Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

[Detechtive]

I suspect that on some level before Simon declared himself separated Erin thought that her marriage was a brilliant success on her own original design, and that Simon recognized his privilege in being part of it.

This is the point that galls me. I am sure Simon isn't a perfect person, nobody is. However, from our brief experience with Simon even after the fact he knows she was the person who killed his beloved family (whether he believes it to be accidental or otherwise), he still didn't have anything bad to say about her.
He still, 7 years after separation, was a supportive "husband". He was still paying more than he should have. He was still engaging with her and her exhausting histrionic rants about the perceived slights from his saintly parents who seemed excessively supportive.

I don't know any men who would hang around 7 years after separation being the model husband like this. I think she felt forever entitled to having a husband and his family support, but not actually having a husband. It's as though she wanted all of the perks of being married, and all of the perks of being single. It's mind boggling how privileged this woman is, but still feels hard done by. IMO

 

[katydid23]

It seems like she wanted all of the benefits of being a stay at home married mother, without any of the responsibilities of that (eg: living with your husband). She wanted to do endless degrees while her children were in school full time. It's not like she couldn't have gotten a job.

I strongly suspect Simon met someone else around this time, IMO.

I suspect that he did too. And he was smart enough to keep her name and identity out of this.

I think he may have worried about what EP would have done if she find out. And he tried to protect her from that wrath. IMO

 

[Monstradamus]

Oh poor Erin Erin Erin---so worried about the family tax benefit.

Family Tax Benefit (FTB) in Victoria, Australia is a government payment designed to help families with the cost of raising children
. Services Australia (formerly Centrelink) administers these payments.


Was this government program designed for people who have inherited millions from various family estates and thus own 3 to 4 properties ?

Systems abuser.
IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

..............

Oh, and Simon asked if she was coming to the birthday. Maybe I'm peculiar, but that sounds to me like an invitation.

And his parents may very well have been leaving it (now) to Simon ...... as in "Simon can invite her, or not, it's up to him".

Not an unfamiliar path for in-laws to take, when it is appropriate to do so.

imo

 

[katydid23]

Mandy asks how Erin feels about the message now.​

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.... I feel ashamed for saying it and I wish the family didn’t have to hear that I said that.​

Well they didn't hear it, because they were deceased before this was revealed.

Mandy asks how Erin feels about the message now.​

​

...." I feel ashamed for saying it and I wish the JURY didn’t have to hear that I said that."​

[There, ^^^^ I fixed it for ya, EP]

 

[JBowie]

However, from our brief experience with Simon even after the fact he knows she was the person who killed his beloved family (whether he believes it to be accidental or otherwise), he still didn't have anything bad to say about her.

Not to mention (1) that she was initially charged with 3 counts of attempting to murder him, and (2) his near death experience after one of her meals (16 days in an induced coma).

Frankly, I can't work him out.

“I collapsed at home, then was in an induced coma for 16 days through which I had three emergency operations mainly on my small intestine, plus an additional planned operation,” he wrote.

“My family were asked to come and say goodbye to me twice, as I was not expected to live.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/mushroom-chefs-exhusband-reaches-out-to-locals-after-nearly-dying-from-mystery-illness-last-year/news-story/7c5bea17efbb5046040f9dac4251888d

 

[Monstradamus]

ErinErinErin… your 4 year old is so constipated as to be hospitalized and x-rayed and somehow makes you a very very good and concerned parent and you both suffered trauma? Please tell us the doctor recommended remedy? More fibre?

This is just another parenting experience, Erin, you are just like the rest of us. (Even ovarian mass … scary, but she’s fine)

It's like watching an episode of "This Is Your Life"

 

[JBowie]

It's like watching an episode of "This Is Your Life"

More like "Daze of Our Lives".

 

[Detechtive]

I suspect that he did too. And he was smart enough to keep her name and identity out of this.

I think he may have worried about what EP would have done if she find out. And he tried to protect her from that wrath. IMO

I wouldn't blame him. 7 years separated from this woman who was loving her push-pull games with him, and he finally met someone nice and said "okay, if you want to keep threatening me, let's go - i am done with your BS".
I really hope he has found someone lovely. I feel for him having endured this crazy relationship of manipulation and coercion for so long.

 

[MrJ]

Mandy asks how Erin feels about the message now.​

​

...." I feel ashamed for saying it and I wish the JURY didn’t have to hear that I said that."​

[There, ^^^^ I fixed it for ya, EP]

she's not sorry she sent them. she's sorry she got arrested and all her dirty laundry about her foundering relationship with her in-laws are public. JMO

 

[Kemug]

Was there ever a day when Erin was not "hurt"?

 

[katydid23]

The poor teenage son to have all this aired in court and known to the public, as if he hadn’t suffered enough trauma…

It's very selfish of her to have this brought to the public for NO apparent reason, other than it helps her blame Simon and makes her a victim once again. And it totally humiliates her son, who she claims to care so much about. as a mother, this makes me angry because I know that she knows, how devastating this could feel for her teenaged son. .

