Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #10 *Arrest*

[Jake18]

Nothing at all! And it's wonderful exercise - not only does it exercise the brain, it also exercises the fingers, the the . . the ... the ..... All that.

I feel like I should decided myself here . Everyone still appreciates that, if faced with annoying exes and in-laws there’s benefit in exercise, meeting with friends, getting off a screen and finding balance by hanging out with friends in person? Right??

I feel she lacked balance and perspective

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Plus, thus far there haven’t been any social media posts or browser searches indicating Erin had an interest in the nutritional value of mushrooms, powdered or not.

Perhaps her defense will enter something into evidence but right now we’ve only read about Erin conducting taste tests on her children. That sounds (to me) more like an experiment in detecting the mushroom flavor rather than an attempt to supplement their diets. JMO

No, but we do know that Erin searched for Death Cap mushrooms. Not much nutritional value in them...

 

[LinasK]

Yep - I agree.
There is absolutely no way you need to put powdered mushrooms in brownies fgs.
Those poor children.

Yeah, it's not the equivalent of hiding Broccoli in your child's applesauce when they are a baby. I am guilty of that, but Broccoli tastes terrible, and is actually far more nutritious than mushrooms. I have tried to feed her restaurant pizza with mushrooms in the stuffed crust, she still didn't develop a taste for mushrooms. So you can't generalize.

 

[Eloise]

court is back in session, defence currently questioning Shamen Fox-Henry

Erin Patterson wanted to make 'fancy' meal for lunch guests, trial told — as it happened

Erin Patterson's triple murder trial continues from Morwell. She is charged with murdering three relatives who ate a meal she prepared which contained death cap mushrooms. Follow the trial live.

www.abc.net.au

 

[MsMarple]

4m ago

Jury is shown report on recovered computer​

By Kristian Silva​

The court is shown a copy of Mr Fox-Henry's report on the computer found in Erin Patterson's house.

The report shows three hard disks were analysed, returning combined results of 2,647,721 digital "artefacts".

The report is quickly scrolled through, showing a series of tables that generated 67 records, the court is told.

Mr Fox-Henry says the program he used, Magnet Axiom, can translate extremely detailed information on disk drives into material that is decipherable.

Defence barrister Colin Mandy SC asks if that raw information is "gobbledygook". Mr Fox-Henry says he prefers the term "data".

7m ago

Jury is shown report on recovered computer​

By Kristian Silva​

The court is shown a copy of Mr Fox-Henry's report on the computer found in Erin Patterson's house.

The report shows three hard disks were analysed, returning combined results of 2,647,721 digital "artifacts".

The report is quickly scrolled through, showing a series of tables that generated 67 records, the court is told.

Mr Fox-Henry says the program he used, Magnet Axiom, can translate extremely detailed information on disk drives into material that is decipherable.

Defence barrister Colin Mandy SC asks if that raw information is "gobbledygook". Mr Fox-Henry says he prefers the term "data".

12m ago

Questions turn to time and date settings​

By Melissa Brown​

Mr Fox-Henry is asked about time and date settings in the extractions.

He agrees a user can manually insert dates and times in the digital items.

Colin Mandy SC asks Mr Fox-Henry if he checked if the time and date settings had been manually entered.

Mr Fox-Henry says he did not.

14m ago

Data identification numbers explained​

By Melissa Brown​

Mr Fox-Henry explains that images extracted have a "hash value" - a unique identifying number for a digital artefact.

He agrees an image with a hash value that's sent to other places will keep its hash value if it’s not modified in any way.

He was asked if he ensured the hash values of the image generated from Magnet Axiom had an identical hash value to what was in the system.

"No," he answered.

Erin Patterson wanted to make 'fancy' meal for lunch guests, trial told — as it happened

Erin Patterson's triple murder trial continues from Morwell. She is charged with murdering three relatives who ate a meal she prepared which contained death cap mushrooms. Follow the trial live.

www.abc.net.au

 

[MsMarple]

Record of website searches queried​

By Melissa Brown​

Colin Mandy SC takes Mr Fox-Henry through searches found on Erin's computer.

He specifically mentions the searches on iNaturalist and the Korumburra Middle Pub record which were recorded three minutes apart.

He askes Mr Fox-Henry if someone is on one website and then opens another browser window and goes to another wesbsite, if it's possible records are still being generated by the first website if they hadn't closed the first tab.

Mr Fox-Henry replies "it would only track the URL it went to."

 

[MsMarple]

Korumburra pub purchase queried​

By Melissa Brown​

Under questioning from Colin Mandy SC, Mr Fox-Henry agrees a purchase was made at the Korumburra pub using auto-filled saved details.

He agrees that anyone using that computer could use that autofilled information unless there was a password protecting it.

He says he wasn't asked to look at the data for how the computer was used prior to 7.20pm that day.

He agrees that if he had looked at the records, he potentially may have been able to say who had used it earlier and for how long.

 

[MsMarple]

Just now

Image from tablet now shown in court​

By Kristian Silva​

The court is shown a data extraction taken from a Samsung tablet, which contained a thumbnail image of a black food dehydrator.

