GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

[Ellery84]

Missed it

What did you miss? You said it.

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GUILTY - Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

 

[Jake18]

“I wanted Ian not to have to work, so he could enjoy the day. She was asked, this really stuck with me, Stocky. She was asked, where were your parents that day?

And she said very bluntly, they were in Russia on a train.

And she was questioned again by Colin Mandy about that. I think he, I can't remember if he sort of led the question or if she just responded, but I think he was just sort of asked, what were they doing there?

Just travelling.

Yeah.

And when I heard that, I just thought, oof, you know, you can tell that cut deep with her, but that's all we learned about that. But they were not there. Don and Gail were.

And we've heard at times during this trial that she saw them as her parents. You know, her parents eventually passed away. But I think these were two people that she saw as always being there for her once she married Simon”

From Mushroom Case Daily: Erin Patterson takes the stand, 2 Jun 2025

Erin Patterson takes the stand

Podcast Episode · Mushroom Case Daily · 02/06/2025 · 34m

podcasts.apple.com

This is also a part of Rachael’s journalism that irked me. The “oof, you know, I can tell that cut deep with her” part. Rachael stated quite clearly from the first of the podcasts that she could see a lot of similarities between how Erin was being viewed and the public option of Lindy Chamberlain and she never swayed from that inherent bias, IMO

 

[303gmf]

What did you miss? You said it.

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GUILTY - Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

Misinterpreted

 

[Goosewhisperer]

There could be all kinds of reasons she may not have been breastfeeding. Fed is best. Let's not shame moms.

I didn’t shame anybody.

 

[Goosewhisperer]

Taking off with one child and leaving Simon to drive home with the younger daughter to drive all that way was irresponsible, selfish thoughtless and cruel to Simon and the daughter. Go figure!

The trip was with their eldest child, not both children. No one knows the reason.

 

[Deleted member 367982]

The other thing that is remarkable is that all of her excuses were retrofitted to the evidence. I was looking for one example where she acted in a way that supported her story before information was revealed to her, but I didn't see any.

She claims she thought she had gastro illness but didn't call her more vulnerable lunch guests to warn them that evening, and ask if they were sick too, or call and ask Simon to keep an eye on them. Because she wasn't really sick and being sick wasn't part of her original plan.

She served the same food to her children that she thought may have made her sick. Because Erin being sick wasn't part of her original narrative, if they'd died and not revealed they ate specially prepared portions, and not shared a single large wellington.

She didn't tell anyone about the dried wild mushrooms until she heard they were treating the patients for death cap poisoning. Because she planned to say they were only button mushrooms from Woollies. She hid the dehydrator for the same reason.

She admitted foraging at trial and not before, when she knew the grocer story was not credible and they'd found traces to prove she'd dried the death caps in her own kitchen. There would have been no reason to dry already dried mushrooms from a store.

If she'd got ahead and said one of these things before she found out what police and doctors were doing I might have given her a teeny bit more benefit of the doubt.

MOO

Yes. Excuses is what she was giving and not reasons to explain what had happened. I'm surprised the jury didn't see through those lies and return a guilty verdict earlier. After all the dotting of i's and crossing of t's Justice Beale gave them then it's a wonder they came back at all.
But his efficiency means that there now can never be a successful appeal. All IMO
"The core difference between an excuse and an explanation lies in the intent and the acceptance of responsibility. An explanation seeks to clarify a situation and often involves acknowledging one's role in it, while an excuse aims to deflect blame and avoid responsibility."

 

[Scuffy35]

The trip was with their eldest child, not both children. No one knows the reason.

Because the daughter was not yet born and the son was a baby.

 

[jesse]

The trip was with their eldest child, not both children. No one knows the reason.

Probably because only one was born at the time.

 

[Goosewhisperer]

Probably because only one was born at the time.

Very amusing. No one knows the reason her husband kept the baby with him.

 

[Goosewhisperer]

Because the daughter was not yet born and the son was a baby.

Another comedian.