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I suspect that he did too. And he was smart enough to keep her name and identity out of this.

I think he may have worried about what EP would have done if she find out. And he tried to protect her from that wrath. IMO

If he had, his new friend may have also received an invitation to lunch...

 

[Kemug]

"Sorry" is the hardest word.

 

[Megnut]

She loved wild mushrooms because they're just so flavorful? Yet.... she was dehydrating them and hiding them in her children's desserts? So not flavorful? Fun chocolate-y mushrooms?

So pungent she couldn't hide them in a carbonara....

But flavorful.

Ok.

 

[mamamama9873]

she's been living life on easy mode and doesn't even realise her privilege. Every one of her demons comes from inside herself, IMO. To inherit enough money to be able to buy homes outright with no mortgage? to have two healthy children (those things she details are so minor)? to have a husband who even after you separate is so patient and gracious? such a great family he has (had) too. And she does nothing but whine about it all. jmo. Its infuriating

100% agree, she could easily have had a wonderful life yet made such poor choices.

 

[katydid23]

3 minutes ago
HIGHLIGHT
Erin 'played up the emotion to get support' from Facebook friends
Mr Mandy takes Erin to another Facebook message in which she says the family are a “lost cause”:
“I’m sick of this . I want nothing to do with them. I thought his parents would want him to do the right thing, but it seems their concern about not wanting to feel uncomfortable and not wanting to get involved in their son’s personal matters are overriding that. So f—k em,” she said in the message.
Erin admits she wrote the message.
“I needed to vent. I needed to get my frustration off my chest. And the choice was either go into the paddock and tell the sheep or vent to these women,” she said.
“But I regret the language that I used, but I knew that they would rally around me and I probably, you know, played up the emotion of that a bit to get that support.”
Asked if she meant those words, Erin says “no”.
She said she was frustrated with Simon but the dispute wasn’t entirely his fault and she also played a part.
“I think at the time I thought I was right and he was wrong but I reflected on it a lot in New Zealand and I realised that it was wrong to try and involve Don and Gail and I should’ve approached it differently with Simon,” she tells the court.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/the-mushroom-cook/erin-patterson-trial-live-mushroom-cook-returns-to-the-witness-box/live-coverage/d38ddeff9157a7fe0ede32b695044a4f#/entry/32013100

OK, she is being inconsistent, saying mixed messages to jurors.

Up there ^^^she says:
"and I realised that it was wrong to try and involve Don and Gail and I should’ve approached it differently with Simon,” she tells the court.

But just a few minutes ago, when asked WHY she invited the 4 in-laws to lunch, she said she hoped they could mediate and help get her and Simon back on track.


[BUT SHE AVOIDED ANY MENTION OF CANCER and/or wanting to get help with telling her kids about the diasgnosis, etc]

 

[Monstradamus]

OK, she is being inconsistent, saying mixed messages to jurors.

Up there ^^^she says:
"and I realised that it was wrong to try and involve Don and Gail and I should’ve approached it differently with Simon,” she tells the court.

But just a few minutes ago, when asked WHY she invited the 4 in-laws to lunch, she said she hoped they could mediate and help get her and Simon back on track.


[BUT SHE AVOIDED ANY MENTION OF CANCER and/or wanting to get help with telling her kids about the diasgnosis, etc]

Simon is an adult, is he not?
I don't understand why she would involve his parents. If they had to make a choice, they would support their son. Controlling much?
IMO

 

[Monstradamus]

3 minutes ago
HIGHLIGHT
Erin 'played up the emotion to get support' from Facebook friends
Mr Mandy takes Erin to another Facebook message in which she says the family are a “lost cause”:
“I’m sick of this . I want nothing to do with them. I thought his parents would want him to do the right thing, but it seems their concern about not wanting to feel uncomfortable and not wanting to get involved in their son’s personal matters are overriding that. So f—k em,” she said in the message.
Erin admits she wrote the message.
“I needed to vent. I needed to get my frustration off my chest. And the choice was either go into the paddock and tell the sheep or vent to these women,” she said.
“But I regret the language that I used, but I knew that they would rally around me and I probably, you know, played up the emotion of that a bit to get that support.”
Asked if she meant those words, Erin says “no”.
She said she was frustrated with Simon but the dispute wasn’t entirely his fault and she also played a part.
“I think at the time I thought I was right and he was wrong but I reflected on it a lot in New Zealand and I realised that it was wrong to try and involve Don and Gail and I should’ve approached it differently with Simon,” she tells the court.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/the-mushroom-cook/erin-patterson-trial-live-mushroom-cook-returns-to-the-witness-box/live-coverage/d38ddeff9157a7fe0ede32b695044a4f#/entry/32013100

Talks to her Sheeple instead of her sheep. Bad move, Erin.

 

[JLZ]

Simon is an adult, is he not?
I don't understand why she would involve his parents. If they had to make a choice, they would support their son. Controlling much?
IMO

And notice that she's triangulating in both directions. Wanting the parents to side with her against Simon. And complaining to Simon about his parents, as we saw with the birthday invitation, expecting him to support her position of grievance.