Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #180

[vinayd]

Question.. was the "Odinist" angle a part of the discovery RA took a bite of? If so maybe that's why he decided to utter that to his lawyers?

Noticed in that document his height is confirmed at 5'5".

 

[Emma Peel]

2024 4/11 Allen Memorandum.pdf.pdf

yeah, that's the money.

 

[vinayd]

yeah, that's the money.

Got more to read but they are pretty much telling us the extent of these confessions!

 

[sunshineray]

Could these exclusion of public access filings be in regards to his mental and medical health records, which are part of discovery now?

Weren't those already filed by the defense under seal?

 

[Salah11]

I am watching football ( soccer) so can’t read yet so they have explained what the confessions contained?

 

[vinayd]

I am watching football ( soccer) so can’t read yet so they have explained what the confessions contained?

oh you gotta get into these docs No words about the confessions to his wife or mom.

ETA: Snippets
2024 4/11 Allen Memorandum.pdf.pdf

pg 9:

 

[sunshineray]

04/11/2024	Motion to Suppress Filed Motion to Suppress Statements Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 04/11/2024
04/11/2024	Memorandum/Brief Filed Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant Allen's Motion to Suppress Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 04/11/2024
04/11/2024	Motion Filed Motion for Leave of Court to Conduct Inmate Depositions Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 04/11/2024

So defense wants to depose RA and use that at trial instead of RA taking the stand? Is that what would/could happen? Nahh that can't happeen right?

 

[justtrish]

Well... RA wants to unburden his soul to everyone that would listen. They should just let him take the stand at this point.

If he is innocent, I think this is the only way things can be cleared up. I know he has a right to not testify and I doubt he will, but if I were him and I was 100% innocent, then I would take the stand. I would explain everything.. when/how I contacted the conservation officer and what I said, where I was, who I saw, and where I parked. I'd say exactly what was going on in the prison with the guards, I would explain why I confessed. It would go a long way coming from him and if it's the truth, I think it would be believable. If it's all hogwash, I think it would come across that way.

If those confessions are allowed in, I don't see how a lawyer or another witness can explain on your behalf why you confessed to a crime you didn't do. If I was a juror, I'd want to hear it from him, why he felt threatened, why he felt he had to confess and explain any medical issues I had that contributed to it. It doesn't come across the same way if others try to explain why you felt pressured to confess to your wife.

 

[sunshineray]

2024 4/11 Allen Motion.pdf.pdf

Gee his wife and mother are being consider State agents? Or are there others that RA confessed to... the warden, the guards, other inmates they now want to depose?

 

[steeltowngirl]

If this report is truthful, no sexual assault. (Noting that we’ve previously discussed that SA can occur without physical signs.)

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I wonder the same; could these be exhibits and witness lists only? One good run on sentence deserve a run on sentence reply, so that's cool. Sweet plea dreams to you.

Many thanks!
It’s a bit of a mystery what it is all about.
I don’t know, everything just feels different in the last week and a half or so. Quieter, more serious.

 

[FrostedGlass]

2024 4/11 Allen Memorandum.pdf.pdf

That's quite a mess. Confessed to stuff that didn't happen.

 

[layer]

If this report is truthful, no sexual assault. (Noting that we’ve previously discussed that SA can occur without physical signs.)

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Wow
That excerpt just jumps right into it

 

[justtrish]

If this report is truthful, no sexual assault. (Noting that we’ve previously discussed that SA can occur without physical signs.)

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We know their clothing was removed either by them or by the killer and to me that in itself is sexual assault. A child being asked to undress or being undressed is SA. Touching a child is SA.. he didn't have to (sorry to be graphic) insert anything or make them do anything to him or even him do anything that would leave his seman at the scene for it to be SA. If he took their clothing off and in any way touched them, THAT IS SA!

Defense can word salad it up because there is no evidence of it on their bodies (assuming no evidence of insertion of anything by leaving evidence of tissue damage, bruising, and/ or semen) does not mean that was not his motive and it doesn't mean that what he did do was not SA.

 

[steeltowngirl]

That's quite a mess. Confessed to stuff that didn't happen.

Were those confessed to other inmates?

 

[FrostedGlass]

If this report is truthful, no sexual assault. (Noting that we’ve previously discussed that SA can occur without physical signs.)

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That's the first confirmation that Dr. Khor did the autopsy. We guessed right on that one.

 

[steeltowngirl]

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We know their clothing was removed either by them or by the killer and to me that in itself is sexual assault. A child being asked to undress or being undressed is SA. Touching a child is SA.. he didn't have to (sorry to be graphic) insert anything or make them do anything to him or even him do anything that would leave his seman at the scene for it to be SA. If he took their clothing off and in any way touched them, THAT IS SA!

Defense can word salad it up because there is no evidence of it on their bodies (assuming no evidence of insertion of anything by leaving evidence of tissue damage, bruising, and/ or semen) does not mean that was not his motive and it doesn't mean that what he did do was not SA.

^100 percent THIS.

 

[Salah11]

oh you gotta get into these docs No words about the confessions to his wife or mom.

ETA: Snippets
2024 4/11 Allen Memorandum.pdf.pdf

pg 9:
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He ate his own poo and drunk toilet water?

Well this would be documented by the prisons if true so let’s see if this really did happen.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Were those confessed to other inmates?

I just glanced through it. Some names are mentioned, as well as him having "companions."

 

[WildHuncher]

I smell a ploy. Did the confession(s) to state agents occur after any confessions to family? Did they occur after consultations with attorneys after confessions to family? Why is there as yet no motion to suppress confessions to family?