Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

[Scooby-Doo]

Interesting...
1m ago
Erin says she had to stop during trip

By Joseph Dunstan

Erin says both of the children were in the car on the way to the flying lesson.

She says about 30 minutes in, she felt she needed to use the toilet, so they pulled over at a stretch where there was some bushland.

"I went off into the bush and went to the toilet ... I had diarrhoea," she says.

"I cleaned myself up a bit with tissues and put them in a dog poo bag ... and we hit the road again."

During a stop at the BP Caldermeade, Ms Patterson says she put the dog poo bag containing tissues she'd used while toileting in the bin.

She says she bought food for her children, but tells the court she bought nothing for herself.

 

[ch_13]

Vomiting her meal up would not protect her from severe illness. Experts say that the toxins enter the bloodstream very quickly so vomiting does not help much.

Maybe they need to do some scientific studies on the cake Erin ate. Perhaps it has some heretofore unknown properties that make it a death cap antidote.

 

[browneyes]

IMHO, Erin, Erin, Erin and the truth are strangers. This is a very sloppy examination, IMO. Way too many extraneous details. The truth never needs to be clouded.

 

[MrJ]

Key Event
1m ago
Erin arrives at Leongatha Hospital

By Joseph Dunstan

She says when she got to Leongatha Hospital, she used the toilet before waiting in the emergency department.

Erin says she then recalls a doctor apologising for the wait before telling her there were two "critically ill" people in there.

She says she told him "that's fine, I've just got gastro, it's not urgent".

After she gave him her name, she says he said "we've been expecting you" and asked her to come through.

"I followed him in and I remember feeling a little bit unsettled, because when I said my name, his reaction communicated that he knew who I was … which threw me quite a bit," she says.

 

[browneyes]

Rbbm

My nausea is ratcheting up. Thanks, Erin.

I just threw away my fig newton cookie.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

They need a toilet for Erin in the witness box

Just don't show her any donuts, hot dogs, chilli chicken, dim sims and coffee

 

[katydid23]

It does introduce reasonable doubt, absolutely. However, there are still some things that cannot be explained away easily: first, the fact that she used a different plate for her portion than the one she used for her guests and secondly, the fact that she somehow managed not to get a dose of the poisonous mushrooms. Death cap mushrooms are extremely toxic: even a very small amount will kill you. How does a mixture of mushrooms somehow avoid the poisonous ones?

And aside from all of the above, WHY did she pick mushrooms that she knew were right next to some Oak trees? If she had 'researched' death caps enough to feel comfortable serving her kids wild mushrooms, how would she not know that dearth caps grown symbiotically with Oaks?

That doesn't seem like a tragic accident to me---seems more like criminal negligence to serve people foraged mushrooms that were clearly growing alongside some large oak trees---which any forager knows is dangerous.

Google Search

Oak trees are a primary host for death caps, particularly in areas where the mushroom has been introduced from Europe, like the United States and British Columbia. While not exclusively linked to oaks, they frequently grow near oak trees and other hardwoods.

 

[MrJ]

How do you think your guests felt, Erin?

2m ago
Erin informed of possible death cap poisoning

By Joseph Dunstan

She says the doctor asked her if she was the "cook" and where the ingredients in the beef Wellington lunch had come from.

When he told her about his concern of death cap mushrooms in the meal, Erin says she was "shocked but confused as well".

"I was just expecting to come in for saline for gastro," she says.

She says she "didn't see how death cap mushrooms could be in the meal" and was "puzzled" because she only really knew about her gastro.

Erin says she was told she'd need a specific medicine and to be sent to Melbourne in an ambulance.

"I felt really anxious and stressed and confused, I felt really overwhelmed," she says.

 

[MrJ]

Hmmmm...

Just now
Erin plans to leave hospital

By Joseph Dunstan

Erin Patterson says she had a bag with her at Leongatha Hospital, with a water bottle and some kind of warm jumper or jacket.

She says she tried to explain to the nurse why she couldn't go to Melbourne straight away and she was just planning to go in for a few hours and that she had kids at school.

"I couldn't move my brain out of that, being stuck in what I thought the day was going to look like," she says.

"It was kind of like trying to turn a really, really big ship."

Among the things on her mind were organising her daughter's ballet event that night and securing the dog and lambs.

Erin says the discussion with hospital staff then moved into how far away she lived and how quickly she could be back at hospital after attending to those matters.

At this point, the judge suggests a break, and the court adjourns for lunch.

 

[browneyes]

How do you think your guests felt, Erin?

2m ago
Erin informed of possible death cap poisoning

By Joseph Dunstan

She says the doctor asked her if she was the "cook" and where the ingredients in the beef Wellington lunch had come from.

When he told her about his concern of death cap mushrooms in the meal, Erin says she was "shocked but confused as well".

"I was just expecting to come in for saline for gastro," she says.

She says she "didn't see how death cap mushrooms could be in the meal" and was "puzzled" because she only really knew about her gastro.

Erin says she was told she'd need a specific medicine and to be sent to Melbourne in an ambulance.

"I felt really anxious and stressed and confused, I felt really overwhelmed," she says.

OMG…ERIN,ERIN,ERIN.

 

[LinasK]

Gross....

Just now
Flight lessons cancelled and Pattersons return home

By Joseph Dunstan

On the way back, after the flying lesson was cancelled, they stopped at the Koo Wee Rup donut van.

Erin says her children took her ATM card and bought some things, including a coffee for her.

She says she didn't ask for a coffee specifically, and it would have been "habit" for her son to get something for her.

