Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

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Putting aside the fact that this was important to do on the defence's side, if I was a proven and repeated liar throughout my own criminal trial, and I decided to give evidence on the witness stand, would that enhance my credibility given the background evidence already presented at my trial?
 
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What a crazy day! I didn’t expect Erin to testify.
 
  • #343
The million dollar question is whether she’ll lie on the stand.

She already has IMO when she claimed to have flown back home with the baby ... the baby that SP said she left with him to deal with and drive home 5000 Km.

"We got to Townsville ... right up to the top of Cape Yorke Peninsula and Erin chose to fly just herself back to Perth," Simon told a jury of 15 people on Thursday.

He drove himself and their baby back to the west coast.


 
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Things could get very interesting tomorrow…
 
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Erin Patterson trial: Alleged mushroom poisoner called to give evidence by her defence​

The woman at the centre of the Leongatha mushroom poisoning case will take to the witness box and give evidence at her triple-murder trial.

Liam Beatty


About 3.15pm on Monday, her barrister, Colin Mandy SC, rose to his feet when asked by Justice Christopher Beale what course of action the defence would take.

“The defence will call Erin Patterson,” he said.

Moments later jurors were given an afternoon break.

The move comes after prosecutors formally closed their case against the accused woman after reading into the records a series of agreed facts.

Snip


Mushroom cook’s lunch texts aired

Under examination from prosecutor Jane Warren, Constable Eppingstall was asked to read a series of messages between Ms Patterson and Gail Patterson on July 16, 2023.

The pair initially discuss plans for Ms Patterson’s son to spend time with his grandparents, before the accused woman shifts to their lunch plans.

“Heather confirmed Saturday July 29 is good for them, hopefully it is for you too, love Erin,” Ms Patterson messaged.

Her mother-in-law responded at 2.11pm; “Sounds good to us, yes July 29 is good for us too.”

“Great thank you,” Ms Patterson replies.

Alleged poisoner changed phones frequently: court

Under cross examination from defence barrister Colin Mandy SC, Constable Eppingstall was taken through a “flow chart” that tracked Ms Patterson’s phones from 2019 to 2023.

The record indicates she changed between seven different phones, from LG, Nokia, Samsung and Oppo, nine times until August 2023.

The detective agreed the chart indicated the “reasonably frequent setting up” of phones.

Mr Mandy took Constable Eppingstall to a section of the flow chart, that showed a factory reset on February 12 was followed by Ms Patterson’s son’s SIM card being placed into the phone.

The barrister asked if this was “consistent” with the son taking over the use of that phone.

“Yes, sir,” Constable Eppingstall responded.

Mr Mandy confirmed the Telstra records indicate the SIM card “lost connection” with the network sometime between 12.01pm and 1.45pm on August 5.

It next connected in a different handset, receiving a text message at 1.44am on August 6, he said.

Constable Eppingstall agreed, saying “that’s my understanding” of the records.
 
  • #346
It’s not true that she was doing a masters of midwifery. She was doing a mathematics degree when the alleged murders occured. 😳
 
  • #347
I've wondered that too.
It's why I think the jury won't be allowed to use things like the dumping of the dehydrator and other bits and pieces when they are considering factors that prove guilt.

JMO
I don't think the judge will take the dehydrator out of the equation. When a lie is being told to investigators, it is usually allowed to be taken into consideration during deliberations. IMO
 
  • #348
10m ago07.28 BST
Patterson says in April 2009 the couple set off on another road trip. She says Simon wanted to resume travelling.

She says:

We decided to put everything in a storage unit... and do the top half of Australia.


… We followed the coast up north. We didn’t have any time pressures.”
She says they met Simon’s brother, Michael, and his partner, Tanya, in Broome before heading along the Gibb River Road.

She says the couple arrived in Townsville in November 2009.

Mandy asks how Patterson was feeling at this point.

She says it became “a lot harder” travelling with their young son. She says:

I’d had a gutful.”
Patterson then flew back to Perth. Simon flew back five to seven days later, the court hears.

Patterson says the couple lived separately for two to three months. She says:

The separation was over by the end of January 2010.
Patterson rented a “little cottage” for her and their son in Perth while Simon stayed in a caravan park, she says.

6m ago07.32 BST

Patterson: ‘We just couldn’t communicate well’​

Mandy turns to the couple’s separations between 2009 and 2015.

He asks about tension in the relationship between Patterson and Simon. She says:

What we struggled with over the entire course of our relationship... we just couldn’t communicate well when we disagreed about something.


… We could never communicate in a way that made each of us feel heard and understood.


We would just feel hurt.
Patterson says the tension in the relationship did not extend to arrangements for their son. She says:

They were adult problems. They’re not problems for a child.

6m ago07.32 BST
The court has adjourned.

The trial will resume from 10.30am tomorrow.

 
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Nobody did. :oops:
I did, I knew she would testify.

I’ve known Erin for quite some time and she’s all about authoring her own narrative.
 
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4.23pm

From country vows to the open road: Simon and Erin Patterson’s post-wedding adventures​

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A little later, in 2006, Patterson tells the jury she moved to a little hamlet not far from Korumburra.

There, she says, Don and Gail Patterson would invite her to a meal almost monthly. Simon was living in Melbourne at the time.

In June 2007, she and Simon got married at the Korumburra Anglican church. At the wedding, they invited Ian and Heather Wilkinson, and wanted them to relax as guests.

At the time, Erin said her parents were on a train for a holiday in Russia, so Dave Wilkinson, Simon’s cousin, walked her down the aisle.

