Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

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Erin begins picking mushrooms in 2020

By Joseph Dunstan

Erin's asked about her 2020 discovery of mushrooms growing in the Korumburra area.

"The first time I noticed them I remember because the dog was eating some and I picked all the mushrooms that I could see because I wanted to try to figure out what they were to see if that might be a problem for him," she says.

Erin says she discovered that "it's hard to figure out what a mushroom is, except some obvious examples".

She said some species were edible, but there was another species she was concerned about, which she says she believes is called inocybe.

Inocybe is a genus of mushrooms, covering more than 1,000 species.
Could somebody here just remind me, when she took over the local community newspaper from Simon's parents, didn't she do some articles about foraging for mushrooms?
 
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1m ago
Erin asked about mushrooms and foraging

By Joseph Dunstan

Erin puts on her glasses as she's shown messages sent to her Facebook friends where she talked about buying a food dehydrator and sharing a photo of mushrooms on the dehydrator's shelves.

"Looks like they're at the end of the cycle," Erin says of the mushrooms shown on shelves taken from the dehydrator.

"They're before going in," she says of another photo of sliced button mushrooms.

Mr Mandy asks Erin if she developed an interest in wild mushrooms.

"Yeah I did, yes," Erin says.

She says that interest began in early 2020, when going on walks with her children during the first COVID lockdown.

She says she first noticed lots of them "popping up" at the Korumburra Botanic Gardens during those walks and her interest was drawn to them.

Erin tells Mr Mandy she's always enjoyed eating mushrooms.

"They taste good and they're very healthy," she says.
Omg she's on trial for three murders and one attempted murder, by mushroom poisoning.

I don't know that I'd say, [mushrooms] taste good and they're very healthy.

Yikes.

JMO
 
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12.47pm

Trying to say sorry in text messages from abroad​

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The jury is hearing more about an exchange of text messages between Erin and Simon Patterson in December 2022.

On December 9, 2022, the court heard, Simon sent a text saying he had learnt more about the financial side of things and he believed he and Erin could sort out their differences.

On December 16, 2022, Erin Patterson sent a video of the children in New Zealand riding a toboggan on the North Island that they had first visited in 2013, when Erin was pregnant with her second child.

She told the court they would go back every time they went to New Zealand, but that visit was the first time their daughter was finally old enough to ride.

Patterson said she knew Simon would be very happy to see the footage.

The court heard Simon texted back to thank her and compliment her camera work.

Erin Patterson said that at the time, the child support issue had been sorted out, and the school issue was close to being resolved in the new year and did not require any further discussion.

“I remember sending those messages, actually,” she told the jury.

“It reminded me of the happy holidays that Simon and I had there and I felt sad about the way we had finished conflict before we left for New Zealand.”

Patterson said she was trying to say sorry to Simon and that she wished her communication was better.

“He seemed to have taken it very graciously,” she said.


12.48pm

Erin Patterson’s early weigh-ins and a lifetime of body image struggles​

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Growing up, Erin Patterson would be asked to get on the scales to make sure she wasn’t putting on too much weight.

It is a small detail about her upbringing that she has told the jury as she speaks of a lifetime battle with body image issues.

“I tried every diet under the sun,” she said.

Her eating habits had been a rollercoaster over the years. She said she went to the extreme of barely eating when she was young, before bingeing in her adult life. “Eating everything you can get your hands on before feeling sick,” the court was told.

Erin Patterson is visibly distressed as she speaks about her poor relationship with food and her private binge-eating habits.

Using a tissue to dab her watery eyes, Patterson told the court she had engaged in binge-eating since her mid-20s and would engage in the behaviour while the children were at school and Simon was at work.

“In some intense periods it could be daily,” she said. “It could vary in intensity.“

Leading up to July 2023, Erin said she would engage in binge-eating two or three times a week on average, maybe a little bit more.

