I think she wanted him to keep paying the private school fees. When he refused, she pulled them out and enrolled them in public school. Private fees can be in the thousands, public school has maybe $500ish of costs a year.
Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #12 *Arrest*
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“No, that’s not true,” Patterson says.
Rogers shows the court a message Simon sent on 28 July 2023 - the day prior to the lunch. Simon says he feels “too uncomfortable” to attend the lunch but is happy to discuss Patterson’s “health” and the “implications” of it.
Rogers says Simon’s reference to Patterson’s health is a direct reference to her telling him on 16 July 2023 that she had important medical news.
“I disagree,” Patterson replies.
In Patterson’s reply, she said Simon declining the lunch invite was disappointing. She said she may not be able to host a lunch like this “for a long time”.
Rogers says Patterson. wrote those words to make it seem like the “medical issue was the reason”. She says Patterson was “purporting” to refer to the medical issues she told him about on 16 July 2023.
Patterson says she did tell Simon on 16 July 2023 that she wanted to discuss medical things at the lunch.
Patterson says in her earlier evidence, she was rejecting that the medical issue was “important” and that she needed advice on how to break it to the children.
“I wasn’t after advice,” she says.
Patterson says she did want to discuss medical advice but it was not the “purpose” of the lunch. She says:
9m ago11.27 AEST
Rogers says Simon gave evidence that on 16 July 2023 – two weeks prior to the lunch – Patterson approached him after a church service and said she had some important medical news she wanted advice on and how to break it to the children.
Patterson says she did approach Simon after the service but rejects saying these words.
Rogers says Simon recalled Patterson saying she was inviting him to lunch as well as his parents, Don and Gail, and his aunt and uncle, Heather and Ian.
Patterson agrees she invited Simon to lunch.
Patterson rejects that she told Simon she did not want their children to attend the lunch.
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22m ago11.14 AEST
Patterson rejects evidence of Facebook friend
Rogers says Patterson’s Facebook friend Christine Hunt gave evidence Patterson painted Simon as a father who was “coercive”. Patterson rejects that she told Hunt this.
Rogers says Hunt’s evidence was also that Simon disagreed with her a lot, particularly in response to medical issues of their children. Patterson rejects this.
Rogers says child protection worker, Katrina Cripps, gave evidence that Patterson told her Simon had been “mean” to her “but never nasty”.
“I think I did say that,” Patterson says.
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24m ago02.12 BST
Patterson ‘ashamed’ of ‘
Rogers shows the court another Facebook message in a group chat on 6 December 2022 with her online friends. In the message, Patterson said her in-laws would not step in to help resolve her dispute with Simon. She then wrote “so 
em” in relation to Don and Gail.
Patterson says:
31m ago11.05 AEST
Patterson and Simon’s interactions were ‘strained’, court hears
Rogers says Patterson’s son gave evidence that while she and Simon were married the interactions prior to the lunch were “very negative”.
Asked if she agrees with the observation, Patterson says the pair’s interactions were “strained”.
Roger shows a Facebook message Patterson sent to her Facebook friends on 6 December 2022. In the message she wrote: “This family I swear to god.”
“This expressed your true feelings about Don and Gail,” Rogers says.
“No,” Patterson says.
Patterson also rejects Rogers’ suggestion that a message on the same day where she said Don and Gail were a “lost cause” reflected her true feelings towards them.
Patterson denies 'purpose' of lunch was to discuss medical advice
Rogers says Patterson did not want her children to be present at the lunch so they would not eat the meal she was planning to serve her lunch guests.“No, that’s not true,” Patterson says.
Rogers shows the court a message Simon sent on 28 July 2023 - the day prior to the lunch. Simon says he feels “too uncomfortable” to attend the lunch but is happy to discuss Patterson’s “health” and the “implications” of it.
Rogers says Simon’s reference to Patterson’s health is a direct reference to her telling him on 16 July 2023 that she had important medical news.
“I disagree,” Patterson replies.
In Patterson’s reply, she said Simon declining the lunch invite was disappointing. She said she may not be able to host a lunch like this “for a long time”.
Rogers says Patterson. wrote those words to make it seem like the “medical issue was the reason”. She says Patterson was “purporting” to refer to the medical issues she told him about on 16 July 2023.
