GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

[Salah11]

I do wonder if she was shocked at her guilty verdict. I hope she was devastated because she deserves to be.

I believe she was definitely shocked hence her mates putting up a plastic privacy screen at her home for her as they thought she would escape justice.

IMO

 

[Bekind89]

I believe she was definitely shocked hence her mates putting up a plastic privacy screen at her home for her as they thought she would escape justice.

IMO

How do you think this spoiled, entitled woman who is a control freak will adapt to being told what to do and when to do it?
Honestly I pity all who will be forced to be around her.

I believe she was definitely shocked hence her mates putting up a plastic privacy screen at her home for her as they thought she would escape justice.

IMO

My apologies for being petty but them putting up that privacy screen makes me smile.

 

[MaxDecimus13]

“My truth” is nothing more than an opinion and attaching the word “truth” is an attempt to give an opinion more weight than it deserves. If you have an opinion, fine. Present it and it’s merits can be debated, but don’t call it truth.

As for Erin, I agree with guilty and premeditated. The searches for info on deathcaps, and getting rid of the dehydrator at the very least. If it was an accident, why get rid of the dehydrator? If someone thought there could be a problem with the dehydrator itself it should be investigated, reported, and the model recalled if necessary so it doesn’t happen again.

This is essentially what I was saying. He never used the phrase 'my truth'. Whenever I think of this phrase I think of vacuous American youth, for whom 'my truth' is actually opposite to the actual truth.

It has nothing to do with somebody giving their opinion as they see it, regardless of how much we disagree with it.

 

[Cedars]

How do you think this spoiled, entitled woman who is a control freak will adapt to being told what to do and when to do it?
Honestly I pity all who will be forced to be around her.

My apologies for being petty but them putting up that privacy screen makes me smile.

I think in prison most people are as bad or even worse than she is...that's why they're in prison.

 

[Salah11]

How do you think this spoiled, entitled woman who is a control freak will adapt to being told what to do and when to do it?
Honestly I pity all who will be forced to be around her.

My apologies for being petty but them putting up that privacy screen makes me smile.

I think she is manipulative and will get people on side unfortunately.

 

[Way2Invested]

Obviously, I cannot comment on that and will bow to your experience.

However, I couldn't help but pick up on your use of the phrase 'outside the realm of possibility'. Essentially, this is something that can be applied to a number of different individual things in the case, however it is the sheer weight of things that aren't 'outside the realm of possibility' that means her guilt cannot really be doubted.

It isn't outside the realm that she was the only one not to get seriously ill
It isn't outside the realm that she had gastro but wore white pants
It isn't outside the realm that she decided to use individual Beef Wellingtons
It isn't outside the realm that she foraged despite never telling people she had
It isn't outside the realm that she accidentally picked the wrong mushroom
It isn't outside the realm that she had a bad relationship with hospitals
It isn't outside the realm that she was bulimic
It isn't outside the realm that she threw up the meal but didn't tell anybody at the time

And so on and so on.

The cumulative effect being that all of a sudden it does become outside the realm of possibility.

Oh absolutely. I have no doubt of her guilt and was so relieved when it was recognised by the jury (after watching the legal wranglings and sheer volume of evidence that was excluded I don't have much faith in a jury determining actual guilt/innocence but hope in most cases they are able to come to a verdict that reflects the reality of the situation).

I was just clarifying that for a mum in a good mental space, to abandon her child and husband like that is unthinkable and might suggest she's an uncaring monster but throw PND into the mix and it makes so much more sense.

 

[Bekind89]

I think she is manipulative and will get people on side unfortunately.

Yes, I believe you are right. People such as EP are like chameleons, they adapt and seemingly thrive in any environment.

 

[drsleuth]

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/courts-law/you-crazy-bch-doctor-reveals-moment-he-knew-erin-patterson-poisoned-her-victims/news-story/1fd287fa93ee9c8887f42d28582bbe7f

Erin Patterson reportedly threw a party the night before she was arrested — her final taste of freedom before being locked up.
The Daily Mail reports that on the evening of Wednesday, November 1, 2023, Patterson held a knees-up at her Leongatha, rural Victoria, property for a group of friends, believed to be her four closest female mates.

