GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

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It is our understanding that sub judice is no longer in effect since the trial is over.
 
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Erin was angry because her husband filed taxes as a separated spouse. Consequently, Erin no longer qualified for "married" tax deductions. She then started harassing her husband's family to coerce him into re-filing and falsely claiming that they were still married and living together. When they told her they were staying out of it, she decided to kill them.

After she swore at them on facebook, and after they knew that she may have poisoned her husband, they accepted an invitation to have lunch with her. They must have thought that, through kindness, she would stop being so angry.

The investigation was started only because her father-in-law brought some of his vomit to hospital and stated that he was probably poisoned.

"In late 2022, Simon told his GP, Dr Chris Ford (‘an old mate from church’) that he feared his wife had been trying to poison him. He also resolved to avoid unnecessary contact with her.

He then listed himself as single on his tax return. This move had significant implications for Erin’s financial affairs, since it stopped her claiming various tax breaks available to married people.

She responded by filing for child support, and the couple began arguing over money and who would pay their children’s school fees and medical bills. Efforts by Erin to persuade Simon's parents Don and Gail to intervene in this falling-out met with no success, and she subsequently fired off a series of hostile messages in a Facebook forum, berating his extended family, saying (among other things) that she was ‘sick of this 🤬🤬🤬🤬’ and ‘f*** em!

In the spring of 2023, Simon began telling family members about his belief that Erin was trying to poison him. He confided initially in his 70-year-old father. But Don asked him not to share the concerns too widely because ‘he felt it could create issues in the way people related with Erin and our family’.
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When all four guests then fell sick, the family immediately suspected foul play.
Indeed, Don was so convinced that Erin had sabotaged the lunch, he turned up at hospital carrying a container filled with his own vomit, saying it ought to be handed to police ‘because he presumed this could be significant evidence because he thought it could be a deliberate poisoning’.

That, we can now reveal, was the context in which the homicide squad first began investigating Erin Patterson."

 
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So from a previous visit, we know that Erin visited the tip a minimum of 6 times in a 10 month period. 2 of these visits were only 2 days apart, so they are likely part of the same tip-run.

Of course, we have since found out today that she made at least one more visit: 30 minutes after the lunch ended. This is another extremely coincidental event. I even looked at the days, because I know that I usually go on the weekend, but in fact Erin usually went in the week.

From the Daily Mail article, it mentioned cardboard (including the dehydrator box) and a binbag. It doesn't seem likely the cardboard was hiding anything so why did she take it? Was it to make it look less conspicuous, did she care so little that she carried on doing errands or is it actually just a coincidence.

And one more thing: do Aussies really have to pay to go to the tip?
 
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I cant’t believe the defence successfully kept that out. I knew she’d dumped the plates.

She’s wearing the white pants again as well 🙄.

Now I’m wondering what she did in that 11min when she dropped her son at Subway?
 
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I cant’t believe the defence successfully kept that out. I knew she’d dumped the plates.

She’s wearing the white pants again as well 🙄.

Now I’m wondering what she did in that 11min when she dropped her son at Subway?

Has that footage been released?
 
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Has that footage been released?
No. I’d like to see it though because the defence argued it wasn’t Erin and her son.

I wonder what else was kept out of the trial?
 
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I cant’t believe the defence successfully kept that out. I knew she’d dumped the plates.
Was it proven how and when she dumped the plates?
She’s wearing the white pants again as well 🙄.

Now I’m wondering what she did in that 11min when she dropped her son at Subway?
Yes, me too.
 
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Was it proven how and when she dumped the plates?

Yes, me too.
No. No proof of plate dumping, just my opinion. I think she would have disposed of the plates, cutlery, container of powdered death caps and whatever she used to blitz them.
 
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No. No proof of plate dumping, just my opinion. I think she would have disposed of the plates, cutlery, container of powdered death caps and whatever she used to blitz them.
The most damning evidence against Erin Patterson can be revealed at last - as we expose CCTV video of what she did just 30 MINUTES after her deadly lunch | Daily Mail Online https://share.google/reYD1aWS2ZU4RsmZc
 
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Why on earth was this evidence not included in the trial?

For those that can't access the link, there is CCTV footage of her at the tip around 3.30pm on the day of the lunch. She dumps a bunch of flattened cardboard into the cardboard bin, then carries a non flattened box over. And apparently also dumps a garbage bag. It's not exactly clear what she disposed of, but the suggestion is that it is the plates etc from the lunch. Whatever it was, she certainly wasn't at home binging on leftover cake.
 
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owlmama

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Why on earth was this evidence not included in the trial?

For those that can't access the link, there is CCTV footage of her at the tip around 3.30pm on the day of the lunch. She dumps a bunch of flattened cardboard into the cardboard bin, then carries a non flattened box over. And apparently also dumps a garbage bag. It's not exactly clear what she disposed of, but the suggestion is that it is the plates etc from the lunch. Whatever it was, she certainly wasn't at home binging on leftover cake.

Considering that Australians have three large bins at home - one for general waste, one for recycling, and one for green waste - Erin used the rubbish dump facilities more than I would have thought was necessary. Especially when you have to pay to dump stuff at the rubbish dump.

And (she said) she had a skip bin delivered annually to get rid of other hard rubbish - like Phone A.

imo
 
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The untold story: How Erin Patterson poisoned her family​

 
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So from a previous visit, we know that Erin visited the tip a minimum of 6 times in a 10 month period. 2 of these visits were only 2 days apart, so they are likely part of the same tip-run.

Of course, we have since found out today that she made at least one more visit: 30 minutes after the lunch ended. This is another extremely coincidental event. I even looked at the days, because I know that I usually go on the weekend, but in fact Erin usually went in the week.

From the Daily Mail article, it mentioned cardboard (including the dehydrator box) and a binbag. It doesn't seem likely the cardboard was hiding anything so why did she take it? Was it to make it look less conspicuous, did she care so little that she carried on doing errands or is it actually just a coincidence.

And one more thing: do Aussies really have to pay to go to the tip?
Yes. It’s based on weight. There is a car scale in and out and you are charged the difference.
 
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Considering that Australians have three large bins at home - one for general waste, one for recycling, and one for green waste - Erin used the rubbish dump facilities more than I would have thought was necessary. Especially when you have to pay to dump stuff at the rubbish dump.

And (she said) she had a skip bin delivered annually to get rid of other hard rubbish - like Phone A.

imo
It depends whether her ‘rural’ area had all the bins and collections. I’ve lived on a similar lot size to Erin in a semi rural area and we had rubbish and collected fortnightly but it’s not the same as city suburbs. We burnt some things during winter bomfires and regularly went to the tip as it was quick and easy.
 
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Yes. It’s based on weight. There is a car scale in and out and you are charged the difference.

I'm not sure if all councils are the same.... as rate payers we receive 3 free tip tickets a year, I'm regional NSW. Without the free tickets it is as you have explained with the weighbridge.
 
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It depends whether her ‘rural’ area had all the bins and collections. I’ve lived on a similar lot size to Erin in a semi rural area and we had rubbish and collected fortnightly but it’s not the same as city suburbs. We burnt some things during winter bomfires and regularly went to the tip as it was quick and easy.

Leongatha has the typical rubbish pick up. General waste every week. Recycling and green waste on alternate weeks.

Their rubbish pickup calendar can be downloaded here.
 
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Yes. It’s based on weight. There is a car scale in and out and you are charged the difference.
Depends on refuge centre. This is case at Homebush tip in NSW. This is not the case at Frankston tip In VIC
 
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