 

[Suspish]

I missed the original posts from when Dr. Webster appeared (only check in every other day and am easily overwhelmed (thanks ADHD) so had to skip ahead a lot whenever I returned to see there were often 100+ pages to catch up on!) so I googled him after reading the glowing opinions here recently, and am sad to read that he’s not only receiving a lot of hate online after his testimony, but also people going IRL making official complaints about him to his clinic calling him “ableist” and “misogynistic” which may be escalated to the medical board and result in him losing his job

Patterson’s doctor who gave wild evidence could lose his job

The doctor who alerted police to triple-mushroom-murderer Erin Patterson has revealed why he fears he could lose his job.

thenightly.com.au

I also found an interesting article quoting a former colleague at her ATC job 20-odd years ago who paints her as manipulative, unlikeable, arrogant, a very, ahem… tenuous relationship with the truth… so very on-brand for the Erin we’ve become familiar with in the last two years imo

“She was a ritual, habitual and pathological liar, she would just say anything, just to get away with anything… she wasn’t a nice person”

It also sheds more light on her swift unceremonious exit from that job (as was alluded to early on by our verified friend @Detechtive I believe) - sacked after lying about clocking off early- until she was slapped with the CCTV footage catching her red handed doing exactly that!!

“‘Ah, you’ve got me there’, was what she said (in response to the CCTV)”.

Incredulous!

https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...57c595c4ab1fbeed33ebc8a3709b?dicbo=v2-MjtsX7n

***My sincerest apologies if I’m repeating/reposting and any of this is old news- still catching up on the new thread which takes me a while as I’m so loath to skip to the end and miss out on any new info, discussion, insights and opinions from my fab fellow sleuths!**

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I missed the original posts from when Dr. Webster appeared (only check in every other day and am easily overwhelmed (thanks ADHD) so had to skip ahead a lot whenever I returned to see there were often 100+ pages to catch up on!) so I googled him after reading the glowing opinions here recently, and am sad to read that he’s not only receiving a lot of hate online after his testimony, but also people going IRL making official complaints about him to his clinic calling him “ableist” and “misogynistic” which may be escalated to the medical board and result in him losing his job

Patterson’s doctor who gave wild evidence could lose his job

The doctor who alerted police to triple-mushroom-murderer Erin Patterson has revealed why he fears he could lose his job.

thenightly.com.au

I also found an interesting article quoting a former colleague at her ATC job 20-odd years ago who paints her as manipulative, unlikeable, arrogant, a very, ahem… tenuous relationship with the truth… so very on-brand for the Erin we’ve become familiar with in the last two years imo

“She was a ritual, habitual and pathological liar, she would just say anything, just to get away with anything… she wasn’t a nice person”

It also sheds more light on her swift unceremonious exit from that job (as was alluded to early on by our verified friend @Detechtive I believe) - sacked after lying about clocking off early- until she was slapped with the CCTV footage catching her red handed doing exactly that!!

“‘Ah, you’ve got me there’, was what she said (in response to the CCTV)”.

Incredulous!

https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...57c595c4ab1fbeed33ebc8a3709b?dicbo=v2-MjtsX7n

***My sincerest apologies if I’m repeating/reposting and any of this is old news- still catching up on the new thread which takes me a while as I’m so loath to skip to the end and miss out on any new info, discussion, insights and opinions from my fab fellow sleuths!**

I, too, get lost in the pages and pages of info. I join in when I can, probably doubling up on what's already been said too.

I think this doctor is pretty safe to keep his job. Should he have said the nut bag comment? Probably not. As for the rest, he may have worded it a little better, but he's been unable to speak out for 2 years now, so I'm sure he has a lot to get off his chest. He may be reprimanded for speaking quite so freely, but I doubt he will lose his job. As for all the complaints about him, if they were true, he'd be before the board already to explain himself. It all sounds baseless to me. I've yet to hear any “ableist” or “misogynistic” quotes from him. He's allowed to be anti Erin without being anti women, we definitely aren't all like her!

