GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

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Her police interview. She lies so easily.


At 2.20 on this video, the Detective states to Erin “you had an opportunity to speak to a solicitor” and Erin agreed.

She hadn't even spoken to a solicitor prior to the police interview WOW, she really did think she was smarter than all of them..



“Patterson confirmed that she had spoken to a solicitor before the interview and was happy to proceed.”


 
  • #1,542
At 2.20 on this video, the Detective states to Erin “you had an opportunity to speak to a solicitor” and Erin agreed.





“Patterson confirmed that she had spoken to a solicitor before the interview and was happy to proceed.”


I hope a transcript is available, as I can hardly make out anything that she said in the whole interview.
 
  • #1,543
I hope a transcript is available, as I can hardly make out anything that she said in the whole interview.

Turn on closed captions (CC) here:

 
  • #1,544
It would be interesting to know what poisons she used on poor Simon.
The Age article today reports that "the prosecution revealed they'd also discovered an article on barium carbonate - also known as rat poison - which was accessed on one of Erin's Patterson's electronic devices about the time of her estranged husband's third hospital admission.... They said a medical expert could provide evidence that Simon Patterson's sudden onset of illness at that time was consistent with barium carbonate poisoning."
 
  • #1,545
Poor Simon. It must take a lot to come to the conclusion your on again, off again wife is trying to kill you. I'm sure Erin would be the type to gas light him, not that he would have brought it up to her, but in general life. So he likely starts to doubt his thoughts - it is a lot to accept. He eventually has enough confidence/evidence to bring it up to his father or the bible study mate/specialist (not sure which one came first) and they essentially shut him down. He soldiers on, bringing it up to a second party (the father or the specialist) and gets much the same response. Both of them gave wrong advice in my opinion. If only one of them had urged him to go to police, things may have turned out differently. Obviously both of them would have done something different had they known the eventual outcome. It's a lot to live with for Simon, even though he could not have known she had other intended victims.
 
  • #1,546
If only one of them had urged him to go to police, things may have turned out differently [bbm]

Yep, as long as the local police took him seriously at the time, as hopefully would have been the case.
 
  • #1,547
Loved seeing her fast blinking and squirming with this...



"Do you preserve foods or anything like that?"

"No"

"Have you ever dehydrated food or anything like that?"

"No"

later...

"you were at home and present when we did a search warrant today. ... I just want to go through on tape some of the stuff ... instruction manual for Sunbeam food layer electronic dehydrator, um what's that in relation to? Do you know anything about a dehydrator in your house?"

"No"

"Okay, do you own a dehydrator?"

"No. I've got manuals for lots of stuff I've collected over the years. I've had all sorts of appliances and I just keep them all."

"Okay. When did you own a dehydrator?"

"I don't know, I might have had one years ago."

"Okay, what did you use that for?"

"Like when I first got the Thermomix I got really excited about, like, making everything from scratch, you know, and I did a lot of, um, you know, like everything from scratch ingredients, and I did a lot of that, sorry, I could have had something like that, back then."

 
  • #1,548
Well, his father Don must have taken him reasonably seriously, as didn't he take some of his own vomit with him to hospital?
 
  • #1,549
Well, his father Don must have taken him reasonably seriously, as didn't he take some of his own vomit with him to hospital?
According to this article in The Age, Don seems - tragically- to have become suspicious only after the lunch.

Anna is Simon’s sister, and she was anxious about her parents eating with Erin:

‘Even as late as the day of the fateful lunch, Don was convinced that Erin was being maligned. Anna called her parents the afternoon after they returned home, and her mother had said the lunch “went well”.
“Mum says Dad had told her to stop catastrophising things,” Anna told the court.’
 
  • #1,550
What I can't understand is the need to pay bucket loads of money to be represented by a reputed hot shot lawyer and all they can do for you is get life with parole, instead of life without parole and at this stage that may not happen - all with no chance of a successful appeal. EP could have achieved the same result by defending herself and left the money to her kids imo.
 
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What I can't understand is the need to pay bucket loads of money to be represented by a reputed hot shot lawyer and all they can do for you is get life with parole, instead of life without parole and at this stage that may not happen - all with no chance of a successful appeal. EP could have achieved the same result by defending herself and left the money to her kids imo.
She is so deranged she thought she'd get off. IMO
 
  • #1,552
Loved seeing her fast blinking and squirming with this...



"Do you preserve foods or anything like that?"

"No"

"Have you ever dehydrated food or anything like that?"

"No"

later...

"you were at home and present when we did a search warrant today. ... I just want to go through on tape some of the stuff ... instruction manual for Sunbeam food layer electronic dehydrator, um what's that in relation to? Do you know anything about a dehydrator in your house?"

"No"

"Okay, do you own a dehydrator?"

