Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #13 *Arrest*

[Tweet57]

The jurors are more than likely to need counselling after this trial. I hope the Government pays for that to happen. What a horrendous case!

 

[L_B]

Was there any steak in the leftovers taken to be tested?

 

[drsleuth]

4.46pm

The leftovers police found in the bin​

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Prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC, has asked Erin Patterson about the meal leftovers police recovered from a bin at the accused woman’s home in Leongatha.

Rogers puts to Patterson that the food found in the bin was a single individual beef Wellington cut in half. Patterson disputes that.

Patterson: There was the mushroom and pastry from one full one and the mushroom and pastry from a bit that I didn’t eat.

Rogers: And how much did you eat?

Patterson: I think we’ve been over that.

Rogers: I’m asking you again.

Patterson: Somewhere between a third, a quarter or a half. I don’t know.”

Rogers suggested to Patterson that the beef Wellington she had prepared with death cap mushrooms and that she was going to serve her estranged husband, Simon Patterson, was in the bin.

Patterson: I didn’t make that sixth one for Simon.

Rogers: I suggest that you disposed of the leftovers in your rubbish bin sometime after when your guests left the house at 2.45pm on Saturday, July 29, 2023 and before you re-presented at Leongatha Hospital at 9.45am on July 31, 2023.

Patterson: Yes.

Rogers: I suggest you removed the steak from inside the leftovers before you put [the beef Wellington] in the bin.

Patterson: I did do that.

Rogers: The steak was put somewhere else. Where was it put?

Patterson: Into my children’s stomach.

Rogers: I suggest that you certainly did not feed that steak to your children.”

Rogers suggests to Patterson that she helped the police find the leftovers because she had no means of removing them from the bin as she was at Leongatha Hospital.

Patterson: Why wouldn’t I just say there was no leftovers? That seems really convoluted.

Rogers: I suggest you assisted police in directing them to where the leftovers were because if you hadn’t told them where the leftovers were then it would be suspicious.

Patterson: I have no idea about that.”

This exchange concludes the evidence for the day.

Patterson will continue her evidence on Wednesday. Thanks for following our live coverage.

As it happened: Prosecutor suggests accused mushroom cook wanted to appear unwell after beef Wellington lunch - Erin Patterson trial day 29

Accused killer Erin Patterson has spent another full day in witness box during her triple murder trial. She has pleaded not guilty to three charges of murder and one of attempted murder.

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[Old Soul]

Prosecutor Nanette Rogers SC turns to the beef wellington remnants a police officer got from a bin at Patterson’s Leongatha home. Rogers said the leftovers contained a single beef wellington cut in half.

“Disagree,” Patterson says.

“It was the mushrooms and pastry from one full one and the mushroom and pastry from the bit that I didn’t eat.”

There is photographic and video evidence of the bin leftovers, the jury has already been shown it.

 

[drsleuth]

16:26

Patterson accused of helping police to avoid looking 'suspicious'​

Dr Rogers suggested Patterson (whose legal team is pictured) assisted police in finding the leftovers because if she hadn't told cops it would be 'suspicious'.
'Agree or disagree?' Dr Rogers asked.
'I wouldn't agree,' Patterson said.
Dr Rogers suggested because Patterson was stuck at hospital, she had no choice but to tell police where the leftovers were as she couldn't 'do anything' with it herself.
The trial has concluded for today and Daily Mail Australia's live coverage of the case will resume at 8am local time on Wednesday, June 11.

Erin Patterson mushroom murder trial LIVE updates

Follow Daily Mail Australia's live coverage of accused mushroom chef Erin Patterson's murder trial here.

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[Shortfusepsb]

Was there any steak in the leftovers taken to be tested?

Is it suggested that she cut open the "Simon" BW, removed the steak, removed the steak from her own half BW, and then disposed of that meat somewhere along her drives, in order to "prove" the kids ate BW steak leftovers?

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Mighty scary.

Kathy Bates kind of scary

 

[katydid23]

Key Event
1m ago
Doctor's comments on risk to children 'bizarre' to Erin

By Joseph Dunstan

The prosecutor then moves to evidence given by doctor Chris Webster, who told the court he'd warned Erin her children's lives were at risk and they must come to hospital.

She agrees he told her that her children could be "scared and alive, or dead" when she expressed reluctance about bringing them into hospital.

"He made it clear that he thought they might be at risk," she says.

Dr Rogers says in the face of that, she was "reluctant" to tell the children.

Ms Patterson says the doctor's comment struck her as "bizarre" and he was "yelling" at her at the time.

I can easily see why Dr Webster would be 'yelling' at her by that time. He is seeing her lunch guests quickly going downhill, getting worse by the hour.

And EP is acting nonchalant, showing no urgency, even about her children. If she told him she couldn't bring them in because her daughter had a ballet lesson I'd be yelling at her too.

EP was the one acting bizarre, not the doctors and nurses. They were just frustrated and worried about the children, IMO.