Ms Patterson says as soon as they arrived home, she ran "pretty quickly" for the toilet.

"The diarrhoea was continuing but my nausea wasn't such a huge issue anymore," she says.

Oh please! If you really have diarrhea/vomiting- Ginger Tea yes, Coffee? Absolutely NOT. Coffee is a diuretic. You don't purchase it out of habit. What a lame excuse.

 

[Detechtive]

Curious why you wouldn't spend more than 9 seconds in the bathroom washing your hands and 'cleaning yourself up' better if you allegedly went to the toilet on the side of the road.

 

[southgoldengirl]

When he told her about his concern of death cap mushrooms in the meal, Erin says she was "shocked but confused as well".

"I was just expecting to come in for saline for gastro," she says.

Translation: oh no they're on to me

 

[Deleted member 363451]

3m ago03.46 BST
Mandy then turns to what occurred after the lunch guests left.

Patterson says her son helped her tidy up. She said the leftovers included the remainder of her beef wellington and the entire sixth one.

Patterson says “quite a lot” of the cake Gail had brought was leftover. She says about two-thirds of the cake remained after lunch.

She says afterwards she began eating the cake and continued to eat slice after slice.

Mandy asks how many pieces of cake she ate.

“All of it,” she says.

Asked what happened afterwards, Patterson says she “felt sick”.

“I felt over-full,” she says.

“So I went to the toilet and brought it back up again.”

She says she began to have loose stools about 5.30pm that evening.

On the 23rd July 2023 Erin Patterson purchase 1kg of mushrooms from Woolworths.
On the 27th July she purchased 750kg mushrooms from Woolworths.

The Beef Wellington recipe she used called for 1kg mushrooms...

See receipts attached.

Mushroom trial week five: SIM cards, cancer claims and receipts

Police testimony has revealed new claims about Erin Patterson's actions in the lead-up to the fatal mushroom lunch.

www.1news.co.nz

 

[Detechtive]

How do you think your guests felt, Erin?

2m ago
Erin informed of possible death cap poisoning

By Joseph Dunstan

She says the doctor asked her if she was the "cook" and where the ingredients in the beef Wellington lunch had come from.

When he told her about his concern of death cap mushrooms in the meal, Erin says she was "shocked but confused as well".

"I was just expecting to come in for saline for gastro," she says.

She says she "didn't see how death cap mushrooms could be in the meal" and was "puzzled" because she only really knew about her gastro

Erin says she was told she'd need a specific medicine and to be sent to Melbourne in an ambulance.

"I felt really anxious and stressed and confused, I felt really overwhelmed," she says.

BBM. This is another lie. She spoke to Simon that morning who had told her the others were in hospital.

 

[ch_13]

Omg poor Simon.

1m ago
Erin calls Simon Patterson

By Joseph Dunstan

About 6am on the Monday after the lunch, Erin Patterson says she got up and started to get her children ready for school.

She says the bus to school picked them up about 7:20am, before she called her estranged husband Simon.

She says at this point, she believed she might need some fluids in hospital to assist with the diarrhoea she was experiencing.

"Every time I drank water it went straight through me, couldn't seem to retain it, so I thought … I should go in, for a little bit," she says.

She says she called Simon because she didn't want to go by herself to hospital.

She says Simon said he was tired and still in bed and she should drive herself — which she then did.

So, she hates and fears hospitals. But she decided to go to one of her own volition just because she felt dehydrated? I mean that's one of the easiest things to self-medicate. Just drink liquids or take an OTC medication.

Seems contradictory.

 

[MsMarple]

3m ago13.02 AEST
Patterson says on Sunday morning Simon told her his parents also had diarrhea and were at Korumburra Hospital.


She recalls driving her son to his flying lesson in Tyabb. Her daughter was also in the car.

Patterson says en route she pulled to the side of the road and went to the toilet in a bush,

She says she had diarrhoea.

Mandy asks about evidence heard earlier in the trial, that Patterson and her children stopped at a service station.

“The internal footage shows you going into the bathroom,” Mandy says.

Patterson says she put the soiled tissues in the bin in the toilet. She then bought food items for her children.

I bought either a wrap or sandwich for [my son], a sandwich for [my daughter] and some sour straps.

Patterson says she did not buy anything for herself and did not eat any of the purchased food.

Her son’s flying lesson was cancelled due to poor weather and they turned back, the court hears.

On the way back, Patterson says her son bought a coffee for her at a donut van. She says she asked her son to get her a drink and he likely bought her a coffee as “habit”.

When they returned home, Patterson ran for the toilet, the court hears.

 

[browneyes]

Curious why you wouldn't spend more than 9 seconds in the bathroom washing your hands and 'cleaning yourself up' better if you allegedly went to the toilet on the side of the road.

I spend longer than that soaping up my hands…especially in public restrooms. Gross!
Happy lunch jurors.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

dbm

 

[LinasK]

How do you think your guests felt, Erin?

2m ago
Erin informed of possible death cap poisoning

By Joseph Dunstan

She says the doctor asked her if she was the "cook" and where the ingredients in the beef Wellington lunch had come from.

When he told her about his concern of death cap mushrooms in the meal, Erin says she was "shocked but confused as well".

"I was just expecting to come in for saline for gastro," she says.

She says she "didn't see how death cap mushrooms could be in the meal" and was "puzzled" because she only really knew about her gastro.

Erin says she was told she'd need a specific medicine and to be sent to Melbourne in an ambulance.

"I felt really anxious and stressed and confused, I felt really overwhelmed," she says.

Because it's all about her and she didn't expect to be linked with the Patterson's.