Her closest ally, social worker Alison Rose Prior, and other members of her then-dwindling inner circle were in attendance, according to the report.

The party is understood to have included Patterson’s two children, a girl and a boy. It was all noticed by neighbours, who speculated Patterson threw the party in the knowledge that charges were imminent.

 

[drsleuth]

The remarkably unremarkable life of Erin Patterson

Erin Patterson is a self-confessed liar, a devoted mother and a convicted triple killer.

www.smh.com.au

The remarkably unremarkable life of Erin Patterson​

 

[otto]

Yes, I believe you are right. People such as EP are like chameleons, they adapt and seemingly thrive in any environment.

She sounds like a chameleon according to her husband - one person in public, another in private, tricky to live with, communication was tricky, tricky personality, knows how to appear to enjoy interaction.

"Yet by 2015, the couple had decided to separate.

Explaining the events that led to their split, Simon said that Erin had struggled with her mental health, especially after the birth of their children. This had left her unable to hold down employment or complete university studies and, he claimed, made her tricky to live with.

‘It was strained, there was tension in it’ he said, of their relationship, saying that Erin found communication tricky.

At one point, during the pre-trial hearing, [her husband] went so far as to suggest that she is on the autism spectrum, describing her empathetic behaviour in public as different to the trickier personality she adopted in private.

‘I think Erin is very good at relating to people,’ was how he put it. ‘She’s learnt how to do that the way a high-functioning Asperger’s does, so the way she presents is high functioning… She knows how to appear to be enjoying interaction.’

The shocking secret about mushroom killer Erin Patterson

In the end, Erin Trudi Patterson's fate was sealed by her lies. She lied about deliberately picking death cap mushrooms. She lied about buying and using a Sunbeam food dehydrator...

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SouthAussie]

At one point, during the pre-trial hearing, [her husband] went so far as to suggest that she is on the autism spectrum, describing her empathetic behaviour in public as different to the trickier personality she adopted in private.

‘I think Erin is very good at relating to people,’ was how he put it. ‘She’s learnt how to do that the way a high-functioning Asperger’s does, so the way she presents is high functioning… She knows how to appear to be enjoying interaction.’

Narcissists do this also. In public they mirror what they know other people do and say, but they don't have any actual empathy. They are not wired that way. The subject soon gets back to being about themselves.

It is only in private, as Simon would have seen, that the narcissist reveals their true self.

imo

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/courts-law/you-crazy-bch-doctor-reveals-moment-he-knew-erin-patterson-poisoned-her-victims/news-story/1fd287fa93ee9c8887f42d28582bbe7f

Erin Patterson reportedly threw a party the night before she was arrested — her final taste of freedom before being locked up.
The Daily Mail reports that on the evening of Wednesday, November 1, 2023, Patterson held a knees-up at her Leongatha, rural Victoria, property for a group of friends, believed to be her four closest female mates.

Her closest ally, social worker Alison Rose Prior, and other members of her then-dwindling inner circle were in attendance, according to the report.

The party is understood to have included Patterson’s two children, a girl and a boy. It was all noticed by neighbours, who speculated Patterson threw the party in the knowledge that charges were imminent.

Here's the DM article. WS gets a mention.

Mushroom killer's Erin Patterson's last party before her arrest

It was a killer's final party the night before Erin Patterson 's arrest as the then so-called 'mushroom cook' tasted her last moments of freedom for what now may prove to be forever.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Erin Patterson's dance with the truth was well underway, Gippsland was crawling with homicide detectives and speculation on crime talk forums like Mumsnet and Websleuths swung between theories that she was completely innocent to being as evil as one of the witches from Shakespeare's Macbeth.

 

[Bekind89]

She sounds like a chameleon according to her husband - one person in public, another in private, tricky to live with, communication was tricky, tricky personality, knows how to appear to enjoy interaction.

"Yet by 2015, the couple had decided to separate.

Explaining the events that led to their split, Simon said that Erin had struggled with her mental health, especially after the birth of their children. This had left her unable to hold down employment or complete university studies and, he claimed, made her tricky to live with.