Her new in-laws, Don and Gail, hired a huge marquee and put on a buffet for the wedding guests.

Patterson said that her new husband lived in a unit in Clayton or Oakleigh, owned by Don and Gail Patterson, so she moved in briefly after the wedding.

The couple had a brief honeymoon in Olinda, but what they really wanted to do was drive around Australia. She said they sold everything and “hit the open road”.

Patterson told the jury they started by visiting Sydney, where Simon had a few friends.

Later, the pair travelled to Perth. She said they also went to South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe and Namibia before returning to Perth at the end of the year to settle there.

“Simon was pretty keen to keep travelling, and I was pretty keen to stop for a while and put down roots,” she said.


4.32pm

The ‘traumatic birth’ of Erin and Simon Patterson’s first child​

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Shortly after the couple rented a home near the beach about 40 minutes south of Perth, Patterson applied to go to university and got pregnant.

Their first child was born in January 2009 in a very traumatic birth.

Crying, Patterson described to the jury the distressing birth of her son.

“It went for a very long time, and they tried to get him out with forceps, and he wouldn’t come out,” she recalls. “He started to go into distress, and they lost his heartbeat, so they performed an emergency cesarean.”

She said doctors were happy for the baby to be discharged to be with Simon, but wanted Patterson to stay in the hospital.

“I was really upset. I said ‘I don’t want to stay here by myself’,” she told courtroom 4.

“Simon said: ‘You can just do it, let’s just leave’.”

So Patterson did – she said she discharged herself against medical advice and went home to be with her husband and baby.

4.41pm

‘I felt really out of my depth’: Struggling after childbirth, Patterson recalls the comfort of a visit from her mother-in-law​

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Erin Patterson, crying, told the jury about the birth of her first child and is now describing life in Perth afterwards.

Back then, the couple and their infant were living in a small unit in the inner city, so when Simon’s parents, Gail and Don Patterson, visited shortly after the birth, they stayed in an Airbnb.

“I remember being really relieved that Gail was there because I felt really out of my depth,” she said.

Gail Patterson helped her daughter-in-law settle the baby after a feed, and tried to interpret his cries with her. She was, Patterson recalls, supportive, gentle, and patient.

“She gave me good advice about just relaxing and enjoying it, you don’t have to stick to this timetable, this schedule, just relax and enjoy your baby,” she said.

After Don and Gail left, Erin said they continued living in the Perth flat.

“Simon was pretty keen for us to resume the trip where we left off before we stopped to have [the baby],” she said.

In April, the couple put their belongings in a storage unit and decided to continue travelling the northern part of Australia without any time constraints other than meeting relatives in Gibb River Road.

“One of Simon’s friends also joined us, and we took a couple of weeks for the Gibb River Road,” she said.

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Gail Patterson


Gail sounds like a beautiful , kind, caring person........
 
  • #353
It’s not true that she was doing a masters of midwifery. She was doing a mathematics degree when the alleged murders occured. 😳

I think they mean that she was accepted into the nursing and midwifery program. She hadn't started, and wasn't going to start it until 2024.

I did see a podcast header about her being a trainee mathematics teacher before the poisonings.

Simon also testified that .... Erin enjoyed studying and undertook a veterinary science and legal course during their relationship. And we know she was an air traffic controller before she knew Simon.


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The Mushroom Murder Trial podcasts



Patterson says at the start of 2023 she had been accepted into a bachelor of nursing and midwifery at Federation University. But she deferred this due to her daughter’s health issues, Patterson says.

She says this was in control by mid-2023 and she was planning to start the degree in early 2024.

 
  • #354
I did, I knew she would testify.

I’ve known Erin for quite some time and she’s all about authoring her own narrative.
Oh, okay.

Who's that woman who keeps ariving at the court with Simon? Is she a solicitor do you know?
 
  • #355
Oh, okay.

Who's that woman who keeps ariving at the court with Simon? Is she a solicitor do you know?
She’s Simon’s family’s PR
 
  • #356
A couple of my thoughts.

It's probably not the first time Erin had presented to the hospital, and potentially her old records listed Simon as next of kin, and his address would have been current for the times he did live there. Perhaps she was asked if her next of kin was still Simon and she said yes. I'd imagine she'd then be asked is his details were correct, but maybe not.

To be fair, who else is she going to have listed as next of kin? She apparently has no real family, at least ones she's close to. No bestie. No really great neighbour. No work friend. No associates.
So Simon it is.
What about her sister?
 
  • #357
I did, I knew she would testify.

I’ve known Erin for quite some time and she’s all about authoring her own narrative.

I can see that bit and, in doing so, she's told one lie after another. I have to wonder if she's taken the stand against the advice of the defence. I can't imagine their suggesting it to her.

The defence opened by telling the court that she's a liar and the evidence has shown that she made numerous attempts to cover up her actions from the police.

IMO, these are grist to the mill for a prosecutor.
 
  • #358
She’s Simon’s family’s PR

I remember something (way back in the threads) that he has a friend who is a public relations person, and she was helping him. I can't remember her name, and I can't find the post now. But you just jogged my memory about that. :)

imo
 
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I remember something (way back in the threads) that he has a friend who is a public relations person, and she was helping him. I can't remember her name, and I can't find the post now. But you just jogged my memory about that. :)

imo
From what I understand they didn’t know each other well prior, but after the media storm she stepped in to help protect Simon and his family from the media onslaught.
 
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