Can you imagine telling a woman that her young children's lives were at risk from a deadly poison they had eaten, and the mum shrugs and says " I don't want to bring them in, I don't want to alarm them."

Although she adds she's since discovered that was the doctor's "inside voice" (Dr Webster previously commented in his evidence that he had a "loud voice" that could be easily heard).

 

[JBowie]

"The Enrich clinic does not offer gastric-bypass surgery or gastric-sleeve surgery. Agree or disagree?" Dr Rogers asks Erin.

Perhaps EP was mistaken (as she often is, apparently) and thought that clinic offered BS-Bypass Surgery, which she badly requires.

 

[Old Soul]

Was there any steak in the leftovers taken to be tested?

I don’t know, I was looking for answers about that yesterday.
I do know that the court has seen visual footage of the bin leftovers earlier in the trial though. Also the police, doctors and toxicologists would have seen the bin leftovers.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

I genuinely think the only way Erin could save herself (at least temporarily) from this dumpster fire of a cross-examination performance would be if she fake-fainted on the witness stand

She could try the Ric Blum method of having an awful stutter.

 

[MsMarple]

oh I think a 'crazy tea set' can be charming. There was a 'crazy tea set cafe' I went to a few times when I was younger. But I don't get the sense there was anything deliberate or collectable about Erin's plate situation.

Australians use paper plates for picnics, barbeques, sausage sizzles etc. Not at home unless desperate, like you've dirtied all your plates and have run out of dish liquid/tabs and can't go to the shops until tomorrow kind of situation. Definitely not a regular thing as Americans do.

Even crazier, Erin testified that she had 2 white plates, 2 black plates, 1 black and red plate and a plate her daughter made in kindergarten. And that she owned no other plates.

So her son was “mistaken” about 4 white plates, Ian was mistaken about 4 grey plates and Heather told Simon about Erin’s plate being different from the other plates, also allegedly mistaken.

How do any of those people call 2 black plates any other color? It’s a mystery.

 

[JBowie]

"It depends what you mean by an interest," Patterson responded.

She's made a few smart-a*** comments like that today. Methinks that Rogers SC is playing her like a fiddle for the sake of the jury.

 

[JBowie]

Even crazier, Erin testified that she had 2 white plates, 2 black plates, 1 black and red plate and a plate her daughter made in kindergarten. And that she owned no other plates.

Amazing how her memory for detail suddenly returns when it suits her.

 

[drsleuth]

Erin Patterson accused of lying about plates, vomiting

Accused killer Erin Patterson lied about throwing up remains from toxic lunch and serving herself on a different plate, a prosecutor alleges.

www.thenewdaily.com.au

Rogers asked Patterson about evidence that Heather Wilkinson said she noticed Patterson had served herself the food on a “coloured plate which was different from the rest”.

“I didn’t serve myself at all,” she said, before adding she wanted to “clarify” she did not own any matching sets of plates.

“Somebody would’ve had different plates and I don’t have four plates the same,” Patterson said.

Rogers suggested her “whole story is untrue” about plating the food, to which Patterson replied: “You’re wrong”.

 

[Jake18]

Oooh this is intriguing.

Is Dr Roger’s suggesting here that the meat was the tainted part of the meal? Did she marinate the meat in DC powder perhaps and not put the death caps in the duxelle?

No, I think she’s just saying that the meat that had had the mushrooms on it would have had the toxins seep into it. So there is no way she solid have fed it to her children

 

[MsMarple]

3m ago17.00 AEST
Here’s a recap of what the jury heard on day 29 of Erin Patterson’s trial:

1. Under cross-examination, Patterson denied she was thinking of ways to cover her tracks after she discharged herself from Leongatha hospital against medical advice two days after the lunch.

2. Patterson disputed evidence by IanWilkinson, the sole lunch guest survivor, that she served the beef wellingtons for her guests on large grey plates and her own on a smaller orangey-tan coloured plate. Patterson said there was “no smaller plate”.

3. Patterson denied she made a sixth poisoned beef wellington for her estranged husband, Simon, in case he attended the lunch.

4. Patterson rejected the evidence of multiple witnesses including medical staff. This included disputing evidence by Leongtha hospital nurse Cindy Munro that Patterson said she did not want her children involved when staff said they needed to undergo medical testing.

5. Patterson recalled feeling “anxious” when medical staff at Leongatha hospital raised the possibility of death cap mushroom poisoning on 31 July 2023 - two days after the lunch. “I was anxious at the idea that we may have eaten those things [death caps],” she said.

We’ll be back for more coverage at 10.30am tomorrow. Thanks for following along.

 

[JBowie]

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[Corina]

She could try the Ric Blum method of having an awful stutter.

Who is that?

 

[Sarahlou]

I'm starting to think they just kind of let her do her thing. She may be so disagreeable, obstinate and difficult that they just gave her the best advice they could and just let her roll...

If I was on the defence I'd want to throw in the towel
She sounds a nightmare to deal with. I get irritated just reading the nonsense she spews, can't imagine having to actually be around her.