GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

[Goosewhisperer]

I think Erin hid her missing phone from police, they didn't body search her, she managed to be very proficient at switching esims and resetting phones, wasn't here also another missing phone?

 

[jesse]

Know for certain, no; however, I suspect that she didn't know (edit: for sure) until the time of the lunch that he wasn't coming.

I base that on the fact that they found what was purportedly a spare Wellington in the trash (a poisoned one), and you have to prepare it ahead of time, so she'd likely have made his when she made the rest, assuming he'd attend. He only told her just the night before that he didn't plan to come, but then by her response, I still think she believed he'd give in and come.

On top of that, someone else pointed out that photos taken very soon after the lunch showed 6 chairs at the dining table, and that she'd likely have removed one for a formal meal if she had known in advance that one invitee wouldn't be attending.

Not proof positive, but those are the things I've seen elsewhere/speculated regarding this point.

She even said she'd made a 6th one for Simon, right? I agree that she was still hoping he'd show up. She said as much the night before when he told her again that he wasn't coming.

I don't think she knew she'd be caught if Simon didn't come. I don't think she knew the full extent of his suspicions about her.

 

[Detechtive]

I agree, I'm just not willing to give the prosecution any credit for it. It's their job to anticipate the defence's position and adduce evidence to refute it. They failed to do so, that doesn't mean Erin's testimony is any less plausible.

Same thing with the phones. The police clearly messed up and didn't seize Erin's main phone (and let her reset her other phone). Maybe that phone had heaps of incriminating evidence on it, but we'll never know. Just because the police are dumb doesn't mean Erin is guilty.

There was no phone on the windowsill and she hid the phone from police <modsnip: Removed personalizing>

 

[Monstradamus]

I think Erin hid her missing phone from police, they didn't body search her, she managed to be very proficient at switching esims and resetting phones, wasn't here also another missing phone?

Her primary phone wasn't handed over to police. Records show that the sim was taken out whilst the police were searching her house, but that phone and sim have never been located.

 

[Detechtive]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... the inference that Erin’s bullimia must be true because she had a weight loss appointment at Enrich. They should look up who Priscilla Auyeng is at Enrich. Erin had an appointment with an ALLERGIST at Enrich.

“The jury is shown a record of a text message confirming Erin’s appointment at the clinic with Priscilla Auyeung, which she confirms was cancelled on September 11, 2023.”

As an aside, how creepy that while one of her victims was STILL in hospital and three had died, she's making skin care appointments.

 

[Scuffy35]

And perhaps her low potassium levels can be accounted for by mild dehydration, which could have been caused by her coffee consumption. Coffee is a diuretic.

Yes. And her symptoms could be consistent with any number of things, even self inflicted ones.

 

[LadyL]

I would go to him as an ER doc. He had a duty to warn and he did. His feelings are human. I don't fault him for his comments. It was an honest reaction to her behavior.

and he didn't say that to the murderer in the hospital or in court, where it was expected for him to remain professional, which he did

 

[Detechtive]

I haven't been able to determine exactly when she really realised/accepted for certain that he wasn't coming. Anyone know this?

It's my opinion that she STILL thought he was going to attend or pop in until the guests left that day. Or even later. He was dropping their daughter back later in the day, and her guilt laden text the night previous were clearly to force him to come IMO.

 

[Detechtive]

I'm sure they anticipated that she would make up more lies but expecting them to know what bung she will testify to and have evidence to refute it is a bit much. How exactly would you expect them to know she's going to make up a lie about an eating disorder and pretend she threw up two years ago while supposedly sick from deathly toxins that she didn't remember even then that she had foraged herself?

Also impossible to prove a negative - especially a very private eating disorder. How are you supposed to prove she didn't have an eating disorder?!

 

[LadyL]

Same. I would too. That said by this public statement made by the hospital, reading between the lines it sounds like he no longer works there

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1351769033115691&id=100048478220474

bbm

can you tell me what it says after 'we hope that this week's verdict brings them some closure ...' because it doesn't show for me?

 

[Rumination1]

Erin’s commentary about her interactions with Dr Webster whilst she was on the stand suggested, to me, that she despised him - his tone of voice, his lack of finesse in the choice of words he used to communicate about the seriousness of the situation faced by the others - primarily because he is a medical authority who suspected her guilt which carries more clout than the seemingly dotty older family member or jilted ex. So attacking Dr Webster’s personal qualities was really her only means of detracting from his credibility.
And if you have a male professional who does their job competently, what other leg are you going to have to stand on than pull the whole misogyny card? It’s appalling.