"No. I've got manuals for lots of stuff I've collected over the years. I've had all sorts of appliances and I just keep them all."

"Okay. When did you own a dehydrator?"

"I don't know, I might have had one years ago."

"Okay, what did you use that for?"

"Like when I first got the Thermomix I got really excited about, like, making everything from scratch, you know, and I did a lot of, um, you know, like everything from scratch ingredients, and I did a lot of that, sorry, I could have had something like that, back then."

Cold. Calculating.
Killer
 
  • #1,553
Yep, as long as the local police took him seriously at the time, as hopefully would have been the case.
By that time, he'd been quite ill on several occasions, with hospital records to prove it, and had started keeping a spreadsheet to track his concerns. He could also have taken either the pasta or the cookies to the police for testing too. Hospital records showed how ill he was, without a known cause, and an investigation into those foods could have shown products that explained his earlier illness'.
Well, his father Don must have taken him reasonably seriously, as didn't he take some of his own vomit with him to hospital?
Only in retrospect, when he was quite ill after the lunch, when his wife was also in the same state. He may also have known at that point that the other couple were ill too.
 
  • #1,554
Simon Patterson testified at a pretrial hearing that he had declined the lunch invitation out of fear.

“I thought there’d be a risk that she’d poison me if I attended,” the husband told the court months before the trial in testimony that was not presented to jurors.

Simon said while he had stopped eating food prepared by his wife, from whom he had been estranged since 2015, he never thought others would be at risk.

The court on Friday also released video of Erin Patterson’s police interview, recorded a week after the fatal lunch.

In the interview, Detective Stephen Eppingstall told her that both her female victims were dead and their husbands were critically ill. Eppingstall asked her why she had invited them to lunch.

Erin Patterson replied that she wanted to maintain her relationship with the estranged husband’s parents because her own parents had died.

Don and Gail Patterson had remained supportive and had been the only grandparents to her two children, she said.

“I love them a lot. They’ve always been really good to me and they always said to me that they would support me with love and emotional support, even though Simon and I were separated, and I really appreciated that,” Erin Patterson said.


 
  • #1,555
One of the friends, Daniela Barkley, who said she was working on a book about the case called What Tore Us Apart, said she also had a “vivid” recollection of Patterson being upset that Simon bought her a shovel for her birthday in 2022.

A shovel?

 
  • #1,556
The shovel would have come in handy while she was on the stand as she kept digging in further and further.

But seriously, what a maniac. The interview clearly shows how cruel and calculated she was, no remorse whatsoever for her actions. Lock her up for life without parole, I think
 
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Defence lawyer Colin Mandy argued that reporting of the suppressed evidence, as well as references to it in books, podcasts and a planned television mini-series, would “leave an indelible impression on the minds of potential jurors in the event that there is a retrial”.

A hearing will begin on August 25 to determine what sentence she will get. She faces a potential life sentence for each of the murders and 25 years for attempted murder.

Prosecutor Jane Warren told the judge on Friday “a lot” of victim impact statements would be presented at that two-day sentencing hearing.

Once Erin Patterson is sentenced, she will have 28 days to lodge an appeal against the sentence, the convictions, or both. Her lawyers say they will appeal against her convictions




On Friday the court ruled in favour of lawyers representing media who sought to overturn the gag order on this information, meaning it could be shared for the first time.

During the trial, text messages read out revealed Patterson found her husband's decision not to come "really disappointing" as she had spent time and money preparing the "special meal".

Mr Patterson told the court he had listed them as financially separated on a tax return, which triggered a series of child support payments that meant he would no longer pay their two children's private school fees directly.

Speaking through tears, Mr Patterson said: "I was sure she was very upset about that." Reverend Wilkinson said he and his wife were surprised by the invitation, telling the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC): "There was no reason given for the lunch, and I remember talking to Heather wondering why the sudden invitation."
 
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  • #1,558
EP could have achieved the same result by defending herself

I'd have loved to see that. As I've opined here before I'm imagining her closing remarks:

(Facing the jury) "As I look at you I don't see much sign of intelligence so listen to me carefully as I spell it all to you in monosyllables ..."
 
  • #1,559

Leongatha doctor Christopher Webster had been on shift on July 30, 2023, for only a matter of minutes before he received his first call claiming two patients, Ian and Heather Wilkinson, were on the way with what could be a case of “deliberate poisoning”.​

On the other end of the call was Simon’s GP, Christopher Ford, who warned his colleague not to treat their cases as common food poisoning.​


And this is why Erin acted impulsively with disposing of evidence after Chris Webster confronted her in the hospital that day. And she knew it. They were onto her from the get-go. Simon with his spreadsheets, and his GP who knew the history.

 
  • #1,560
Lock her up for life without parole, I think

IMO, she deserves one of those American-style verdicts: Life plus 100 years.
 
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