This was the same tablet we heard about last week, which was seized from Ms Patterson's house during the police investigation.

The "data modified" is 30/4/2023 — about three months before the lunch.

Mr Fox-Henry is being taken to the technicalities of thumbnail image sizes, in comparison to the sizes of larger photos.

He says the computer analysis program he used, Cellebrite, resizes thumbnails to make them appear bigger in reports it produces.

 

[Eloise]

Record of website searches queried​

By Melissa Brown​

Colin Mandy SC takes Mr Fox-Henry through searches found on Erin's computer.

He specifically mentions the searches on iNaturalist and the Korumburra Middle Pub record which were recorded three minutes apart.

He askes Mr Fox-Henry if someone is on one website and then opens another browser window and goes to another wesbsite, if it's possible records are still being generated by the first website if they hadn't closed the first tab.

Mr Fox-Henry replies "it would only track the URL it went to."

Is the barrister trying to imply a website will do a search for death caps on its own?

e: sorry. I meant browser

 

[MsMarple]

2m ago

Witness is asked about image shown to the court​

By Melissa Brown​

While looking at a picture of a dehydrator pulled off a Samsung tablet in Erin’s house, Mr Fox-Henry agrees that it’s not possible to say when the original images were taken or what kind of device they were taken on.

He says he could not say whether the image had been sent from someone else or who had taken the picture.

A short break is then called.

 

[MsMarple]

!!
1m ago

Court is interrupted by a person in the public gallery​

By Joseph Dunstan​

As the hearing resumes after the break, there's a sudden interruption as a man in the court stands and addresses Justice Christopher Beale.

He asks him how he can be a judge, before beginning to outline a series of allegations. He's quickly removed from the room by court staff.

As if the interruption had never occurred, the hearing resumes.

 

[MsMarple]

1m ago

Factory resets on phone discussed​

By Kristian Silva​

The court is being taken to a report about a mobile phone seized from Erin Patterson's house, known as "Phone B".

This was the phone that was factory reset three times in the week after the lunch, according to prosecutors.

According to the report, the factory resets took place on August 2, August 5, and August 6.

Mr Mandy takes Mr Fox-Henry to the times and dates listed in this report, and questions the accuracy of it, given the possibility of times being in the UTC time zone.

"Is it the case it is simply not possible to say … whether that is a UTC time or a UTC +10 or 11 time?" he asks.

"I'm unable to confirm if the UTC time has been applied or hasn't been applied," Mr Fox-Henry replies.

 

[MsMarple]

2m ago

Defence finishes questioning Mr Fox-Henry​

By Kristian Silva​

The final reset from August 6 is of particular note, given prosecutors allege it occurred after the phone had been taken by police.

Prosecutors allege it was remote-wiped.

Mr Fox-Henry confirms there's no evidence that the phone contained any data when it was reset for the final time.

Mr Mandy finishes his cross-examination.

 

[Detechtive]

2m ago

Defence finishes questioning Mr Fox-Henry​

By Kristian Silva​

The final reset from August 6 is of particular note, given prosecutors allege it occurred after the phone had been taken by police.

Prosecutors allege it was remote-wiped.

Mr Fox-Henry confirms there's no evidence that the phone contained any data when it was reset for the final time.

Mr Mandy finishes his cross-examination.

The defence case looks weaker as time goes on, imo.

 

[MsMarple]

Key Event
1m ago

Forensic pathologist takes the stand​

By Melissa Brown​

Dr Brian Beer works at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine.

He was the supervising pathologist for Heather Wilkinson's autopsy.

Key Event
1m ago

Mr Fox-Henry finishes giving evidence​

By Melissa Brown​

Earlier, the defence asked Mr Fox-Henry about hash values of data and whether he had checked the values of the data he extracted were identical to the original data (which would indicate the data had not been modified).

He says the software indicated that there not had been any mismatches.

Mr Fox-Henry has now finished giving evidence.

 

[MsMarple]

Just now

Heather Wilkinson's autopsy​

By Melissa Brown​

Dr Beer says the autopsy reveals Heather had necrosis of the liver "to the extent that all the liver cells were dead".

He says the lining of the bowel was also necrotic.

 

[MsMarple]

What a horrific way to die.

 

[MsMarple]

1m ago

Inside court​

By Joseph Dunstan​

As the court hears about the extensive internal organ damage identified in Heather Wilkinson's autopsy, her husband Ian Wilkinson watches on, sitting with family at the back of the court.

Metres away sits Erin Patterson, who appears to be closely following the hearing.

 

[Bats]

The defence case looks weaker as time goes on, imo.

Keep in mind it's not the defence's case, it's the prosecution’s.

...but i think I understand the point you are making.

 

[MsMarple]

1m ago

Don Patterson's autopsy​

By Melissa Brown​

Dr Beer takes the court through some of Heather's medical history but says none of it contributed to her death.

The prosecution then takes him to Don Patterson's autopsy.

He again tells the court they had received some police reports, medical notes from the Austin and Dandenong hospitals, and a toxicology report.

He notes Don had had a liver transplant.