 
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1m ago12.51 AEST

Erin Patterson tells court she’s never had a ‘healthy relationship’ with food​

Barrister Colin Mandy SC turns to ask Erin Patterson about her body image issues.

I’ve tried every diet under the sun.
Patterson says as a child her mother would weigh her each week to ensure they didn’t put on too much weight.

Patterson’s chin appears to tremble as she answers: “I’ve never had a good relationship with food, a healthy relationship,” she says.

Patterson’s voice breaks as she says she would eat “everything you could get your hands on” before making herself sick.

Patterson says she would not do it around other people.

It was a very private thing.
She says she had been binge eating and making herself sick since her 20s.

In Australia, the Butterfly Foundation is at 1800 33 4673. In the UK, Beat can be contacted on 0808-801-0677. In the US, help is available at nationaleatingdisorders.org or by calling ANAD’s eating disorders hotline at 800-375-7767. Other international helplines can be found at Eating Disorder Hope.
 
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1m ago
Erin tests wild mushrooms and eats them

By Joseph Dunstan

Erin says she found field and horse mushrooms in the paddock near her home and "eventually" consumed them.

"It was a process over several months in the lead-up to it, but when I got to a point where I was confident about what I thought they were ... I cut a bit off one of the mushrooms, fried it up with some butter, ate it, and then saw what happened," she says.

"They tasted good and I didn't get sick."

1m ago
Prosecution makes an objection

By Joseph Dunstan

Part-way through the questioning, the prosecution asks to raise a matter in the absence of the jury and the public hearing is paused.

We'll take a break and be back with more soon.
Omg. Her way to test mushroom toxicity was to taste them?! Eat half of one to see if it's poisonous???? Who does that???

Jmo
 
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Thinking we will get lunch now.
 
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I hope the jurors are thinking "OMG, when will this sob story end?"
Speaking of sobs, I've only ever seen her speak at that press encounter outside her car. There's a very calm actress pretending to speak Erin's testimony online, but does anyone know what she might actually sound like?
 
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Omg. Her way to test mushroom toxicity was to taste them?! Eat half of one to see if it's poisonous???? Who does that???

Jmo
Could she have been trying to build up immunity in herself? Just brainstorming here...
 
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Erin says she regularly bought dried mushrooms at Asian grocers​

Mr Mandy asks Erin how frequently she'd do shopping around Mount Waverley, Oakleigh and Clayton.

She says she'd shop there when she had the kids up at the Mount Waverley home and that she bought dried mushrooms in Asian grocers.

"I'd use them in curries or pasta dishes or soup, spaghetti," she says.

"They just taste more interesting, more flavour," she says when asked about dried vs fresh mushrooms.


* But she can't remember what Asian grocers she went to..!
When does this crap end! Stupid woman, enough is enough.

Poor Mr Wilkinson is listening to this dribble and watched the horrendous death of his wife and relatives die
 
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Me reading this entire evidence:
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2 minutes ago
HIGHLIGHT
Erin is asked about mushrooms and foraging
Mr Mandy says he now wants to ask her about mushrooms.
He says the jury has heard evidence that she discussed her love of mushroom with her Facebook friends.
“Yep that’s true,” she said.
He says there were messages about her buying a food dehydrator and of mushrooms inside the device.
She is shown photos of the mushrooms on a dehydrator shelf.
In the photos, which Erin had sent to her Facebook friends, dozens of dried mushroom slices could be seen laid out on the trays of her dehydrator.
“Looks like they’re at the end of the cycle,” she tells the court.
Mr Mandy asks if an interest in wild mushrooms.
“Yeah I did,” she said.
She said her interest began in early 2020 during Covid lockdowns when she went for walks with her children in Korumburra.
“I first noticed them popping up then,” she said.
“There were lots of them at the gardens. I remember that.”
“Had you always liked eating mushrooms?” Mr Mandy asks.
“Yeah, I had,” she replied.
“They taste good and they’re very healthy.”