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Complaints, Love Letters & Hecklers: More Details Of Erin Patterson’s Prison Life Emerge​

More details have emerged about Erin Patterson’s life in prison, shortly after she was found guilty on all counts of murder and attempted murder following a now-infamous mushroom lunch back in 2023.

According to a guard, Patterson has gained a reputation for issuing complaint after complaint after complaint about the conditions of the prison, including the temperature.

Apparently it isn’t only the guards who have been put off by Patterson, with SMH reporting that fellow inmates have been somewhat hostile towards her during her time in prison.

Erin was a constant target for heckling and shouts of like ‘Have you got any mushrooms?’ It was pretty regular when she was first there,” the guard said.

On the opposing end, Patterson has apparently found some fans on the outside, with reports claiming she has received “love letters” from true-crime enthusiasts and internet obsessives, some of whom reportedly showed up to some days of the trial.

Complaints, Love Letters & Hecklers: More Details Of Erin Patterson’s Prison Life Emerge

"It’s not a hotel; it’s a prison ... It’s not meant to be customised for your comfort," a guard said.

www.pedestrian.tv

 

[LinasK]

Complaints, Love Letters & Hecklers: More Details Of Erin Patterson’s Prison Life Emerge​

More details have emerged about Erin Patterson’s life in prison, shortly after she was found guilty on all counts of murder and attempted murder following a now-infamous mushroom lunch back in 2023.

According to a guard, Patterson has gained a reputation for issuing complaint after complaint after complaint about the conditions of the prison, including the temperature.

Apparently it isn’t only the guards who have been put off by Patterson, with SMH reporting that fellow inmates have been somewhat hostile towards her during her time in prison.

Erin was a constant target for heckling and shouts of like ‘Have you got any mushrooms?’ It was pretty regular when she was first there,” the guard said.

On the opposing end, Patterson has apparently found some fans on the outside, with reports claiming she has received “love letters” from true-crime enthusiasts and internet obsessives, some of whom reportedly showed up to some days of the trial.


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Complaints, Love Letters & Hecklers: More Details Of Erin Patterson’s Prison Life Emerge

"It’s not a hotel; it’s a prison ... It’s not meant to be customised for your comfort," a guard said.

www.pedestrian.tv

Good to hear that the other inmates see through her and aren't mesmerized by her. Was slightly worried she'd become leader of the pack in prison and have groupies like she did in real life.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Good to hear that the other inmates see through her and aren't mesmerized by her. Was slightly worried she'd become leader of the pack in prison and have groupies like she did in real life.

Prisoners have unwritten rules and hierarchies within the prison population, sometimes related to specific crimes or offenses.

The fact that she has killed elderly people, she will be despised inside

 

[Penny68]

How a recipe of 'ultimate indulgence' became central to a murder plot

Two years ago, Erin Patterson was a mother of two from a regional town who lived a quiet life. Now, the 50-year-old has been found guilty of murdering three people with death cap mushrooms, in a trial that's made global headlines.

www.abc.net.au

Step by step.

 

[JBowie]

The other thing that is remarkable is that all of her excuses were retrofitted to the evidence.

Yep, IMO she's sat in her cell for months working her way through the brief of evidence brainstorming what she thought were alibis and excuses to counter the facts.

 

[Scuffy35]

Very amusing. No one knows the reason her husband kept the baby with him.

Maybe he had no choice if she had just taken off.

 

[Scuffy35]

Another comedian.

I though you did not know the trip was from the very early days of their marriage. I see what you meant now as your post can be interpreted two different ways (the reason for what?).

 

[JBowie]

Patterson has two children - a son born in 2009 and a daughter born in 2014.

Four months after their first child was born, Erin and Simon Patterson packed all their belongings into a 4WD and drove across the northern half of Australia.

What we know about Erin Patterson

She is the woman at the centre of the trial that made headlines around the world, but, for many, the single...

www.9news.com.au

Mushroom cook's husband on rocky marriage, $2m windfall

Four months after their first child was born, Erin and Simon Patterson packed all their belongings into a 4WD and drove across the northern half of Australia.

www.sheppnews.com.au