GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

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  • #981
What’s on Ali-Rose Prior’s phone? Did she have any useful evidence that she didn’t provide to police?

Not saying she’s done anything wrong, but she may know more about Erin than others do. Imo
I dare say the police would have well and truly looked into this
 
  • #982
Yes, but what I find truly bizarre is that she is hailed as being a "super sleuth" for her ability to put two and two together regarding crimes, yet she somehow expected that a group of relatives becoming very ill and dying at around the same time would not lead to questions as to where they had all been together beforehand.
If you think about it.... she was hailed as a "super sleuth" by her online friends.... how many of them were there? From memory it was a handful of people.
 
  • #983
Oh wow! I'm curious as to how long they were online friends for prior to this. Hasn't she trusted her to be her POA too? 😳
I am guessing since about 2018, and met in a FB group after the documentary "Exposed: The Case of Keli Lane" was released.
 
  • #984
Locked up with Patterson for more than a year, the ex-prisoner kept meticulous diary notes. One in particular stands out.

Dated the 27th of July, 2024, the note makes mention of Patterson’s estranged husband Simon and how she really feels about him.

“Erin hates her ex-husband and openly admitted — she has made comments about no matter how long she gets (in prison), she will kill him,” the former inmate said.


https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...d/news-story/f15fb4ce90a7257b779df171ecde1861
 
  • #985
Just throwing this out there for people's thoughts, is it possible she went to take everything she needed to dispose of, including the dehydrator, right after the lunch, not knowing until she got there that she would have to make an advance payment to dispose of that one thing, so she dumped its box and a bag of utensils/plates/cutlery, and had to take the dehydrator back home on that occasion?

I think she didn't dispose of the dehydrator before the lunch in case her plan went awry, say they went moldy or she spilled them, or no one turned up, and she needed to use the machine again.

Then when she had to make a payment she thought about how she could do it without leaving a record, and decided to wipe and ditch her phone IF she was investigated, maybe not thinking that the tip would be investigated by police?
Does anyone know if it's pay by card only at the tip, or can you pay cash, I wonder?
 
  • #986
Does anyone know if it's pay by card only at the tip, or can you pay cash, I wonder?
Hubby has paid cash at a tip in the South Gippsland shire (can't remember whether it was Koonwarra or Mirboo North).
 
  • #987
Locked up with Patterson for more than a year, the ex-prisoner kept meticulous diary notes. One in particular stands out.

Dated the 27th of July, 2024, the note makes mention of Patterson’s estranged husband Simon and how she really feels about him.

“Erin hates her ex-husband and openly admitted — she has made comments about no matter how long she gets (in prison), she will kill him,” the former inmate said.


https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...d/news-story/f15fb4ce90a7257b779df171ecde1861
“She is super intelligent, likes to make people feel like they’re dumb. She is very manipulative. She gets fixated on things and doesn’t see the mistakes that she makes. She mimics and makes fun of people, looks down at people.”



Yep, this is exactly how I remember my dealings with her. Making fun of people was a sport to Erin. Spot on.
 
  • #988
Does anyone know if it's pay by card only at the tip, or can you pay cash, I wonder?
I remember a local saying you can pay cash or use card at the Korumburra tip.

IMO
 
  • #989
Stan was contacting us a year ago. Their documentary has been in the works for a long long time.
They were going to focus on the group dynamics originally, but the main members of the group didn't want to participate. They wanted to force us into exclusivity contracts with them, with some vague outline of what they were going to do and I personally didn't like the direction - to paint online crime sleuths as some weirdo middle aged women with nothing better to do.

I see they have now changed their doco to be something much more 'neutral' - the trial, and commentary on 'justice' - the same boring coverage everyone else has done ad nauseam during this trial.

I don't want to watch any of it, or read anything coming out because it will just be the same regurgitated nonsense. None of them know Erin, or anything about her. IMO
I wondered if you'd have been approached!