Patterson says she did tell Simon on 16 July 2023 that she wanted to discuss medical things at the lunch.
Patterson says in her earlier evidence, she was rejecting that the medical issue was “important” and that she needed advice on how to break it to the children.
“I wasn’t after advice,” she says.
Patterson says she did want to discuss medical advice but it was not the “purpose” of the lunch. She says:
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9m ago11.27 AEST
Rogers says Simon gave evidence that on 16 July 2023 – two weeks prior to the lunch – Patterson approached him after a church service and said she had some important medical news she wanted advice on and how to break it to the children.
Patterson says she did approach Simon after the service but rejects saying these words.
Rogers says Simon recalled Patterson saying she was inviting him to lunch as well as his parents, Don and Gail, and his aunt and uncle, Heather and Ian.
Patterson agrees she invited Simon to lunch.
Patterson rejects that she told Simon she did not want their children to attend the lunch.
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22m ago11.14 AEST
Patterson rejects evidence of Facebook friend
Rogers says Patterson’s Facebook friend Christine Hunt gave evidence Patterson painted Simon as a father who was “coercive”. Patterson rejects that she told Hunt this.
Rogers says Hunt’s evidence was also that Simon disagreed with her a lot, particularly in response to medical issues of their children. Patterson rejects this.
Rogers says child protection worker, Katrina Cripps, gave evidence that Patterson told her Simon had been “mean” to her “but never nasty”.
“I think I did say that,” Patterson says.
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24m ago02.12 BST
Patterson ‘ashamed’ of ‘ em’ text message
Rogers shows the court another Facebook message in a group chat on 6 December 2022 with her online friends. In the message, Patterson said her in-laws would not step in to help resolve her dispute with Simon. She then wrote “so em” in relation to Don and Gail.Patterson says:
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31m ago11.05 AEST
Patterson and Simon’s interactions were ‘strained’, court hears
Rogers says Patterson’s son gave evidence that while she and Simon were married the interactions prior to the lunch were “very negative”.
Asked if she agrees with the observation, Patterson says the pair’s interactions were “strained”.
Roger shows a Facebook message Patterson sent to her Facebook friends on 6 December 2022. In the message she wrote: “This family I swear to
god.”“This expressed your true feelings about Don and Gail,” Rogers says.
“No,” Patterson says.
Patterson also rejects Rogers’ suggestion that a message on the same day where she said Don and Gail were a “lost cause” reflected her true feelings towards them.
Erin Patterson mushroom trial: Accused triple murderer faces Supreme Court hearing in Morwell
The mother-of-two is on the stand at her murder trial, accused of killing her three in-laws with poisonous death cap mushrooms.
7news.com.au
Patterson grilled over lunch cancellation text to Simon
Rogers has questioned Patterson about the following message she sent him when he pulled out of the lunch:“That’s really disappointing. I’ve spent many hours this week preparing lunch for tomorrow which has been exhausting in light of the issues I’m facing and spent a small fortune on beef eye fillet to make beef Wellingtons because I wanted it to be a special meal as I may not be able to host a lunch like this again for some time.”
“It’s important to me that you’re all there tomorrow and that I can have the conversations that I need to have. I hope you’ll change your mind. Your parents and Heather and Ian are coming at 12.30. I hope to see you there.”
Rogers put it to Patterson that she included the line “may not be able to host a lunch like this again for some time” to suggest she was sick and persuade Simon to come.
Patterson said that was not the case.
Rogers: “That is also a reference to medical issues.”
Patterson: “Yes, I think I would agree with that.”
Rogers: “I suggest that on 16 July you lied to Simon, saying you had medical issues to discuss.”
Patterson: “No, that wasn’t a lie.”
Rogers noted Patterson also wrote: “It is important you are all there tomorrow and I can have the conversations I can all have.”
Rogers: “Is that a reference to the medical issues?”
Patterson: “Yes”
Rogers: “But you didn’t have any medical issues?”
Patterson: “Yes I did.. I had gastric bypass surgery.”
Asked if she had the surgery book, Patterson said she had a pre-surgery appointment booked with a clinic in Melbourne.