‘It was strained, there was tension in it’ he said, of their relationship, saying that Erin found communication tricky.

At one point, during the pre-trial hearing, [her husband] went so far as to suggest that she is on the autism spectrum, describing her empathetic behaviour in public as different to the trickier personality she adopted in private.

‘I think Erin is very good at relating to people,’ was how he put it. ‘She’s learnt how to do that the way a high-functioning Asperger’s does, so the way she presents is high functioning… She knows how to appear to be enjoying interaction.’

The shocking secret about mushroom killer Erin Patterson

In the end, Erin Trudi Patterson's fate was sealed by her lies. She lied about deliberately picking death cap mushrooms. She lied about buying and using a Sunbeam food dehydrator...

www.dailymail.co.uk

Thank you posting this, I hadn't read this. I do wonder what he means by " tricky." She obviously has no empathy for others for if she did she wouldn't have been capable of inflicting such horrific deaths on people who never did her harm.
I picture him having to constantly walk through land mines with Erin, trying desperately to never disagree or anger her. I lived with someone like that and let me tell you, it was utter hell.

 

[drsleuth]

Hobbies, heckles and love letters: How Erin Patterson’s life is unfolding behind bars

The mushroom triple-killer has never been known to be violent in prison. But one thing has peeved those behind bars with her.

www.theage.com.au

Hobbies, heckles and love letters: How Erin Patterson’s life is unfolding behind bars​

The triple-murderer was stony-faced when the jury read their verdict out. In prison, her demeanour changed.

By Chris Vedelago

July 11, 2025

She doesn’t curse or spit at the guards or bash anyone. But she has put inmates and guards off with her constant complaints, which are often taken as showing her complete lack of awareness of where she is.

“Her cell is too hot or too cold: ‘What are you going to do about it?’ she’d say. It was complaint after complaint after complaint,” says a guard who formerly worked in her unit.

“It’s not a hotel; it’s a prison. Yes, she wasn’t convicted yet. But it’s still a prison. It’s not meant to be customised for your comfort.”

snip

Only one of these online mates would turn up in person – except as witnesses for the prosecution – to stand with Patterson during the trial: Alison Prior. They met for the first time after charges were laid, and Prior would be granted permission to approach Patterson in the dock to speak to her.

Patterson had been in a maximum security unit for her safety since she was remanded in November 2023 but was moved into the special protection unit last year.

For almost 24 hours a day, she would be left staring at four walls – and her brief of evidence – cut off from almost all human contact except for her guards.

 

[Bekind89]

Hobbies, heckles and love letters: How Erin Patterson’s life is unfolding behind bars

The mushroom triple-killer has never been known to be violent in prison. But one thing has peeved those behind bars with her.

www.theage.com.au

Hobbies, heckles and love letters: How Erin Patterson’s life is unfolding behind bars​

The triple-murderer was stony-faced when the jury read their verdict out. In prison, her demeanour changed.

By Chris Vedelago

July 11, 2025

She doesn’t curse or spit at the guards or bash anyone. But she has put inmates and guards off with her constant complaints, which are often taken as showing her complete lack of awareness of where she is.

“Her cell is too hot or too cold: ‘What are you going to do about it?’ she’d say. It was complaint after complaint after complaint,” says a guard who formerly worked in her unit.

“It’s not a hotel; it’s a prison. Yes, she wasn’t convicted yet. But it’s still a prison. It’s not meant to be customised for your comfort.”

snip

Only one of these online mates would turn up in person – except as witnesses for the prosecution – to stand with Patterson during the trial: Alison Prior. They met for the first time after charges were laid, and Prior would be granted permission to approach Patterson in the dock to speak to her.

Patterson had been in a maximum security unit for her safety since she was remanded in November 2023 but was moved into the special protection unit last year.

For almost 24 hours a day, she would be left staring at four walls – and her brief of evidence – cut off from almost all human contact except for her guards.

Does anyone else predict a a soon to be released tell all book from Ms. Alison Prior? I do.