Yeah I bet a lot of people actually involved in things try and avoid the media circus about it all. I know from things I've been involved in/known about that the media rarely actually get it totally right. I think the wisest approach is don't get directly involved but also, don't try and stop it once its made or kick up a stink. Otherwise, you risk causing the Streisand effect. The less you say, the less anyone can use the things you say against you
 
  • #990
Just throwing this out there for people's thoughts, is it possible she went to take everything she needed to dispose of, including the dehydrator, right after the lunch, not knowing until she got there that she would have to make an advance payment to dispose of that one thing, so she dumped its box and a bag of utensils/plates/cutlery, and had to take the dehydrator back home on that occasion?

I think she didn't dispose of the dehydrator before the lunch in case her plan went awry, say they went moldy or she spilled them, or no one turned up, and she needed to use the machine again.

Then when she had to make a payment she thought about how she could do it without leaving a record, and decided to wipe and ditch her phone IF she was investigated, maybe not thinking that the tip would be investigated by police?

I don't think that Erin actually wanted to get rid of the dehydrator (at all) until she realised that Death Cap poisoning was suspected by the doctors. She had obviously scrubbed the dehydrator clean, not knowing that she had missed microscopic pieces of evidence on the dehydrator.

I think if it had been in her plan to get rid of the dehydrator she would have thought more about the instruction book she left in a drawer (and she would have disposed of the dehydrator much sooner).

Her plan did not include the doctors realising that Death Caps - from her house - had poisoned the victims.

imo
 
  • #991
don't think that Erin actually wanted to get rid of the dehydrator (at all) until she realised that Death Cap poisoning was suspected by the doctors. She had obviously scrubbed the dehydrator clean, not knowing that she had missed microscopic pieces of evidence on the dehydrator.

I think if it had been in her plan to get rid of the dehydrator she would have thought more about the instruction book she left in a drawer (and she would have disposed of the dehydrator much sooner).
What if she wanted to be caught and to engage in a game of cat and mouse with the police?
 
  • #992
Excellent, one of my favourite podcasts taking about the mushroom trial. What's not to like?

Richard Osman is something of a UK legend and Marina is well Marina.
Listened to this podcast today. Podcasts
Pretty good round up of the case and trial.
Also on YouTube at
 
  • #993
What if she wanted to be caught and to engage in a game of cat and mouse with the police?
I think that kind of dynamic is far more common in fiction than reality. Killers very rarely actually want to be caught.

MOO
 
  • #994
Yeah I can't imagine she wanted to play any games with being caught. She simply never thought she'd be suspected as deliberately poisoning them and therefore had no idea how to cover up her tracks, or think of how to behave like someone who had accidentally poisoned people.
 
  • #995
8th
“She is super intelligent, likes to make people feel like they’re dumb. She is very manipulative. She gets fixated on things and doesn’t see the mistakes that she makes. She mimics and makes fun of people, looks down at them.
So who's the clever one now then?
 
  • #996
"Spitting the dummy" is closely related to "chucking his toys out of the pram" - both sometimes used in relation to a certain Brit/ex-Brit.

Harry?
 
  • #997
Yeah I can't imagine she wanted to play any games with being caught. She simply never thought she'd be suspected as deliberately poisoning them and therefore had no idea how to cover up her tracks, or think of how to behave like someone who had accidentally poisoned people.

because she got away with it so many other times
 
  • #998
Yeah I can't imagine she wanted to play any games with being caught. She simply never thought she'd be suspected as deliberately poisoning them and therefore had no idea how to cover up her tracks, or think of how to behave like someone who had accidentally poisoned people.
Yes, thought she was far too clever to get caught!
 
  • #999
When you share Tik Tok links, if and when we open them it has your profile at the top stating you're the one that shared the link.

You’re essentially doxing yourself.

Then the identities of the people/users who view your Tik Tok links show up for you, so you can see who has viewed your video / link, which essentially doxes us.


IMO

I see the original person who posted it, not who shared it.
 
  • #1,000
What if she wanted to be caught and to engage in a game of cat and mouse with the police?
If so, the cat and mouse game was never going play out as possibly scripted. And, the incident was flagged/suspected as poisoning so quickly. Simon shared with a friend that he suspected tampering with his food. I imagine he shared this with his father as well.
 
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