It's frustrating.

 

[Mamietwo]

The DA ultimately confirmed that "a witness or witnesses" saw the truck at the pictured locations. I accidentally closed the link to the vid before I could post, but I thinks it's at about 13:50. The DA comes back and changes his mind about confirming this.

What site did you go to for the video? I haven't heard the whole thing and I was gone today when it was live.

TIA!

 

[Emma Peel]

Calliope:

http://www.kgw.com/news/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html

That's got the Spicher gone for 3+ hours info.

There's a thread on it here:
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111418"]Spicher was gone 3+ hours on day Kyron vanished - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[eyes4crime]

Hi all - first time poster, here!

I find interesting this comment made by LE (8-11-10):

"Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

I haven't been aware of this detail until now, and do not recall hearing this during the presser. Perhaps this, too, may explain LE beginning to view things through a different lens, now that at least one witness has come forward with this information. I'm aware that LE has been looking for a possible accomplice for some time, and this seems to (hopefully) cement things rather solidly, at least in terms of some actual (or possible, unsubstantiated?) sightings. I understand that LE is calling for more witnesses to verify this information, and deeply hope that something will come of this!

Hi Pugnolia!

WELCOME TO WS!​

Thanks for posting the video again - listened to it and you're right - they didn't mention that Terri's car was moved. Maybe off the record - it was mentioned to media? Thanks for your thoughts!

 

[Emma Peel]

Alright you guys, I'll look forward to seeing how y'all solved this in the morning. Night all!

 

[eyes4crime]

Was there going to be some more e-mails tonight? Anyone? Or did I miss them? TIA

 

[Calliope]

Calliope:

http://www.kgw.com/news/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html

That's got the Spicher gone for 3+ hours info.

There's a thread on it here:
Spicher was gone 3+ hours on day Kyron vanished - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Lord help me. I saw that. I need some sleep. Thanks Emma.