1:00 PM

Exotic mushrooms 'just taste more interesting': Erin
Erin said she’d buy different varieties of mushrooms at Woolworths and farmers markets.
Mr Mandy says there had been evidence she bought mushrooms from Asian grocers, asking if she shopped in Mount Waverley, Oakleigh and Clayton.
She said she’d shop for them when the kids were staying at her Melbourne home.
“I use them in curries or pasta dishes or soup, spaghetti,” she said.
Asked what she liked about exotic mushrooms, she said: “They just taste more interesting, more flavour.”

 
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1m ago13.00 AEST

Erin Patterson says she developed an interest in wild mushrooms during Covid​

Barrister Colin Mandy SC turns to question his client about mushrooms.

Mandy shows Patterson photos she sent to her Facebook friends of mushrooms laid on a dehydrator shelf.

Patterson remarks about one photo: “looks like they’re at the end of the cycle.”

Asked if she developed an interest in wild mushrooms, she replies: “yes, I did.”

Patterson says her interest in mushrooms began during Covid in early 2020 when she would go for walks in the Korumburra Botanic Gardens with her children and noticed them.

Mandy asks Patterson why she has enjoyed eating mushrooms.

They taste good and they’re very healthy.
Asked about wild mushrooms, Patterson says they “just taste more interesting.”

It’s more flavour.

 
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If her testimony is supposed to explain why she discharged herself from hospital her family’s medical history is doing a LOT
of heavy lifting.

Broken down : her daughter had an ovarian mass as a baby which was alarming but benign and didn’t cause any problems. There was some initial scepticism but the right imaging was ordered and no harm was done. Unrelated to that, an abdo X-ray when she was 4 years showed she was “backed up” i.e. constipated,

Erin’s son had a knee injury that was initially managed conservatively with physio and then it was eventually decided he needed an operation.

It’s just so insulting to families with children with severe, ongoing needs to try to claim that these issues were so traumatising for Erin that she couldn’t cope with medical professionals as a consequence.
 
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Erin's 'very hurt'..........Simon has no 'feelings' ..............no one listens to me................every symptom I have must be terminal.................Simon doesn't understand...........

Rinse, wash, repeat.

Erin is exhausting!

😫😲🥱
I cannot for the life of me see the relevance of all this padding being provided by Erin with assistance from the leading questions provided by her council. Are they trying to bore the jury to death?
 
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2m ago
And now it's lunch

By Joseph Dunstan

Justice Beale takes the opportunity to call for lunch.

We'll be back with more coverage and more testimony from accused killer Erin Patterson at 2.15pm.
 
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If her testimony is supposed to explain why she discharged herself from hospital her family’s medical history is doing a LOT
of heavy lifting.

Broken down : her daughter had an ovarian mass as a baby which was alarming but benign and didn’t cause any problems. There was some initial scepticism but the right imaging was ordered and no harm was done. Unrelated to that, an abdo X-ray when she was 4 years showed she was “backed up” i.e. constipated,

Erin’s son had a knee injury that was initially managed conservatively with physio and then it was eventually decided he needed an operation.

It’s just so insulting to families with children with severe, ongoing needs to try to claim that these issues were so traumatising for Erin that she couldn’t cope with medical professionals as a consequence.
Exactly!! Than to want to do nursing is just wayyyy toooo much for me.
 
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I cannot for the life of me see the relevance of all this padding being provided by Erin with assistance from the leading questions provided by her council. Are they trying to bore the jury to death?
I guess Mr Mandy has to try for his client ( I imagine he is hating this as much as we are ...secretly )
 
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2m ago
And now it's lunch

By Joseph Dunstan

Justice Beale takes the opportunity to call for lunch.

We'll be back with more coverage and more testimony from accused killer Erin Patterson at 2.15pm.
I bet they ran out for lunch..!
 
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Again, to reiterate: her defence is asking these questions.
 
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