Rogers suggested to Patterson that she invited Simon to the lunch with the intention of giving him a beef wellington, which she threw in the bin when he didn’t come.
Patterson said she did not invite him over to poison him intentionally, but said she had thrown out the leftovers.
HBM.
In my opinion this is a "gotcha" moment. How could she feed the kids that food if she admits throwing it out?
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All this word salad reminds me of Letecia S, convicted murderer of little Gannon.
How can anyone swallow this malarkey?
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Erin backflips, admits she did invite Simon to tell him medical news
Dr Rogers suggests Erin used the medical issue to encourage Simon to attend.“Incorrect,” she replies.
She puts to Erin it was also used so there would be an excuse for why her children were not present.
“Because you wanted to ensure that there was no way they could eat the meal you were planning to service to your lunch guests,” Dr Rogers says.
“No that’s not true,” Erin replies.
Dr Rogers then takes Erin to a message exchange with Simon after he pulled out of the lunch the night before, also suggesting they talk about her health issues another time.
“That’s really disappointing. I’ve spent many hours this week preparing lunch for tomorrow which has been exhausting in light of the issues I’m facing and spent a small fortune on beef eye fillet to make beef wellingtons because I wanted it to be a special meal, as I may not be able to host a lunch like this again for some time. It’s important to me that you’re all there tomorrow and that I can have the conversations that I need to have. I hope you’ll change your mind. Your parents and Heather and Ian are coming at 12.30. I hope to see you there,” Erin responded.
After a series of questions, Erin admits she did invite Simon after telling him of medical issues on July 16.
But denies she was seeking advice or that it was the purpose of the lunch.
Yes for sure!Erin Patterson mushroom trial: Accused triple murderer faces Supreme Court hearing in Morwell
The mother-of-two is on the stand at her murder trial, accused of killing her three in-laws with poisonous death cap mushrooms.
Patterson grilled over lunch cancellation text to Simon
Rogers has questioned Patterson about the following message she sent him when he pulled out of the lunch:
“That’s really disappointing. I’ve spent many hours this week preparing lunch for tomorrow which has been exhausting in light of the issues I’m facing and spent a small fortune on beef eye fillet to make beef Wellingtons because I wanted it to be a special meal as I may not be able to host a lunch like this again for some time.”
“It’s important to me that you’re all there tomorrow and that I can have the conversations that I need to have. I hope you’ll change your mind. Your parents and Heather and Ian are coming at 12.30. I hope to see you there.”
Rogers put it to Patterson that she included the line “may not be able to host a lunch like this again for some time” to suggest she was sick and persuade Simon to come.
Patterson said that was not the case.
Rogers: “That is also a reference to medical issues.”
Patterson: “Yes, I think I would agree with that.”
Rogers: “I suggest that on 16 July you lied to Simon, saying you had medical issues to discuss.”
Patterson: “No, that wasn’t a lie.”
Rogers noted Patterson also wrote: “It is important you are all there tomorrow and I can have the conversations I can all have.”
Rogers: “Is that a reference to the medical issues?”
Patterson: “Yes”
Rogers: “But you didn’t have any medical issues?”
Patterson: “Yes I did.. I had gastric bypass surgery.”
Asked if she had the surgery book, Patterson said she had a pre-surgery appointment booked with a clinic in Melbourne.
Rogers suggested to Patterson that she invited Simon to the lunch with the intention of giving him a beef wellington, which she threw in the bin when he didn’t come.
Patterson said she did not invite him over to poison him intentionally, but said she had thrown out the leftovers.
HBM.
In my opinion this is a "gotcha" moment. How could she feed the kids that food if she admits throwing it out?
Hoping they will pull her up on that pre surgery appointment that Patterson supposedly had booked and get the clinic in Melbourne to verify this.
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Ms Patterson agrees she had hoped her messages would lead Simon to attend the meal.
Dr Rogers then suggests that Erin had made an extra poisoned beef Wellington for Simon.
Erin says this is wrong.
Dr Rogers suggests that when he had not attended, Erin had thrown the extra Wellington in the bin.
Erin says she did throw mushroom and pastry in the bin, but denied she had attempted to poison her estranged husband.