 

[SilentHill]

They met for the first time after charges were laid

Oh wow! I'm curious as to how long they were online friends for prior to this. Hasn't she trusted her to be her POA too?

 

[Monstradamus]

Does anyone else predict a a soon to be released tell all book from Ms. Alison Prior? I do.

No, but I believe one of her ex FB friends has a book being released, imo.

 

[Two SCents]

That was the case in my mind when I made my example. (Barbara lived a block away from me and she was so lovely. People in our neighborhood are still angry there was a plea deal.) I agree with your point, and I used that example in a response to the post below.

mmatk said:
I'm aware there isn't a legal requirement to prove motive. However, in a case entirely revolving around intent, with very little direct evidence, motive is very important. Or to put it another way, the lack of motive is very good evidence of lack of intent.

a) mmatk is speaking on a case where the perpetrator had a relationship with the victims for over 15 years and they were the grandparents of her children. Her estranged husband testified she 'seemed to love them'.

b) In the example provided the perpetrator and the victim were strangers and it 'appears' the perpetrator acted on impulse?

In case a) it is reasonable to think there would have been a motive to 'intentionally' kill. The crown don't have to prove it but in deciding if the murders were intentional it must come into reasoning at some point imo

Motive is probably something specific to each case and set of circumstances?

 

[Lisa4]

A 6 minute summary of the case.

When I first saw her performance when questioned as she got out of her red MG at her house, I said aloud "Guilty as hell!". Seeing it again here makes me really wonder how anyone could think otherwise.

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At the time, I wasnt keeping up closely with the news. So it was her statement that I saw first- before the carport video.

The first line was - "I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed". On reading that, I remember thinking, What??? Your three relatives have just died and all you can say is you are stressed and overwhelmed ?

It only rang true to me as follows - "I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed by [being suspected of] the deaths of my loved ones," Ms Patterson said.

The entire statement was too full of "poor Erin" and I couldn't buy it.

 

[Eloise]

Hobbies, heckles and love letters: How Erin Patterson’s life is unfolding behind bars

The mushroom triple-killer has never been known to be violent in prison. But one thing has peeved those behind bars with her.

www.theage.com.au

Hobbies, heckles and love letters: How Erin Patterson’s life is unfolding behind bars​

The triple-murderer was stony-faced when the jury read their verdict out. In prison, her demeanour changed.

By Chris Vedelago

July 11, 2025

She doesn’t curse or spit at the guards or bash anyone. But she has put inmates and guards off with her constant complaints, which are often taken as showing her complete lack of awareness of where she is.

“Her cell is too hot or too cold: ‘What are you going to do about it?’ she’d say. It was complaint after complaint after complaint,” says a guard who formerly worked in her unit.

“It’s not a hotel; it’s a prison. Yes, she wasn’t convicted yet. But it’s still a prison. It’s not meant to be customised for your comfort.”

snip

Only one of these online mates would turn up in person – except as witnesses for the prosecution – to stand with Patterson during the trial: Alison Prior. They met for the first time after charges were laid, and Prior would be granted permission to approach Patterson in the dock to speak to her.

Patterson had been in a maximum security unit for her safety since she was remanded in November 2023 but was moved into the special protection unit last year.

For almost 24 hours a day, she would be left staring at four walls – and her brief of evidence – cut off from almost all human contact except for her guards.

the way the fellow prisoners have been heckling her about the mushrooms definitely makes me think she's generally disliked and won't be popular. Her personality isn't one that's going to take that well. I think its more evidence to the idea that all the stories from prisoners coming out about her are them taking the piss.

As for the doctor, the fact he revealed info about her from before the mushroom incident feels like crossing a line to me. Its one thing to express your heartfelt emotional upset by her actions leading to 3 deaths, its another thing to just blab people's personal health info from years before. Doesn't matter that its her, is he going to do it next time someone else annoys him? Its not a good look for a health professional. I don't think its a deregistering level of trangression, but imho (and I'm not AHPRA, I know its not up to me) he should be censured. Maybe advised to never speak to the media again lol (I'm talking about his appearance on The Mushroom Trial: Say Grace)