As the chef of the meal she was extremely aware and sensitive to a doctor blaming her and went out of her way to minimise her responsibility ( now known to be guilt)
She was guilty and has been found guilty in court but never has she yet in my opinion expressed an opinion akin to remorse or regret for her role in a genuine way.
That is extremely disturbing even if the jury do have it wrong and it was an accident …, btw I believe the verdict is right

 

[LinasK]

and she probably wouldn't have been able to poison his food again so maybe she'd look at sabotaging his car by cutting a brake line or something ...

She did say that she wouldn't be able to host a lunch like that for a very long time... she got that part right.

 

[LinasK]

Know for certain, no; however, I suspect that she didn't know (edit: for sure) until the time of the lunch that he wasn't coming.

I base that on the fact that they found what was purportedly a spare Wellington in the trash (a poisoned one), and you have to prepare it ahead of time, so she'd likely have made his when she made the rest, assuming he'd attend. He only told her just the night before that he didn't plan to come, but then by her response, I still think she believed he'd give in and come.

On top of that, someone else pointed out that photos taken very soon after the lunch showed 6 chairs at the dining table, and that she'd likely have removed one for a formal meal if she had known in advance that one invitee wouldn't be attending.

Not proof positive, but those are the things I've seen elsewhere/speculated regarding this point.

And she still might have thought she could get him to eat it or send it home with him when he dropped the children home.

 

[Eloise]

can you tell me what it says after 'we hope that this week's verdict brings them some closure ...' because it doesn't show for me?

It has also been a challenging time for our health service and our staff. I would like to take this opportunity to thank our staff for their incredible professionalism in the way they handled the emergency at the time and for how they conducted themselves during the trial.
The South Gippsland region is very lucky to have such professional and caring healthcare workers.
We note that this has been a criminal trial, and all current GSHS staff called to give evidence have refrained from commenting outside of the courtroom.
GSHS is proud to be part of the close-knit South Gippsland community, and we hope that we can now move ahead with a positive focus on what is so good about our region."
Louise Sparkes
Chief Executive Officer

 

[ch_13]

Same. I would too. That said by this public statement made by the hospital, reading between the lines it sounds like he no longer works there

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1351769033115691&id=100048478220474

bbm

I don't know all the ins-and-outs of the Australian healthcare system, but it looks like Dr. Webster works for Leongatha Healthcare. He looks quite a bit younger on his staff page profile pic, so I would guess he's worked there quite a while.

About Us

www.leongathahealthcare.com.au

I'm not sure what exactly their relationship is to Leongatha Hospital, but it seems like they are two different institutions.

Gippsland Southern Health Service | Quality Healthcare Across South Gippsland

Gippsland Southern Health Service provides hospital, aged care, and community health services across Leongatha and Korumburra. Explore our facilities, care options, and career opportunities.

www.gshs.com.au

Perhaps the doctor contracted with the hospital as a part-time ER doc, but isn't an employee there.

 

[LadyL]

And she still might have thought she could get him to eat it or send it home with him when he dropped the children home.

I hadn't thought of that
diabolical!

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

Thread is open again.

 

[infodumptruck]

I don't know all the ins-and-outs of the Australian healthcare system, but it looks like Dr. Webster works for Leongatha Healthcare. He looks quite a bit younger on his staff page profile pic, so I would guess he's worked there quite a while.

About Us

www.leongathahealthcare.com.au

I'm not sure what exactly their relationship is to Leongatha Hospital, but it seems like they are two different institutions.

Gippsland Southern Health Service | Quality Healthcare Across South Gippsland

Gippsland Southern Health Service provides hospital, aged care, and community health services across Leongatha and Korumburra. Explore our facilities, care options, and career opportunities.

www.gshs.com.au

Perhaps the doctor contracted with the hospital as a part-time ER doc, but isn't an employee there.

Leongatha’s urgent care is staffed by the local GPs

 

[drsleuth]

I agree, I'm just not willing to give the prosecution any credit for it. It's their job to anticipate the defence's position and adduce evidence to refute it. They failed to do so, that doesn't mean Erin's testimony is any less plausible.

Same thing with the phones. The police clearly messed up and didn't seize Erin's main phone (and let her reset her other phone). Maybe that phone had heaps of incriminating evidence on it, but we'll never know. <modsnip: Blatant generalization re LE >

I suggest that Erin had secreted her main phone on her body. They legally could not search her person IMO

Erin was the last witness. The prosecutor could not call rebuttal witnesses.

IMO Erin could say whatever she liked & she did, knowing the above.

Erin taking the stand was a big mistake as the jury got to see the real Erin IMO