Dr Rogers then suggests that Erin had made an extra poisoned beef Wellington for Simon.
Erin says this is wrong.
Dr Rogers suggests that when he had not attended, Erin had thrown the extra Wellington in the bin.
Erin says she did throw mushroom and pastry in the bin, but denied she had attempted to poison her estranged husband.
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I think she was still attached to him in some ways. She did not like living with him, but she liked having a partner and a father for the kids. But from a distance.
When her fence was hit by a tree she called him and expected him to immediately come do the grunt work for her. She liked to include him in some of her vacations with the kids.
She expected to be personally invited to all of his family's functions. That is not normal in most 7 year separations, imo. She was outraged and snippy when overlooked and uninvited by his family.
What if he wanted to date someone and move on?
IMO there's no way she'd be happy with him moving on with someone else
It's correct. As reported from ABC
Doctor gave blunt warning to Erin Patterson over mushroom poisoning risk, court hears
A doctor's triple-0 call has been played in Erin Patterson's murder trial, with the GP heard asking police to find the Leongatha mother and return her to hospital.
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He said Ms Patterson gave him a one-word response: "Woolworths."
The doctor informed Ms Patterson that she would be given urgent medical treatment, but within minutes, she decided to leave the building.
Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened
Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.
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It's that thing where she wants a husband but doesn't want a husband. There is no way she would have allowed another woman in her kids lives.
I honestly suspect that Simon was either seeing someone else, or wanting to which is the reason she did this in the first place. IMO
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Prosecution asks why Erin did not tell authorities about possible death cap poisoning
By Joseph Dunstan
Dr Rogers then goes to a conversation that took place between Erin and Simon in a hospital on the Tuesday after the lunch.
Erin has previously said Simon confronted her and asked her if she'd used the dehydrator to poison his parents. Simon denies he said that.
In evidence earlier this week, Erin said that after the conversation, "it got me thinking about all the times that I'd used it [the dehydrator]".
"And how I had dried foraged mushrooms in it weeks earlier. And I was starting to think, what if they'd gone in the container with the Chinese mushrooms," Erin said.
Dr Rogers recounts Erin then told the court she became "scared" and started to worry that authorities would think it was "intentional".
"You agree that you told police in your record of interview that you loved Don and Gail?" Dr Rogers asks.
"Correct," Erin says.
"Surely if you loved them .. You would have immediately notified the medical authorities that there was a possibility that the foraged mushrooms" had ended up in the meal, Dr Rogers says.
"Well I didn't," Erin says. "I had been told that ... people were getting treatment for possible death cap mushroom poisoning. So that was already happening."
Dr Rogers notes that this was days before anyone had died, but Erin didn't tell "a single person" that foraged mushrooms may be in the meal.
"Correct," Erin says.
Instead, on the Wednesday, Erin got up, drove the kids to school then came home.
"Then you got rid of the dehydrator," Dr Rogers says.
Erin confirms that's what happened.
2m ago
Prosecution asks why Erin did not tell authorities about possible death cap poisoning
By Joseph Dunstan
Dr Rogers then goes to a conversation that took place between Erin and Simon in a hospital on the Tuesday after the lunch.
Erin has previously said Simon confronted her and asked her if she'd used the dehydrator to poison his parents. Simon denies he said that.
In evidence earlier this week, Erin said that after the conversation, "it got me thinking about all the times that I'd used it [the dehydrator]".
"And how I had dried foraged mushrooms in it weeks earlier. And I was starting to think, what if they'd gone in the container with the Chinese mushrooms," Erin said.
Dr Rogers recounts Erin then told the court she became "scared" and started to worry that authorities would think it was "intentional".
"You agree that you told police in your record of interview that you loved Don and Gail?" Dr Rogers asks.
"Correct," Erin says.
"Surely if you loved them .. You would have immediately notified the medical authorities that there was a possibility that the foraged mushrooms" had ended up in the meal, Dr Rogers says.
"Well I didn't," Erin says. "I had been told that ... people were getting treatment for possible death cap mushroom poisoning. So that was already happening."
Dr Rogers notes that this was days before anyone had died, but Erin didn't tell "a single person" that foraged mushrooms may be in the meal.
"Correct," Erin says.
Instead, on the Wednesday, Erin got up, drove the kids to school then came home.
"Then you got rid of the dehydrator," Dr Rogers says.
Erin confirms that's what happened.
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Court takes a break
By Judd Boaz
Dr Rogers indicates she will be moving on to a new topic.
Justice Beale says that's a good time for a break.
We'll be back with more coverage soon.
Court takes a break
By Judd Boaz
Dr Rogers indicates she will be moving on to a new topic.
Justice Beale says that's a good time for a break.
We'll be back with more coverage soon.
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Patterson says medical issues to be discussed at the lunch related to gastric bypass surgery
Regarding the lunch invitation, Patterson says:
Rogers takes Patterson back to the message she sent Simon the day before the lunch, saying that she would not be able to host a “lunch like this again for some time”.
Patterson agrees this phrase was a reference to medical issues.
Rogers says Patterson lied to Simon on 16 July 2023 when she said she had some medical issues to discuss.
“No, that wasn’t a lie,” Patterson says.
Patterson says she was planning to have gastric bypass surgery for weight loss.
Patterson says she had a pre-surgery appointment booked for this at the Enrich clinic in Melbourne. She says she does not remember the date of this appointment.
Rogers says she will return to this topic later.
Patterson says medical issues to be discussed at the lunch related to gastric bypass surgery
Regarding the lunch invitation, Patterson says:
Patterson says she did not tell Simon she needed advice on how to break it to the children.
Rogers takes Patterson back to the message she sent Simon the day before the lunch, saying that she would not be able to host a “lunch like this again for some time”.
Patterson agrees this phrase was a reference to medical issues.
Rogers says Patterson lied to Simon on 16 July 2023 when she said she had some medical issues to discuss.
“No, that wasn’t a lie,” Patterson says.
Patterson says she was planning to have gastric bypass surgery for weight loss.
Patterson says she had a pre-surgery appointment booked for this at the Enrich clinic in Melbourne. She says she does not remember the date of this appointment.
Rogers says she will return to this topic later.
The journalists writing these play-by-plays are doing as good a job as can be expected, but I think we really miss out on the courtroom atmosphere.
Like this line about "protracted questioning". I can only imagine what it's like sitting there watching Erin refuse to admit the obvious until she's finally boxed into a corner. It seems to be happening over and over again on every question. It must be excruciating.
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Dr Rogers then goes to a conversation that took place between Erin and Simon in a hospital on the Tuesday after the lunch.
Erin has previously said Simon confronted her and asked her if she'd used the dehydrator to poison his parents. Simon denies he said that.
In evidence earlier this week, Erin said that after the conversation, "it got me thinking about all the times that I'd used it [the dehydrator]".
"And how I had dried foraged mushrooms in it weeks earlier. And I was starting to think, what if they'd gone in the container with the Chinese mushrooms," Erin said.
Dr Rogers recounts Erin then told the court she became "scared" and started to worry that authorities would think it was "intentional".
"Correct," Erin says.
Instead, on the Wednesday, Erin got up, drove the kids to school then came home.
"Then you got rid of the dehydrator," Dr Rogers says.
Erin confirms that's what happened.
Erin has previously said Simon confronted her and asked her if she'd used the dehydrator to poison his parents. Simon denies he said that.
In evidence earlier this week, Erin said that after the conversation, "it got me thinking about all the times that I'd used it [the dehydrator]".
"And how I had dried foraged mushrooms in it weeks earlier. And I was starting to think, what if they'd gone in the container with the Chinese mushrooms," Erin said.
Dr Rogers recounts Erin then told the court she became "scared" and started to worry that authorities would think it was "intentional".
Dr Rogers notes that this was days before anyone had died, but Erin didn't tell "a single person" that foraged mushrooms may be in the meal.
"Correct," Erin says.
Instead, on the Wednesday, Erin got up, drove the kids to school then came home.
"Then you got rid of the dehydrator," Dr Rogers says.
Erin confirms that's what happened.
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I'll say again: going on the stand was the worst possible idea. Erin thought she was smarter than everyone - cops, child protection, the health system, now the legal system. We're all seeing how that is working out for her.
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